IRC log of apa on 2021-07-14
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- Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 14 July 2021
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- agenda?
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- Chair: Becky
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- agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
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- agenda+ TPAC Planning https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2021/GroupMeetings
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- agenda+ Task Force Updates
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- agenda+ FAST Progress
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- agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
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- agenda+ Accessibility Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
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- agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
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- agenda+ CSS Update (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
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- agenda+ Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
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- agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
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- agenda+ Other Business
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- agenda+ be done
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- 15:58:43 [Lionel_Wolberger]
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- 15:59:47 [Joshue108]
- present+
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- present+
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- 16:00:50 [paul_grenier]
- present+
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- present+
- 16:00:56 [becky]
- regrets, Gottfried Zimmerman
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- Present+
- 16:03:45 [JF]
- agenda?
- 16:04:30 [janina]
- present+
- 16:04:37 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- present+
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- present+
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- Scribe: Lionel_Wolberger
- 16:05:18 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- agenda?
- 16:05:30 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- zakim, take up next item
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- agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from janina]
- 16:05:59 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- becky: The video on media queries is up.
- 16:06:17 [becky]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/video-examples
- 16:07:14 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- janina: open call for consensus on media hints
- 16:07:22 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 1 closed
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- I see 11 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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- 2. TPAC Planning https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2021/GroupMeetings [from janina]
- 16:07:32 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- zakim, take up next item
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- agendum 2 -- TPAC Planning https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2021/GroupMeetings -- taken up [from janina]
- 16:07:50 [becky]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2021Jul/0004.html for cfc
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- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2020
- 16:09:05 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- becky: Task force leaders and facilitators, make sure you are prioritizing this task preparing for TPAC
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- use this link for 2021
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- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2021
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- present+
- 16:11:38 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- MichaelC: The standard TPAC page is not up yet.
- 16:12:00 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- becky: WebRTC has put up meetings, so we should schedule
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- zakim, take up next item
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- agendum 3 -- Task Force Updates -- taken up [from janina]
- 16:13:16 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- janina: In Research Questions, Jason and Josh are closing on XAUR and should reach CFC soon
- 16:13:40 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ... Synchronization doc is moving towards FPWD target Sept/Oct
- 16:14:28 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ... likely to not find much research on time needed for sign language interpreters, for example
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- paul_grenier: Pronunciation is looking at the feedback, and starting to plan TPAC
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- Lionel_Wolberger: Lisa gave a backgrounder to the new members of Personalization, very helpful on how it originated in ARIA and its aims
- 16:16:44 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ... as we focus on getting to CR and planning TPAC
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- becky: The Lisa backgrounder might be useful to more people, let's consider transcribing it
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- Lionel_Wolberger: We will see the video when it arrives, and advise if it is ready to share as-is.
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- JF: Found an issue with W3C Git
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- Lionel_Wolberger: Lionel_Wolberger asks JF, can you put the precise issue in IRC -- I didn't catch it
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- zakim, take up next item
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- agendum 4 -- FAST Progress -- taken up [from janina]
- 16:20:33 [JF]
- Currently W3C is experiencing issues with publishing 'updates' to https://w3c.github.io - PLH is working on the fix
- 16:20:58 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- Joshue108: Got loads of feedback, waiting to process it
- 16:21:07 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ... will get back when we have digested it
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- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 4 closed
- 16:21:20 [Zakim]
- I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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- 5. New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 [from janina]
- 16:21:23 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- zakim, take up next item
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- agendum 5 -- New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 -- taken up [from janina]
- 16:21:51 [MichaelC]
- https://w3c.github.io/charter-drafts/2021/webauthn-2021.html
- 16:22:28 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- MichaelC: Web Authentication charter.
- 16:23:12 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- becky: Looks good, as we are listed as a group to coordinate with.
- 16:23:19 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- becky: Objections? None.
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- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 5 closed
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- I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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- 6. Accessibility Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review [from janina]
- 16:23:25 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- zakim, take up next item
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- agendum 6 -- Accessibility Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review -- taken up [from janina]
- 16:24:14 [MichaelC]
- https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3315
- 16:25:21 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- MichaelC: CSS Scroll bars can be closed.
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- becky: Looks good, group agrees.
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- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 6 closed
- 16:25:43 [Zakim]
- I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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- 7. new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html [from janina]
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- zakim, take up next item
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- agendum 7 -- new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from janina]
- 16:26:00 [MichaelC]
- https://www.w3.org/TR/i18n-glossary/
- 16:26:27 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- MichaelC: Does APA have input to a glossary?
- 16:26:39 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- janina: Watch for sign languages, symbolic languages,
- 16:26:48 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- MichaelC: Well taken: those are not in it
- 16:27:09 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- becky: The accessibility of the glossary itself needs attention-- no headings
- 16:27:18 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- janina: AAC?
