IRC log of waicc on 2021-06-30

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17:55:28 [Judy]

agenda?

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Meeting: WAI Coordination Call Teleconference

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Date: 30 June 2021

17:55:35 [Judy]

clear agenda

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agenda+ Scribe, rrsagent, agenda check, confirming summer reduced meeting schedule for WAI CC call. (Please add your present+ to IRC)

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agenda+ Publication announcements?

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agenda+ Any updates on those new/upcoming documents? https://www.w3.org/WAI/cc/wiki/WAI_Announcement_Drafts

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agenda+ FYI, staff transition planning

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agenda+ Update back from WAI Extended meeting

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agenda+ Periodic check-in on how WAI groups are doing on their chartered milestones?

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agenda+ Periodic check-in on transparency of Task Forces, and TF sub-groups

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agenda+ CEPC periodic reminder, and FYI related training materials in development

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agenda+ AOB?

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18:01:52 [tzviya]

present+

18:03:56 [Judy]

present+

18:03:59 [stevelee]

present+

18:04:08 [jamesn]

present+

18:04:10 [janina_]

resent+

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present+

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s/resent+//

18:05:46 [janina_]

scribe: janina

18:05:47 [Judy]

zakim, next item

18:05:47 [Zakim]

agendum 1 -- Scribe, rrsagent, agenda check, confirming summer reduced meeting schedule for WAI CC call. (Please add your present+ to IRC) -- taken up [from Judy]

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Scribe: Brent

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present+

18:06:47 [janina_]

scribe: janina

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18:07:13 [janina_]

Proposal is next CC call would be 28th of July? Availability?

18:07:24 [janina_]

George and Tzviya unavailable

18:07:37 [brent]

I am available.

18:08:24 [Judy]

FOR JULY, OUR MEETING WILL BE JULY 28. WE'LL SKIP JULY 14

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18:09:30 [janina_]

Now asking who CANNOT do 25 August?

18:09:40 [Judy]

now checking for AUG 25, who could not do that?

18:10:13 [Judy]

LIKELY OUR AUGUST MEETING DATE IS THE 25th. To be confirmed.

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zakim, next time

18:10:26 [Zakim]

I don't understand 'next time', Judy

18:10:30 [becky]

present+

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zakim, next item

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agendum 2 -- Publication announcements? -- taken up [from Judy]

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https://www.w3.org/WAI/cc/wiki/WAI_Announcement_Drafts

18:12:37 [janina_]

APA expecting XAUR to have published by 28 July

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q+

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judy: Asks whether Epub mapping is coming?

18:14:10 [janina_]

tzviya: yes

18:14:20 [janina_]

judy: Is it going well?

18:15:20 [janina_]

gk: Mappings is published on the 29th. So, done!

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ack tz

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gk: User Experience Guide is a CG doc that should be done by the 28th

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judy: Announcements?

18:16:09 [janina_]

gk: Will follow up once we finish

18:16:15 [janina_]

judy: connect with Shawn?

18:16:17 [janina_]

gk: yes

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judy: Notes Shawn appreciates heads up and predictable steps

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gk: me too!

18:16:49 [Judy]

s/heads up/heads up of 5 days/

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agenda?

18:17:24 [Judy]

zakim, drop agendum 3

18:17:24 [Zakim]

agendum 3, Any updates on those new/upcoming documents? https://www.w3.org/WAI/cc/wiki/WAI_Announcement_Drafts, dropped

18:17:31 [Judy]

zakim, next item

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agendum 4 -- FYI, staff transition planning -- taken up [from Judy]

18:18:26 [janina_]

judy: Notes announcement from Shadi and thanks people for their well wishes in response

18:18:34 [janina_]

judy: Notes 3-4 month notice

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judy: Notes lots of coordination; we're working on making the transition smooth

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judy: Expecting W3C will fill the position

18:20:18 [janina_]

judy: Looking at workload balance in the process but expect news in the next few weeks

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judy: If any questions or concerns, please feel free now or ping me later

18:21:01 [janina_]

judy: Smooth transition is the top priority

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gk: Will his position be recruited in Europe?

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judy: Funds for that are in Europe; and it's fully funded externally; so will need E.U. work authorization

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judy: Ideas welcome, of course

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q+

18:22:55 [janina_]

judy: Permutations are possibilities, but the work authorization is key

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brent: Notes Shadi's involvement with specific EO projects; will new person pick that up?

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judy: Looking for maximum smoothness of transition

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judy: But, we're also doing a review of our work and work organization; so may be some rebalancing

18:26:00 [janina_]

judy: Many things are defined in funding, so significant deviation very unlikely

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ack br

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brent: We've been looking what was he involved in and what was he actually managing ... Don't forsee problems, but we're trying to figure it out

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brent: We also need to re-evaluate our work

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judy: Suggest you assume continuity as a baseline

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agenda?

18:28:23 [janina_]

brent: We plan to share any gaps we identify ... some scheduling challenges in the review timeline ... but sooner not later

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judy: Notes Shadi had lots of work in EO

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judy: Notes also ACT work

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judy: Checks with people re intersections with Shadi ...

