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15:53:32 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
15:53:32 <trackbot> Date: 14 July 2021
15:54:38 <janina> agenda?
15:54:41 <janina> Chair: Becky
15:54:41 <janina> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
15:54:41 <janina> agenda+ TPAC Planning https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2021/GroupMeetings
15:54:41 <janina> agenda+ Task Force Updates
15:54:41 <janina> agenda+ FAST Progress
15:54:44 <janina> agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
15:54:47 <janina> agenda+ Accessibility Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
15:54:50 <janina> agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
15:54:52 <janina> agenda+ CSS Update (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
15:54:55 <janina> agenda+ Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
15:54:58 <janina> agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
15:55:00 <janina> agenda+ Other Business
15:55:03 <janina> agenda+ be done
15:55:05 <janina> 
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16:00:53 <mike_beganyi> present+
16:00:56 <becky> regrets, Gottfried Zimmerman
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16:03:12 <JF> Present+
16:03:45 <JF> agenda?
16:04:30 <janina> present+
16:04:37 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
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16:05:08 <Lionel_Wolberger> Scribe: Lionel_Wolberger
16:05:18 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda?
16:05:30 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, take up next item
16:05:30 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from janina]
16:05:59 <Lionel_Wolberger> becky: The video on media queries is up.
16:06:17 <becky> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/video-examples
16:07:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: open call for consensus on media hints
16:07:22 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, close this item
16:07:22 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
16:07:23 <Zakim> I see 11 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:07:23 <Zakim> 2. TPAC Planning https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2021/GroupMeetings [from janina]
16:07:32 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, take up next item
16:07:32 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- TPAC Planning https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2021/GroupMeetings -- taken up [from janina]
16:07:50 <becky> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2021Jul/0004.html for cfc
16:08:55 <becky> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2020
16:09:05 <Lionel_Wolberger> becky: Task force leaders and facilitators, make sure you are prioritizing this task preparing for TPAC
16:09:34 <becky> use this link for 2021
16:09:36 <becky> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2021
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16:10:59 <amy_c> present+
16:11:38 <Lionel_Wolberger> MichaelC: The standard TPAC page is not up yet.
16:12:00 <Lionel_Wolberger> becky: WebRTC has put up meetings, so we should schedule
16:12:37 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, take up next item
16:12:37 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Task Force Updates -- taken up [from janina]
16:13:16 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: In Research Questions, Jason and Josh are closing on XAUR and should reach CFC soon
16:13:40 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... Synchronization doc is moving towards FPWD target Sept/Oct
16:14:28 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... likely to not find much research on time needed for sign language interpreters, for example
16:14:42 <Lionel_Wolberger> paul_grenier: Pronunciation is looking at the feedback, and starting to plan TPAC
16:16:03 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Lisa gave a backgrounder to the new members of Personalization, very helpful on how it originated in ARIA and its aims
16:16:44 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... as we focus on getting to CR and planning TPAC
16:17:05 <Lionel_Wolberger> becky: The Lisa backgrounder might be useful to more people, let's consider transcribing it
16:18:50 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: We will see the video when it arrives, and advise if it is ready to share as-is.
16:19:12 <Lionel_Wolberger> JF: Found an issue with W3C Git
16:19:33 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Lionel_Wolberger asks JF, can you put the precise issue in IRC -- I didn't catch it
16:20:20 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, take up next item
16:20:20 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- FAST Progress -- taken up [from janina]
16:20:33 <JF> Currently W3C is experiencing issues with publishing 'updates' to https://w3c.github.io - PLH is working on the fix
16:20:58 <Lionel_Wolberger> Joshue108: Got loads of feedback, waiting to process it
16:21:07 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... will get back when we have digested it
16:21:19 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, close this item
16:21:19 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed
16:21:20 <Zakim> I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:21:20 <Zakim> 5. New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 [from janina]
16:21:23 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, take up next item
16:21:23 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 -- taken up [from janina]
16:21:51 <MichaelC> https://w3c.github.io/charter-drafts/2021/webauthn-2021.html
16:22:28 <Lionel_Wolberger> MichaelC: Web Authentication charter.
16:23:12 <Lionel_Wolberger> becky: Looks good, as we are listed as a group to coordinate with.
16:23:19 <Lionel_Wolberger> becky: Objections? None.
16:23:22 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, close this item
16:23:22 <Zakim> agendum 5 closed
16:23:23 <Zakim> I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:23:23 <Zakim> 6. Accessibility Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review [from janina]
16:23:25 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, take up next item
16:23:26 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- Accessibility Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review -- taken up [from janina]
16:24:14 <MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3315
16:25:21 <Lionel_Wolberger> MichaelC: CSS Scroll bars can be closed.
16:25:40 <Lionel_Wolberger> becky: Looks good, group agrees.
16:25:42 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, close this item
16:25:42 <Zakim> agendum 6 closed
16:25:43 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:25:43 <Zakim> 7. new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html [from janina]
16:25:44 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, take up next item
16:25:44 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from janina]
16:26:00 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/TR/i18n-glossary/
16:26:27 <Lionel_Wolberger> MichaelC: Does APA have input to a glossary?
16:26:39 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Watch for sign languages, symbolic languages,
16:26:48 <Lionel_Wolberger> MichaelC: Well taken: those are not in it
16:27:09 <Lionel_Wolberger> becky: The accessibility of the glossary itself needs attention-- no headings
16:27:18 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: AAC?