- 16:27:29 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ... the formal for symbolic languages
- 16:27:37 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- becky: I stand corrected: there are headings
- 16:30:15 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- MichaelC: They are not using sections for the alphabetical letter headings, and so the letters do not appear
- 16:30:37 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- MichaelC: If they saw fit to add letters, they should mark them up properly
- 16:31:12 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- becky: It seems, in the spirit of WCAG: they made something easy for sighted users, they may as well make that access available to people relying on a screen reader
- 16:31:12 [MichaelC]
- https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/9
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- https://html.spec.whatwg.org/review-drafts/2021-01/
- 16:33:01 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- NeilS: A mail was sent regarding an update of the agreement
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- action: Lionel_Wolberger to review i18n glossary for APA input
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- Error finding 'Lionel_Wolberger'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/users>.
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- present+
- 16:36:42 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- action: amy_c to review HTML review draft (https://html.spec.whatwg.org/review-drafts/2021-01/)
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- Error finding 'amy_c'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/users>.
- 16:38:22 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- becky: We could look at the living standard
- 16:39:48 [MichaelC]
- https://html.spec.whatwg.org/review-drafts/2021-01/
- 16:40:45 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- MichaelC: The agreement with WHATWG is that they maintain living documents, but W3C can periodically receive a set copy to respond to.
- 16:42:21 [JF]
- zakim, who is here?
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- Present: Joshue, becky, paul_grenier, mike_beganyi, JF, janina, Lionel_Wolberger, NeilS, amy_c, JonnyJames
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- On IRC I see JonnyJames, amy_c, NeilS, JF, mike_beganyi, Lionel_Wolberger, Zakim, RRSAgent, becky, paul_grenier, MichaelC, janina, jasonjgw, manu, trackbot, slightlyoff, Rachael,
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- ... tink, ada, ZoeBijl, Joshue108, jamesn
- 16:42:49 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- action: carny to review HTML review draft (https://html.spec.whatwg.org/review-drafts/2021-01/)
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- Error finding 'carny'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/users>.
- 16:43:13 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- action: lwolberg to review i18n glossary for APA input
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- Created ACTION-2298 - Review i18n glossary for apa input [on Lionel Wolberger - due 2021-07-21].
- 16:43:34 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- action: Carney to review HTML review draft (https://html.spec.whatwg.org/review-drafts/2021-01/)
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- Created ACTION-2299 - Review html review draft (https://html.spec.whatwg.org/review-drafts/2021-01/) [on Amy Carney - due 2021-07-21].
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 8 -- CSS Update (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues -- taken up [from janina]
- 16:44:32 [amy_c]
- https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/3
- 16:44:49 [amy_c]
- https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5710#issuecomment-840772752
- 16:45:04 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- amy_c: CSS color adjust asked for APA perspective on fingerprinting
- 16:45:28 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ... fingerprinting can force exposure of colors
- 16:47:27 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- amy_c: ... propose that APA doesn't have add'l input here
- 16:47:49 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- becky: APA may comment: the group seems to have resolved the issue and APA has nothing further to dad
- 16:49:03 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- s/dad/add
- 16:49:34 [amy_c]
- https://github.com/w3c/a11y-review/issues/79
- 16:49:34 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- becky: APA believes the group has resolved the issues, and APA is satisfied with their conclusion.
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 9 -- Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned -- taken up [from janina]
- 16:52:04 [MichaelC]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Active
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 10 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open -- taken up [from janina]
- 16:55:31 [becky]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2295
- 16:56:06 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- Lionel_Wolberger: 2295 is closed.
- 16:56:23 [becky]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2272
- 16:56:35 [amy_c]
- https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues/42
- 16:58:02 [janina]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/users/my
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/14-apa-minutes.html becky
- 16:59:40 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- amy_c: I can close 2272
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/14-apa-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
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- rrsagent, please part
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- I see 5 open action items saved in https://www.w3.org/2021/07/14-apa-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: Lionel_Wolberger to review i18n glossary for APA input [1]
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- recorded in https://www.w3.org/2021/07/14-apa-irc#T16-35-12
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- ACTION: amy_c to review HTML review draft (https://html.spec.whatwg.org/review-drafts/2021-01/) [2]
- 17:13:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in https://www.w3.org/2021/07/14-apa-irc#T16-36-42
- 17:13:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: carny to review HTML review draft (https://html.spec.whatwg.org/review-drafts/2021-01/) [3]
- 17:13:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in https://www.w3.org/2021/07/14-apa-irc#T16-42-49
- 17:13:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: lwolberg to review i18n glossary for APA input [4]
- 17:13:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in https://www.w3.org/2021/07/14-apa-irc#T16-43-13
- 17:13:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Carney to review HTML review draft (https://html.spec.whatwg.org/review-drafts/2021-01/) [5]
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- recorded in https://www.w3.org/2021/07/14-apa-irc#T16-43-34
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- rrsagent, make log world
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/14-apa-minutes.html MichaelC
- 21:56:31 [MichaelC]
- rrsagent, bye
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- I see no action items