12:02:13 RRSAgent has joined #wot 12:02:13 logging to https://www.w3.org/2021/06/16-wot-irc 12:02:22 ktoumura has joined #wot 12:02:26 meeting: WoT-IG/WG 12:02:38 chair: Sebastian/McCool 12:03:00 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura 12:03:09 sebastian has joined #wot 12:03:10 present+ Michael_Lagally, Sebastian_Kaebisch 12:03:14 mlagally has joined #wot 12:03:55 Mizushima has joined #wot 12:05:20 McCool has joined #wot 12:05:32 rrsagent, make log public 12:05:38 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:05:38 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/06/16-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:06:22 Ege has joined #wot 12:07:14 Topic: Agenda 12:07:20 present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima 12:07:21 sk: other points for the agenda? 12:07:47 Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#16_June_2021 12:07:51 -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#16_June_2021 Agenda 12:08:08 topic: Minutes 12:08:11 -> https://www.w3.org/2021/06/09-wot-minutes.html June-9 12:08:26 i/Topic:/scribenick: Ege/ 12:08:54 Topic: Minutes Review 12:09:10 s/Topic: Minutes Review// 12:12:58 Topic: Charter Extension 12:13:11 sk: please review the proposed IG charter\ 12:13:50 q+ 12:14:37 q+ 12:14:40 .. we need to check the scope part especially 12:14:52 (sorry this is not extension, simpy new IG charter) 12:16:03 s/charter\\/charter/ 12:17:08 https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/274 12:17:41 s/sorry this/this/ 12:18:18 i|please review|-> https://w3c.github.io/wot/charters/wg-ig-2021-proposed.html draft new IG Charter| 12:18:26 kaz could you take minutes for 5 minutes, I had an important phone call 12:19:01 sk: good to shape the content of the Charter 12:19:11 present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura 12:19:15 q? 12:19:17 ack ml 12:19:20 citrullin has joined #wot 12:19:26 ... we should be realistic 12:20:40 ryuichi has joined #wot 12:20:48 kaz: note that this is an updated Charter for IG 12:20:59 ... no normative deliverables at all 12:21:03 ack m 12:21:07 ack k 12:21:13 ... can simply update the liaison list, etc. 12:21:27 i/good to/scribenick: kaz/ 12:21:36 topic: Linked Data Signatures 12:21:54 sk: another proposed group on Linked Data Signature 12:22:02 ... McCool is working on it 12:22:13 mm: revising the comments on the GH issue 12:22:45 -> https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/262 McCool's issue 262 12:23:02 mm: issue on the timing of their spec generation 12:23:07 ... related to our work 12:23:26 s/McCool's issue/Strategy issue/ 12:23:53 mm: we need to proceed with something for a while 12:24:08 topic: Smart Cities Workshop 12:24:18 sk: 3 WoT-related submissions 12:24:27 ... McCool, Andrea and Sebastian 12:25:02 ... pre-recorded videos and live discussion (during the workshop) 12:25:11 ... I'll provide it this week 12:25:34 kaz: so no recording session needed 12:25:56 sk: right 12:26:24 mm: Andrea and Sebastian, please upload your slides to the wot-marketing repo 12:26:26 sk: ok 12:28:00 topic: Voice Agent Interoperability Workshop 12:28:06 kaz: invited to the workshop yesterday 12:28:25 ... discussion on interoperability for voice agents and device handling 12:28:35 ... related to WoT and Smart Citeis discussion 12:28:45 mm: can we invite some of them to our meeting? 12:29:09 kaz: Debbie Dahl, the former MMI WG Chair, will join the Smart Cities Workshop 12:30:00 ... and we can invite her to the vF2F meeting 12:30:16 mm: would be nice to invite her to the open day on 28th 12:30:19 kaz: ok 12:30:30 action: kaz to ask Debbie to join the open day on 28th 12:30:39 topic: Testfest 12:30:46 mm: not summarized yet 12:31:04 ... we'll have the optional meeting on Friday, June 18 12:31:09 ... to finalize the discussion 12:31:26 ... wrap up the implementation report, etc. 12:31:42 ... and will debrief to the group 12:32:14 ... we can generate report with the help from Farshid, etc. 12:32:33 ... testing plan is needed for our CR transitions 12:32:58 ... would like to wrap-up the results by the end of Monday, June 21 12:33:06 sk: ok 12:33:20 topic: vF2F 12:33:34 -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_June_2021#Virtual_F2F vF2F wiki 12:33:52 sk: we've not finalized the agenda yet but did get topics to discuss 12:34:49 mm: June 21: testing 12:34:51 mlagally_ has joined #wot 12:34:52 q+ 12:34:58 ... June 22 tbd 12:35:11 ... June 23: Discovery 12:35:39 ... June 28: Open Day 12:35:43 ... June 30: TD 12:36:48 ml: June 29 for Architecture and Use Cases? 