16:27:29 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... the formal for symbolic languages
16:27:37 <Lionel_Wolberger> becky: I stand corrected: there are headings
16:30:15 <Lionel_Wolberger> MichaelC: They are not using sections for the alphabetical letter headings, and so the letters do not appear
16:30:37 <Lionel_Wolberger> MichaelC: If they saw fit to add letters, they should mark them up properly
16:31:12 <Lionel_Wolberger> becky: It seems, in the spirit of WCAG: they made something easy for sighted users, they may as well make that access available to people relying on a screen reader
16:31:12 <MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/9
16:31:28 <MichaelC> https://html.spec.whatwg.org/review-drafts/2021-01/
16:33:01 <Lionel_Wolberger> NeilS: A mail was sent regarding an update of the agreement
16:35:12 <Lionel_Wolberger> action: Lionel_Wolberger to review i18n glossary for APA input
16:35:13 <trackbot> Error finding 'Lionel_Wolberger'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/users>.
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16:36:42 <Lionel_Wolberger> action: amy_c to review HTML review draft (https://html.spec.whatwg.org/review-drafts/2021-01/)
16:36:43 <trackbot> Error finding 'amy_c'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/users>.
16:38:22 <Lionel_Wolberger> becky: We could look at the living standard
16:39:48 <MichaelC> https://html.spec.whatwg.org/review-drafts/2021-01/
16:40:45 <Lionel_Wolberger> MichaelC: The agreement with WHATWG is that they maintain living documents, but W3C can periodically receive a set copy to respond to.
16:42:21 <JF> zakim, who is here?
16:42:21 <Zakim> Present: Joshue, becky, paul_grenier, mike_beganyi, JF, janina, Lionel_Wolberger, NeilS, amy_c, JonnyJames
16:42:24 <Zakim> On IRC I see JonnyJames, amy_c, NeilS, JF, mike_beganyi, Lionel_Wolberger, Zakim, RRSAgent, becky, paul_grenier, MichaelC, janina, jasonjgw, manu, trackbot, slightlyoff, Rachael,
16:42:24 <Zakim> ... tink, ada, ZoeBijl, Joshue108, jamesn
16:42:49 <Lionel_Wolberger> action: carny to review HTML review draft (https://html.spec.whatwg.org/review-drafts/2021-01/)
16:42:49 <trackbot> Error finding 'carny'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/users>.
16:43:13 <Lionel_Wolberger> action: lwolberg to review i18n glossary for APA input
16:43:13 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2298 - Review i18n glossary for apa input [on Lionel Wolberger - due 2021-07-21].
16:43:34 <Lionel_Wolberger> action: Carney to review HTML review draft (https://html.spec.whatwg.org/review-drafts/2021-01/)
16:43:35 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2299 - Review html review draft (https://html.spec.whatwg.org/review-drafts/2021-01/) [on Amy Carney - due 2021-07-21].
16:44:02 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
16:44:02 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- CSS Update (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues -- taken up [from janina]
16:44:32 <amy_c> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/3
16:44:49 <amy_c> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5710#issuecomment-840772752
16:45:04 <Lionel_Wolberger> amy_c: CSS color adjust asked for APA perspective on fingerprinting
16:45:28 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... fingerprinting can force exposure of colors
16:47:27 <Lionel_Wolberger> amy_c: ... propose that APA doesn't have add'l input here
16:47:49 <Lionel_Wolberger> becky: APA may comment: the group seems to have resolved the issue and APA has nothing further to dad
16:49:03 <Lionel_Wolberger> s/dad/add
16:49:34 <amy_c> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-review/issues/79
16:49:34 <Lionel_Wolberger> becky: APA believes the group has resolved the issues, and APA is satisfied with their conclusion.
16:51:16 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
16:51:16 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned -- taken up [from janina]
16:52:04 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Active
16:53:17 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
16:53:17 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open -- taken up [from janina]
16:55:31 <becky> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2295
16:56:06 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: 2295 is closed.
16:56:23 <becky> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2272
16:56:35 <amy_c> https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues/42
16:58:02 <janina> http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/users/my
16:58:07 <becky> rrsagent, make minutes
16:58:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/14-apa-minutes.html becky
16:59:40 <Lionel_Wolberger> amy_c: I can close 2272
17:00:21 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
17:00:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/14-apa-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
17:13:50 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, please part
17:13:50 <RRSAgent> I see 5 open action items saved in https://www.w3.org/2021/07/14-apa-actions.rdf :
17:13:50 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Lionel_Wolberger to review i18n glossary for APA input [1]
17:13:50 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2021/07/14-apa-irc#T16-35-12
17:13:50 <RRSAgent> ACTION: amy_c to review HTML review draft (https://html.spec.whatwg.org/review-drafts/2021-01/) [2]
17:13:50 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2021/07/14-apa-irc#T16-36-42
17:13:50 <RRSAgent> ACTION: carny to review HTML review draft (https://html.spec.whatwg.org/review-drafts/2021-01/) [3]
17:13:50 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2021/07/14-apa-irc#T16-42-49
17:13:50 <RRSAgent> ACTION: lwolberg to review i18n glossary for APA input [4]
17:13:50 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2021/07/14-apa-irc#T16-43-13
17:13:50 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Carney to review HTML review draft (https://html.spec.whatwg.org/review-drafts/2021-01/) [5]
17:13:50 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2021/07/14-apa-irc#T16-43-34
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21:55:48 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make log world
21:55:51 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
21:55:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/14-apa-minutes.html MichaelC
21:56:31 <MichaelC> rrsagent, bye
21:56:31 <RRSAgent> I see no action items