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judy: Asks anything to sync on ...

18:31:14 [tzviya]

agenda+ to mention TPAC Inclusion Fund and Fellowships

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judy: Notes Steve is following up on COGA ...

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zakim, next item

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agendum 5 -- Update back from WAI Extended meeting -- taken up [from Judy]

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18:32:20 [janina_]

judy: Recalls asking input for team mtg that is now in process

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judy: some questions from here have been taken up

18:32:45 [janina_]

judy: we're trying to take a comprehensive overview

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judy: team discussion included wcag 3 expectations

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judy: Any input at this stage?

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zakim, next item

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agendum 6 -- Periodic check-in on how WAI groups are doing on their chartered milestones? -- taken up [from Judy]

18:34:10 [janina_]

judy: thanks group for input last time

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18:35:14 [janina_]

judy: asks whether anyone ready for quick update? Or perhaps plan for next mtg?

18:36:00 [janina_]

james: Notes ARIA is under staffed to stay up with the timjeline, so very behind

18:36:15 [janina_]

judy: And ARIA needs certain skillset

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james: some good new folks, but getting people well integrated we need implementations in browsers

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james: competing priorities get in the way

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judy: dialog is ongoing?

18:37:32 [janina_]

james: totally, except firefox which has fallen off w3c

18:37:49 [janina_]

james: we have webkit and chromium; speed just isn't what we'd like

18:38:20 [janina_]

james: sometimes we pull things out of the spec; sometimes we run into challenges we didn't forsee and need to redo spec

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james: we're stuck because the req on browser implementation

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judy: Notes different approaches in the past; but unsure of current fit --workshop and submit patch?

18:39:58 [janina_]

james: potentially hard; approvers are already in group, for instance

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judy: virtual workshop?

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james: competing priorities

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18:40:52 [tzviya]

q+

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ack tz

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tzviya: Notes people care much more about ARIA than they often let on; suggests some brainstorming about how to get motion out of that

18:43:00 [janina_]

judy: suggests a call phps for a group

18:43:49 [janina_]

janina: asks about APA charter progress ...

18:44:16 [janina_]

judy: possibly a miscommunication a few weeks ago ... unclear whether responses on charter went out

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judy: think APA is close to done, but need to close all the loops

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judy: asks re rec track items

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becky: personalization is late according to current charter

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judy: and new charter?

18:45:50 [janina_]

becky: fairly close

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judy: Asks EO has timeline deliverables?

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brent: items part of E.U. funding that have deadline expectations; but not in charter

18:46:39 [janina_]

brent: charter has 2 years left

18:46:58 [janina_]

brent: we've progress on almost every deliverable; we're in good shape

18:47:27 [janina_]

judy: Good, expect we'll check in phps quarterly

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zakim, next item

18:47:37 [Zakim]

agendum 7 -- Periodic check-in on transparency of Task Forces, and TF sub-groups -- taken up [from Judy]

18:48:21 [janina_]

judy: raises discoverability of task forces and work ongoing ... have had recent complaint ...

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judy: Notes TFs should be visible from main page. Any subgroups in current TFs?

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brent: no subgroups

18:49:32 [janina_]

tzviya: we know the struct because we meet

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Judy: concern is people around the planet finding work they may need to be aware of

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agenda?

18:51:55 [janina_]

https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/video-examples

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Topic: News from APA

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https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/video-examples

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[JB: Drops in a link ahead of an upcoming quick agenda item...: https://www.w3.org/Consortium/cepc/ ]

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18:54:30 [janina_]

james: Making updating web pages easier would really help

18:54:32 [tzviya]

+1 to jamesn

18:54:46 [janina_]

judy: Believe that became "make the wiki the main thing"

18:55:35 [Judy]

[JB: hears that using Wiki as the main thing is NOT satisfactory]

18:56:06 [janina_]

janina offers github repo in APA seems OK; PR to Michael

18:56:14 [janina_]

judy: will take to tooling conversation ...

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zakim, next item

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agendum 8 -- CEPC periodic reminder, and FYI related training materials in development -- taken up [from Judy]

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judy: notes some basic training

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judy: a reminder to please remind people roughly quarterly about this and ask people to read

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18:58:54 [tzviya]

issues can be raised at https://github.com/w3c/PWETF/issues

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[JB: Link again: https://www.w3.org/Consortium/cepc/ ]

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zakim, next item

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agendum 9 -- AOB? -- taken up [from Judy]

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zakim, drop item 9

18:59:32 [Zakim]

agendum 9, AOB?, dropped

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zakim, next item

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agendum 10 -- to mention TPAC Inclusion Fund and Fellowships -- taken up [from tzviya]

18:59:54 [tzviya]

https://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/9131

19:00:10 [janina_]

tzviya: Noting Inclusion Fund now open for TPAC fellowships;

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tzviya: open to a broad group and please spread the word

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judy: this to help support participation at TPAC intended to increase participatory diversity

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rssagent, please make minutes

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rrsagent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/06/30-waicc-minutes.html shawn9

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