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15:45:39 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
15:45:39 <trackbot> Date: 07 July 2021
15:45:41 <janina> agenda?
15:45:49 <janina> zakim, clear agenda
15:45:51 <Zakim> agenda cleared
15:45:57 <janina> Chair:  Janina
15:45:57 <janina> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
15:45:57 <janina> agenda+ TPAC Planning https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2021
15:45:57 <janina> agenda+ FAST Survey https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2021Jun/0009.html
15:46:00 <janina> agenda+ Task Force Updates
15:46:02 <janina> agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
15:46:05 <janina> agenda+ A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
15:46:08 <janina> agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
15:46:11 <janina> agenda+ Permissions Policy Response https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2021Jul/0001.html
15:46:14 <janina> agenda+ CSS Update &  Comment Feedback (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
15:46:16 <janina> agenda+ Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
15:46:19 <janina> agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
15:46:22 <janina> agenda+ Other Business
15:46:24 <janina> agenda+ be done
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15:59:03 <JF> agenda?
16:00:26 <Gottfried> present +
16:00:33 <janina>  present+
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16:00:51 <mike_beganyi> present+
16:00:57 <MichaelC> present+
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16:02:10 <Gottfried> scribe: Gottfried
16:02:31 <Gottfried> present+
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16:02:48 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
16:02:48 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from janina]
16:02:53 <NeilS> present+
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16:03:28 <IanPouncey> present+
16:03:39 <janina> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/video-examples
16:03:56 <Gottfried> Janina: We have a video page now. This is a permanent link.
16:04:30 <Gottfried> ... This includes the presentation by Niklas Schildhauer on 03/10/21.
16:05:08 <Gottfried> ... Feel free to announce it to everybody who might be interested.
16:05:50 <Gottfried> ... There is an active CfC on Media Hints. Please respond.
16:05:55 <JF> Q+
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16:07:02 <JonnyJames> present+
16:07:24 <Gottfried> JF: There are popup buttons.
16:07:28 <Gottfried> Janina: French?
16:07:44 <Gottfried> Michael: Will try to find it.  Must be a dangling French piece of text.
16:07:59 <becky> present+
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16:09:47 <JF> ack me
16:11:08 <Gottfried> Janina: Videos of last year's TPAC are there as well.
16:11:14 <Gottfried> ... Our video repo will grow.
16:11:46 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
16:11:46 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- TPAC Planning https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2021 -- taken up [from janina]
16:12:45 <Gottfried> janina: Please send me your meeting requests (who + why). We need to pull it into this page.
16:13:51 <Gottfried> ... There is a diverity and inclusion fund to assist people for participation on TPAC.
16:14:04 <Gottfried> ... E.g. if somebody needs interpretation services.
16:14:28 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
16:14:28 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- FAST Survey https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2021Jun/0009.html -- taken up [from janina]
16:14:47 <Gottfried> janina: Survey closes tonight.
16:15:27 <Gottfried> Lionel_Wolberger: It takes some time - so plan for it.
16:15:43 <Gottfried> MichaelC: We appreciate your time. We will benefit from it.
16:15:55 <Gottfried> janina: This is driving WCAG 3 and our work in APA.
16:16:35 <Gottfried> zakim, next it
16:16:35 <Zakim> I don't understand 'next it', Gottfried
16:16:37 <Gottfried> zakim, next item,
16:16:37 <Zakim> I don't understand 'next item,', Gottfried
16:16:39 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
16:16:39 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Task Force Updates -- taken up [from janina]
16:17:18 <Gottfried> janina: We do not have the Immersive Media User Requirements ready.
16:17:36 <Gottfried> ... Will still take a while.
16:17:42 <JF> Q+
16:18:26 <Gottfried> JF: Comleted red line edit review of explainer doc, semantic content.
16:18:38 <Gottfried> ... Still working on the third doc on structure.
16:19:01 <Gottfried> ... Explainer is on a note track.
16:19:43 <Gottfried> ... Working on reformating. Will deal with note track language.
16:20:07 <JF> s/Still working on the third doc on structure./Still working on the second and third doc on structure.
16:20:08 <Gottfried> Lionel_Wolberger: Made progress on docs. Formulating our TPAC plans.
16:20:30 <Gottfried> janina: Looking for comments from AT, in particular SRs.
16:20:52 <Gottfried> ... Probably will have meeting(s) on this at TPAC.
16:21:00 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
16:21:00 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, Gottfried
16:21:07 <janina> q?
16:21:13 <janina> ack jf
16:21:13 <Gottfried> ack JF
16:21:16 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
16:21:16 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 -- taken up [from janina]
16:21:43 <Gottfried> MichaelC: There are no new charters.
16:21:48 <Gottfried> zakim, close this item
16:21:48 <Zakim> agendum 5 closed
16:21:49 <Zakim> I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:21:49 <Zakim> 6. A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review [from janina]
16:21:51 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
16:21:51 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review -- taken up [from janina]
16:22:36 <MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/6040
16:22:39 <Gottfried> MichaelC: CSS Counter Styles
16:22:55 <Gottfried> ... We looked at this issue last week, asked research to take a look.
16:23:20 <Gottfried> ... Issue has been closed, assuming the commenter (Lisa) has been satisfied.
16:23:44 <Gottfried> ... We need to sign off or hold it open.
16:23:57 <Gottfried> IanPouncey: I think we were happy with it.
16:24:30 <Gottfried> IanPouncey: Changing counter styles is quite limited anyway.
16:24:48 <Gottfried> janina: Any objection to closing this issue?
