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17:55:28 <Judy> agenda?
17:55:28 <trackbot> Meeting: WAI Coordination Call Teleconference
17:55:28 <trackbot> Date: 30 June 2021
17:55:35 <Judy> clear agenda
17:57:35 <Judy> agenda+ Scribe, rrsagent, agenda check, confirming summer reduced meeting schedule for WAI CC call. (Please add your present+ to IRC)
17:57:35 <Judy> agenda+ Publication announcements?
17:57:35 <Judy> agenda+ Any updates on those new/upcoming documents? https://www.w3.org/WAI/cc/wiki/WAI_Announcement_Drafts
17:57:35 <Judy> agenda+ FYI, staff transition planning
17:57:35 <Judy> agenda+ Update back from WAI Extended meeting
17:57:37 <Judy> agenda+ Periodic check-in on how WAI groups are doing on their chartered milestones?
17:57:39 <Judy> agenda+ Periodic check-in on transparency of Task Forces, and TF sub-groups
17:57:41 <Judy> agenda+ CEPC periodic reminder, and FYI related training materials in development
17:57:43 <Judy> agenda+ AOB?
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18:01:52 <tzviya> present+
18:03:56 <Judy> present+
18:03:59 <stevelee> present+
18:04:08 <jamesn> present+
18:04:10 <janina_> resent+
18:04:19 <janina_> present+
18:04:38 <Judy> s/resent+//
18:05:46 <janina_> scribe: janina
18:05:47 <Judy> zakim, next item
18:05:47 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Scribe, rrsagent, agenda check, confirming summer reduced meeting schedule for WAI CC call. (Please add your present+ to IRC) -- taken up [from Judy]
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18:06:19 <brent> Scribe: Brent
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18:06:41 <George> present+
18:06:47 <janina_> scribe: janina
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18:07:13 <janina_> Proposal is next CC call would be 28th of July? Availability?
18:07:24 <janina_> George and Tzviya unavailable
18:07:37 <brent> I am available.
18:08:24 <Judy> FOR JULY, OUR MEETING WILL BE JULY 28. WE'LL SKIP JULY 14
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18:09:30 <janina_> Now asking who CANNOT do 25 August?
18:09:40 <Judy> now checking for AUG 25, who could not do that?
18:10:13 <Judy> LIKELY OUR AUGUST MEETING DATE IS THE 25th. To be confirmed.
18:10:26 <Judy> zakim, next time
18:10:26 <Zakim> I don't understand 'next time', Judy
18:10:30 <becky> present+
18:10:33 <Judy> zakim, next item
18:10:33 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Publication announcements? -- taken up [from Judy]
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18:12:08 <Judy> https://www.w3.org/WAI/cc/wiki/WAI_Announcement_Drafts
18:12:37 <janina_> APA expecting XAUR to have published by 28 July
18:12:40 <tzviya> q+
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18:14:05 <janina_> judy: Asks whether Epub mapping is coming?
18:14:10 <janina_> tzviya: yes
18:14:20 <janina_> judy: Is it going well?
18:15:20 <janina_> gk: Mappings is published on the 29th. So, done!
18:15:23 <Judy> ack tz
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18:15:49 <janina_> gk: User Experience Guide is a CG doc that should be done by the 28th
18:15:55 <janina_> judy: Announcements?
18:16:09 <janina_> gk: Will follow up once we finish
18:16:15 <janina_> judy: connect with Shawn?
18:16:17 <janina_> gk: yes
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18:16:34 <janina_> judy: Notes Shawn appreciates heads up and predictable steps
18:16:36 <janina_> gk: me too!
18:16:49 <Judy> s/heads up/heads up of 5 days/
18:17:08 <Judy> agenda?
