IRC log of wot on 2021-06-16
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- logging to https://www.w3.org/2021/06/16-wot-irc
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- 12:02:26 [kaz]
- meeting: WoT-IG/WG
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- chair: Sebastian/McCool
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- present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura
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- present+ Michael_Lagally, Sebastian_Kaebisch
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- rrsagent, make log public
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/06/16-wot-minutes.html kaz
- 12:06:22 [Ege]
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- Topic: Agenda
- 12:07:20 [kaz]
- present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
- 12:07:21 [Ege]
- sk: other points for the agenda?
- 12:07:47 [kaz]
- Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#16_June_2021
- 12:07:51 [kaz]
- -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#16_June_2021 Agenda
- 12:08:08 [kaz]
- topic: Minutes
- 12:08:11 [kaz]
- -> https://www.w3.org/2021/06/09-wot-minutes.html June-9
- 12:08:26 [kaz]
- i/Topic:/scribenick: Ege/
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- Topic: Minutes Review
- 12:09:10 [kaz]
- s/Topic: Minutes Review//
- 12:12:58 [Ege]
- Topic: Charter Extension
- 12:13:11 [Ege]
- sk: please review the proposed IG charter\
- 12:13:50 [mlagally]
- q+
- 12:14:37 [kaz]
- q+
- 12:14:40 [Ege]
- .. we need to check the scope part especially
- 12:14:52 [Ege]
- (sorry this is not extension, simpy new IG charter)
- 12:16:03 [kaz]
- s/charter\\/charter/
- 12:17:08 [sebastian]
- https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/274
- 12:17:41 [kaz]
- s/sorry this/this/
- 12:18:18 [kaz]
- i|please review|-> https://w3c.github.io/wot/charters/wg-ig-2021-proposed.html draft new IG Charter|
- 12:18:26 [Ege]
- kaz could you take minutes for 5 minutes, I had an important phone call
- 12:19:01 [kaz]
- sk: good to shape the content of the Charter
- 12:19:11 [kaz]
- present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura
- 12:19:15 [kaz]
- q?
- 12:19:17 [kaz]
- ack ml
- 12:19:20 [citrullin]
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- 12:19:26 [kaz]
- ... we should be realistic
- 12:20:40 [ryuichi]
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- 12:20:48 [kaz]
- kaz: note that this is an updated Charter for IG
- 12:20:59 [kaz]
- ... no normative deliverables at all
- 12:21:03 [sebastian]
- ack m
- 12:21:07 [sebastian]
- ack k
- 12:21:13 [kaz]
- ... can simply update the liaison list, etc.
- 12:21:27 [kaz]
- i/good to/scribenick: kaz/
- 12:21:36 [kaz]
- topic: Linked Data Signatures
- 12:21:54 [kaz]
- sk: another proposed group on Linked Data Signature
- 12:22:02 [kaz]
- ... McCool is working on it
- 12:22:13 [kaz]
- mm: revising the comments on the GH issue
- 12:22:45 [kaz]
- -> https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/262 McCool's issue 262
- 12:23:02 [kaz]
- mm: issue on the timing of their spec generation
- 12:23:07 [kaz]
- ... related to our work
- 12:23:26 [kaz]
- s/McCool's issue/Strategy issue/
- 12:23:53 [kaz]
- mm: we need to proceed with something for a while
- 12:24:08 [kaz]
- topic: Smart Cities Workshop
- 12:24:18 [kaz]
- sk: 3 WoT-related submissions
- 12:24:27 [kaz]
- ... McCool, Andrea and Sebastian
- 12:25:02 [kaz]
- ... pre-recorded videos and live discussion (during the workshop)
- 12:25:11 [kaz]
- ... I'll provide it this week
- 12:25:34 [kaz]
- kaz: so no recording session needed
- 12:25:56 [kaz]
- sk: right
- 12:26:24 [kaz]
- mm: Andrea and Sebastian, please upload your slides to the wot-marketing repo
- 12:26:26 [kaz]
- sk: ok
- 12:28:00 [kaz]
- topic: Voice Agent Interoperability Workshop
- 12:28:06 [kaz]
- kaz: invited to the workshop yesterday
- 12:28:25 [kaz]
- ... discussion on interoperability for voice agents and device handling
- 12:28:35 [kaz]
- ... related to WoT and Smart Citeis discussion
- 12:28:45 [kaz]
- mm: can we invite some of them to our meeting?