16:24:50 <JF> +1 to closing
16:24:51 <Gottfried> (none)
16:24:58 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
16:24:58 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from janina]
16:25:09 <Gottfried> MichaelC: None
16:25:15 <Gottfried> zakim, close this item
16:25:15 <Zakim> agendum 7 closed
16:25:16 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:25:16 <Zakim> 8. Permissions Policy Response https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2021Jul/0001.html [from janina]
16:25:19 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
16:25:19 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- Permissions Policy Response https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2021Jul/0001.html -- taken up [from janina]
16:27:30 <Gottfried> Becky: Issue with permissions.
16:29:44 <Gottfried> ... Marcos clarified the issue in his message.
16:29:53 <Gottfried> ... What would be the next steps?
16:30:18 <janina> q?
16:30:59 <Gottfried> Becky: Should we ask the authors to put this into their spec?
16:31:28 <Gottfried> janina: I don't think we need to ask for that. We should not bother people too much.  We should just thank them for clarification.
16:31:36 <Gottfried> janina: any objection?
16:31:37 <Gottfried> (none)
16:31:56 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
16:31:56 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- CSS Update &  Comment Feedback (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues -- taken up [from janina]
16:32:44 <Gottfried> amy_c: What do you expect me to do with TPAC planning?
16:33:14 <Gottfried> janina: Nothing specific. Tradition is to cue issues up to be discussed in a joint meeting.
16:33:29 <Gottfried> ... What dangling issues do we have?
16:33:54 <Gottfried> ... Niklas' presentation: Proposes new media queries.
16:34:27 <Gottfried> ... We might ask Niklas to join this discussion.
16:34:33 <Gottfried> amy_c: Yes, i will do this.
16:37:29 <Gottfried> Gottfried: James Craig referenced an old proposal on data privacy. We should discuss this issue with CSS.
16:39:07 <Gottfried> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3488
16:40:21 <Gottfried> Proposed privacy model from Indie UI: https://www.w3.org/TR/indie-ui-context/#privacy-model
16:40:45 <Gottfried> janina: We need to solve the privacy issue because we need it for Niklas' suggested new media queries.
16:41:00 <Gottfried> ... We should bring this up prior to TPAC so people can think about it upfront.
16:41:34 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
16:41:34 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned -- taken up [from janina]
16:42:43 <Gottfried> MichaelC: File API assigned to David. Need to ping him.
16:43:02 <Gottfried> ... Media Session Standard
16:43:07 <Gottfried> janina: Looks okay to me.
16:43:18 <Gottfried> ... User-friendly names for devices, status, etc. No concerns.
16:43:28 <Gottfried> MichaelC: I'll mark as completed.
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16:43:58 <Gottfried> janina: MediaStreamTrack Content Hints: CfC running.
16:44:19 <Gottfried> MichaelC: I'll keep Payment Request API in the list
16:44:22 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Active
16:44:29 <janina> regrets: Frederik
16:45:55 <Gottfried> MichaelC: (summarizes statuses on different specs) - need scheduled time to discuss this
16:46:24 <Gottfried> amy_c: I had submitted an issue on color contrast. I can pick it up again.
16:47:10 <Gottfried> s/color contrast/color adjust level 1
16:47:41 <Gottfried> janina: Can we discuss some responses now?
16:48:07 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
16:48:07 <Zakim> agendum 11 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open -- taken up [from janina]
16:48:41 <Gottfried> action-2242?
16:48:41 <trackbot> action-2242 -- Ian Pouncey to Manage css tf review of css transforms module level 2 https://www.w3.org/tr/css-transforms-2/ -- due 2020-03-19 -- OPEN
16:48:41 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2242
16:49:20 <Gottfried> IanPouncey: This is not adding functionality that is not possible already, only not locally.
16:49:58 <Gottfried> ... Positive that now no service needs to be involved to detect movements etc. Good for privacy.
16:50:52 <Gottfried> ... WCAG SC on concurrent input mechanism.
16:51:05 <Gottfried> janina: E.g. raise your hand instead of a mouse click.
16:52:08 <Gottfried> action-2296?
16:52:08 <trackbot> action-2296 -- Ian Pouncey to Review https://www.w3.org/tr/webnn/ -- due 2021-07-07 -- OPEN
16:52:08 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2296
16:52:24 <Gottfried> (action 2296 is the related action, not 2242)
16:52:57 <Gottfried> MichaelC: Closing action 2296.
16:53:15 <Gottfried> zakim, open item 10
16:53:15 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned -- taken up [from janina]
16:53:20 <MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/picture-in-picture/issues/179
16:53:30 <Gottfried> MichaelC: Let's discuss picture-in-picture.
16:53:42 <Gottfried> ... Examples of other Web APIs for demonstration?
16:53:57 <Gottfried> ... This is a year old. We never replied.
16:54:34 <Gottfried> becky: I can try to look for examples.
16:54:38 <Gottfried> janina: I
16:54:47 <Gottfried> ... would like to see examples in WCAG 3.
16:55:21 <Gottfried> ... WCAG so far has not spent much time on APIs.
16:56:20 <Gottfried> ... We could use Media Hints and Lionel's text for it.
16:57:07 <Gottfried> ... We need to talk to Silver that maybe APA needs more APIs to consider.
16:57:21 <Gottfried> MichaelC: Should we talk about a strategy for developing new specs on APIs?
16:57:23 <Gottfried> janina: yes
16:57:43 <Gottfried> Lionel_Wolberger: Media Hints is an API, but it is not openly called an API.
16:58:09 <Gottfried> janina: It is a good spec - tells about the things and what they are doing.
16:59:00 <Gottfried> ... The meeting is adjourned.
16:59:18 <Gottfried> zakim, bye
16:59:18 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been janina, paul_grenier, becky, IanPouncey, mike_beganyi, JF, Jonny_James, Fazio_, Lionel, Joshue, JonnyJames, Lionel_Wolberger,
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