18:17:24 <Judy> zakim, drop agendum 3
18:17:24 <Zakim> agendum 3, Any updates on those new/upcoming documents? https://www.w3.org/WAI/cc/wiki/WAI_Announcement_Drafts, dropped
18:17:31 <Judy> zakim, next item
18:17:31 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- FYI, staff transition planning -- taken up [from Judy]
18:18:26 <janina_> judy: Notes announcement from Shadi and thanks people for their well wishes in response
18:18:34 <janina_> judy: Notes 3-4 month notice
18:19:11 <janina_> judy: Notes lots of coordination; we're working on making the transition smooth
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18:19:54 <janina_> judy: Expecting W3C will fill the position
18:20:18 <janina_> judy: Looking at workload balance in the process but expect news in the next few weeks
18:20:42 <janina_> judy: If any questions or concerns, please feel free now or ping me later
18:21:01 <janina_> judy: Smooth transition is the top priority
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18:21:26 <janina_> gk: Will his position be recruited in Europe?
18:21:53 <janina_> judy: Funds for that are in Europe; and it's fully funded externally; so will need E.U. work authorization
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18:22:29 <janina_> judy: Ideas welcome, of course
18:22:37 <brent> q+
18:22:55 <janina_> judy: Permutations are possibilities, but the work authorization is key
18:23:30 <janina_> brent: Notes Shadi's involvement with specific EO projects; will new person pick that up?
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18:24:26 <janina_> judy: Looking for maximum smoothness of transition
18:25:07 <janina_> judy: But, we're also doing a review of our work and work organization; so may be some rebalancing
18:26:00 <janina_> judy: Many things are defined in funding, so significant deviation very unlikely
18:26:15 <Judy> ack br
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18:26:46 <janina_> brent: We've been looking what was he involved in and what was he actually managing ... Don't forsee problems, but we're trying to figure it out
18:27:06 <janina_> brent: We also need to re-evaluate our work
18:27:34 <janina_> judy: Suggest you assume continuity as a baseline
18:28:07 <Judy> agenda?
18:28:23 <janina_> brent: We plan to share any gaps we identify ... some scheduling challenges in the review timeline ... but sooner not later
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18:28:49 <janina_> judy: Notes Shadi had lots of work in EO
18:29:19 <janina_> judy: Notes also ACT work
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18:30:37 <janina_> judy: Checks with people re intersections with Shadi ...
18:30:50 <janina_> judy: Asks anything to sync on ...
18:31:14 <tzviya> agenda+ to mention TPAC Inclusion Fund and Fellowships
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18:31:27 <janina_> judy: Notes Steve is following up on COGA ...
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18:31:36 <Judy> zakim, next item
18:31:36 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Update back from WAI Extended meeting -- taken up [from Judy]
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18:32:20 <janina_> judy: Recalls asking input for team mtg that is now in process
18:32:33 <janina_> judy: some questions from here have been taken up
18:32:45 <janina_> judy: we're trying to take a comprehensive overview
18:33:39 <janina_> judy: team discussion included wcag 3 expectations
18:33:51 <janina_> judy: Any input at this stage?
18:34:06 <Judy> zakim, next item
18:34:06 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- Periodic check-in on how WAI groups are doing on their chartered milestones? -- taken up [from Judy]
18:34:10 <janina_> judy: thanks group for input last time
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18:35:14 <janina_> judy: asks whether anyone ready for quick update? Or perhaps plan for next mtg?
18:36:00 <janina_> james: Notes ARIA is under staffed to stay up with the timjeline, so very behind
18:36:15 <janina_> judy: And ARIA needs certain skillset
18:36:37 <janina_> james: some good new folks, but getting people well integrated we need implementations in browsers
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18:36:54 <janina_> james: competing priorities get in the way
18:37:21 <janina_> judy: dialog is ongoing?
18:37:32 <janina_> james: totally, except firefox which has fallen off w3c
18:37:49 <janina_> james: we have webkit and chromium; speed just isn't what we'd like
18:38:20 <janina_> james: sometimes we pull things out of the spec; sometimes we run into challenges we didn't forsee and need to redo spec
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18:38:38 <janina_> james: we're stuck because the req on browser implementation
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18:39:46 <janina_> judy: Notes different approaches in the past; but unsure of current fit --workshop and submit patch?