- 12:29:09 [kaz]
- kaz: Debbie Dahl, the former MMI WG Chair, will join the Smart Cities Workshop
- 12:30:00 [kaz]
- ... and we can invite her to the vF2F meeting
- 12:30:16 [kaz]
- mm: would be nice to invite her to the open day on 28th
- 12:30:19 [kaz]
- kaz: ok
- 12:30:30 [kaz]
- action: kaz to ask Debbie to join the open day on 28th
- 12:30:39 [kaz]
- topic: Testfest
- 12:30:46 [kaz]
- mm: not summarized yet
- 12:31:04 [kaz]
- ... we'll have the optional meeting on Friday, June 18
- 12:31:09 [kaz]
- ... to finalize the discussion
- 12:31:26 [kaz]
- ... wrap up the implementation report, etc.
- 12:31:42 [kaz]
- ... and will debrief to the group
- 12:32:14 [kaz]
- ... we can generate report with the help from Farshid, etc.
- 12:32:33 [kaz]
- ... testing plan is needed for our CR transitions
- 12:32:58 [kaz]
- ... would like to wrap-up the results by the end of Monday, June 21
- 12:33:06 [kaz]
- sk: ok
- 12:33:20 [kaz]
- topic: vF2F
- 12:33:34 [kaz]
- -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_June_2021#Virtual_F2F vF2F wiki
- 12:33:52 [kaz]
- sk: we've not finalized the agenda yet but did get topics to discuss
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- mm: June 21: testing
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- q+
- 12:34:58 [kaz]
- ... June 22 tbd
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- ... June 23: Discovery
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- ... June 28: Open Day
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- ... June 30: TD
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- ml: June 29 for Architecture and Use Cases?
- 12:36:50 [kaz]
- sk: ok
- 12:37:15 [kaz]
- ml: June 22 for Profile
- 12:37:39 [Ege]
- kaz I can take over the minutes now. Sorry that it took this long
- 12:38:18 [Ege]
- mm: discovery is mostly good. I will present the spec
- 12:38:34 [kaz]
- i/discovery/scribenick: Ege/
- 12:39:25 [kaz]
- zakim, who is on the call?
- 12:39:25 [Zakim]
- Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Ryuichi_Matsukura
- 12:40:37 [Ege]
- sk: we can shorten the TD time
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- mm: testing as well
- 12:41:43 [Ege]
- mm: just that for a 2h session we have generally 1h45
- 12:42:04 [Ege]
- q+
- 12:43:58 [sebastian]
- q?
- 12:44:04 [Ege]
- Mikkel Haggren Brynildsen from the company Grundfos
- 12:44:27 [kaz]
- s/kaz I can take over the minutes now. Sorry that it took this long//
- 12:44:46 [kaz]
- s/kaz could you take minutes for 5 minutes, I had an important phone call//
- 12:44:53 [kaz]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- 12:46:04 [kaz]
- s/Mikkel/Ege: would like to invite Mikkel/
- 12:46:48 [kaz]
- ml: maybe we can invite them to the UC call?
- 12:46:53 [kaz]
- ek: when?
- 12:47:00 [kaz]
- ml: June 29
- 12:47:09 [kaz]
- ek: maybe impossible
- 12:47:11 [Ege]
- ek: it can be another use case call outside of VF2F
- 12:47:26 [kaz]
- i/maybe we/scribenick: kaz/
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- i/it can be/scribenick: Ege/
- 12:47:35 [McCool]
- q+
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- ack
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- Topic: Publication Planning
- 12:48:36 [kaz]
- s/ack//
- 12:48:52 [Ege]
- mm: we have to make another change before CR in the discovery spec
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- mm: we have many slots that are reserved for other SDOs
- 12:51:34 [Ege]
- mm: mk will give a summary of the SDF work
- 12:51:44 [Ege]
- ... and sk will talk at the WISHI call about TMs
- 12:53:07 [kaz]
- i/we have many/topic: Liaisons/
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- q?
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- q+
- 12:54:17 [Ege]
- sk: I am also talking with Dave regarding eclass
- 12:55:18 [kaz]
- ack k
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- ack mc
- 12:57:30 [Ege]
- mm: we have to have better connection with connexxus
- 12:57:54 [sebastian]
- ack m
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- s/connexxus/Conexxus/
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- ack E
- 12:59:08 [kaz]
- q+
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- ek: I feel that we need to create custom examples for different people who likes WoT but needs more concrete/hands-on stuff to show to their communities
- 13:01:52 [Ege]
- mm: I think we need better examples, tutorials, videos
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- ack k
- 13:02:11 [Ege]
- sk: I have some budget and we can find someone (a professional) who does these
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- kaz: @@
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- s/kaz: @@/
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- i/I have/kaz: think we should think about this issue as an issue on missing guidelines for system integration or deployment. we can continue to work on that as part of the marketing work./
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- i/think we/scribenick: kaz/
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- i/have some/scribenick: Ege/
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- [main call adjourned; no Plugfest call today but additional Testfest call on Friday]
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