12:36:50 sk: ok 12:37:15 ml: June 22 for Profile 12:37:39 kaz I can take over the minutes now. Sorry that it took this long 12:38:18 mm: discovery is mostly good. I will present the spec 12:38:34 i/discovery/scribenick: Ege/ 12:39:25 zakim, who is on the call? 12:39:25 Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Ryuichi_Matsukura 12:40:37 sk: we can shorten the TD time 12:40:40 mm: testing as well 12:41:43 mm: just that for a 2h session we have generally 1h45 12:42:04 q+ 12:43:58 q? 12:44:04 Mikkel Haggren Brynildsen from the company Grundfos 12:44:27 s/kaz I can take over the minutes now. Sorry that it took this long// 12:44:46 s/kaz could you take minutes for 5 minutes, I had an important phone call// 12:44:53 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:44:53 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/06/16-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:46:04 s/Mikkel/Ege: would like to invite Mikkel/ 12:46:48 ml: maybe we can invite them to the UC call? 12:46:53 ek: when? 12:47:00 ml: June 29 12:47:09 ek: maybe impossible 12:47:11 ek: it can be another use case call outside of VF2F 12:47:26 i/maybe we/scribenick: kaz/ 12:47:33 i/it can be/scribenick: Ege/ 12:47:35 q+ 12:47:39 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:47:39 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/06/16-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:47:52 ack 12:48:11 Topic: Publication Planning 12:48:36 s/ack// 12:48:52 mm: we have to make another change before CR in the discovery spec 12:51:09 mm: we have many slots that are reserved for other SDOs 12:51:34 mm: mk will give a summary of the SDF work 12:51:44 ... and sk will talk at the WISHI call about TMs 12:53:07 i/we have many/topic: Liaisons/ 12:53:39 q? 12:53:45 q+ 12:54:17 sk: I am also talking with Dave regarding eclass 12:55:18 ack k 12:55:26 ack mc 12:57:30 mm: we have to have better connection with connexxus 12:57:54 ack m 12:57:57 s/connexxus/Conexxus/ 12:57:57 ack E 12:59:08 q+ 13:00:58 ek: I feel that we need to create custom examples for different people who likes WoT but needs more concrete/hands-on stuff to show to their communities 13:01:52 mm: I think we need better examples, tutorials, videos 13:02:09 ack k 13:02:11 sk: I have some budget and we can find someone (a professional) who does these 13:02:13 kaz: @@ 13:02:18 s/kaz: @@/ 13:03:10 i/I have/kaz: think we should think about this issue as an issue on missing guidelines for system integration or deployment. we can continue to work on that as part of the marketing work./ 13:03:50 i/think we/scribenick: kaz/ 13:04:06 i/have some/scribenick: Ege/ 13:04:27 [main call adjourned; no Plugfest call today but additional Testfest call on Friday] 13:04:33 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:04:33 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/06/16-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:05:21 ryuichi has joined #wot 13:36:19 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:36:19 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/06/16-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:36:21 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:36:21 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/06/16-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:50:02 dsr has joined #wot 13:58:05 dsr has joined #wot 14:06:32 Ege has joined #wot 15:12:10 Zakim has left #wot 15:26:40 dsr has joined #wot 16:06:39 dsr has joined #wot 16:24:50 dsr has joined #wot 16:50:27 dsr has joined #wot 17:07:04 dsr has joined #wot 17:24:30 dsr has joined #wot 18:07:11 dsr has joined #wot 18:24:49 dsr has joined #wot 18:42:36 dsr has joined #wot 19:15:25 dsr has joined #wot 19:31:23 dsr has joined #wot 19:50:47 dsr has joined #wot 21:02:23 dsr has joined #wot 23:04:49 dsr has joined #wot