18:39:58 <janina_> james: potentially hard; approvers are already in group, for instance
18:40:15 <janina_> judy: virtual workshop?
18:40:21 <janina_> james: competing priorities
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18:40:52 <tzviya> q+
18:42:28 <Judy> ack tz
18:42:41 <janina_> tzviya: Notes people care much more about ARIA than they often let on; suggests some brainstorming about how to get motion out of that
18:43:00 <janina_> judy: suggests a call phps for a group
18:43:49 <janina_> janina: asks about APA charter progress ...
18:44:16 <janina_> judy: possibly a miscommunication a few weeks ago ... unclear whether responses on charter went out
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18:44:33 <janina_> judy: think APA is close to done, but need to close all the loops
18:45:21 <janina_> judy: asks re rec track items
18:45:35 <janina_> becky: personalization is late according to current charter
18:45:44 <janina_> judy: and new charter?
18:45:50 <janina_> becky: fairly close
18:46:13 <janina_> judy: Asks EO has timeline deliverables?
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18:46:33 <janina_> brent: items part of E.U. funding that have deadline expectations; but not in charter
18:46:39 <janina_> brent: charter has 2 years left
18:46:58 <janina_> brent: we've progress on almost every deliverable; we're in good shape
18:47:27 <janina_> judy: Good, expect we'll check in phps quarterly
18:47:37 <Judy> zakim, next item
18:47:37 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- Periodic check-in on transparency of Task Forces, and TF sub-groups -- taken up [from Judy]
18:48:21 <janina_> judy: raises discoverability of task forces and work ongoing ... have had recent complaint ...
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18:48:53 <janina_> judy: Notes TFs should be visible from main page. Any subgroups in current TFs?
18:49:14 <janina_> brent: no subgroups
18:49:32 <janina_> tzviya: we know the struct because we meet
18:49:50 <janina_> Judy: concern is people around the planet finding work they may need to be aware of
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18:51:42 <Judy> agenda?
18:51:55 <janina_> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/video-examples
18:52:06 <Judy> Topic: News from APA
18:52:09 <janina_> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/video-examples
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18:53:05 <Judy> [JB: Drops in a link ahead of an upcoming quick agenda item...: https://www.w3.org/Consortium/cepc/ ]
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18:54:30 <janina_> james: Making updating web pages easier would really help
18:54:32 <tzviya> +1 to jamesn
18:54:46 <janina_> judy: Believe that became "make the wiki the main thing"
18:55:35 <Judy> [JB: hears that using Wiki as the main thing is NOT satisfactory]
18:56:06 <janina_> janina offers github repo in APA seems OK; PR to Michael
18:56:14 <janina_> judy: will take to tooling conversation ...
18:56:15 <Judy> zakim, next item
18:56:15 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- CEPC periodic reminder, and FYI related training materials in development -- taken up [from Judy]
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18:56:45 <janina_> judy: notes some basic training
18:57:35 <janina_> judy: a reminder to please remind people roughly quarterly about this and ask people to read
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18:58:54 <tzviya> issues can be raised at https://github.com/w3c/PWETF/issues
18:59:17 <Judy> [JB: Link again: https://www.w3.org/Consortium/cepc/ ]
18:59:25 <Judy> zakim, next item
18:59:25 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- AOB? -- taken up [from Judy]
18:59:32 <Judy> zakim, drop item 9
18:59:32 <Zakim> agendum 9, AOB?, dropped
18:59:36 <Judy> zakim, next item
18:59:36 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- to mention TPAC Inclusion Fund and Fellowships -- taken up [from tzviya]
18:59:54 <tzviya> https://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/9131
19:00:10 <janina_> tzviya: Noting Inclusion Fund now open for TPAC fellowships;
19:00:22 <janina_> tzviya: open to a broad group and please spread the word
19:01:16 <janina_> judy: this to help support participation at TPAC intended to increase participatory diversity
19:01:37 <Judy> rssagent, please make minutes
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19:51:02 <shawn9> rrsagent, draft minutes
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