17:45:32 RRSAgent has joined #waicc 17:45:32 logging to https://www.w3.org/2021/06/16-waicc-irc 17:45:34 RRSAgent, make logs public 17:45:34 Zakim has joined #waicc 17:45:36 Meeting: WAI Coordination Call Teleconference 17:45:36 Date: 16 June 2021 17:57:26 jeanne has joined #waicc 17:57:39 present+ 17:58:10 agenda? 17:58:49 agenda+ Scribe, rrsagent, agenda check, confirming next meeting JUNE 16. (Please add your present+ to IRC) 17:58:49 agenda+ Publication announcements? Any new/upcoming documents? https://www.w3.org/WAI/cc/wiki/WAI_Announcement_Drafts 17:58:49 agenda+ Input from Chairs & Facilitators to upcoming extended WAI team meeting on WAI priorities, workflow, updating vision 17:58:50 agenda+ Newer Task Force Facilitators, checking on orientation 17:58:50 agenda+ Brief update on arranging training on deaf culture, colleagues, interpreters, etc https://dspa.org/workshops-classes/ 17:58:52 agenda+ Continuing discussion on diversity within WAI: intersecting needs with older users 17:58:56 agenda+ AOB? 17:59:56 brentb has joined #waicc 18:00:39 present+ 18:01:06 present+ 18:03:41 present+ 18:04:34 Scribe: Brent 18:04:47 janina has joined #waicc 18:04:50 present+ 18:05:44 zakim, take up next item 18:05:45 agendum 1 -- Scribe, rrsagent, agenda check, confirming next meeting JUNE 16. (Please add your present+ to IRC) -- taken up [from Judy] 18:05:52 NEXT MEETING JUNE 30th 18:06:06 Judy: Any regrets? 18:06:19 Chris regrets for June 30th 18:06:33 zakim, take up next item 18:06:33 agendum 1 was just opened, Judy 18:06:40 zakim, close item 1 18:06:40 agendum 1, Scribe, rrsagent, agenda check, confirming next meeting JUNE 16. (Please add your present+ to IRC), closed 18:06:42 I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 18:06:42 2. Publication announcements? Any new/upcoming documents? https://www.w3.org/WAI/cc/wiki/WAI_Announcement_Drafts [from Judy] 18:06:44 zakim, take up next item 18:06:44 agendum 2 -- Publication announcements? Any new/upcoming documents? https://www.w3.org/WAI/cc/wiki/WAI_Announcement_Drafts -- taken up [from Judy] 18:07:09 Judy: Are there any new or upcoming documents or announcements. 18:07:12 q+ 18:08:23 ... Also, are any groups working on any new documents? 18:08:58 ... Update on Silver around status? 18:09:56 Jeanne: A proposal for standardizing various maturity models across the industry. How to have a maturity model for addressing WCAG. 18:10:52 Judy: Is it a maturity model, or trying to standardize across models? 18:11:59 Jeanne: It is a maturity model, can work for WCAG 2 or WCAG 3. Thinking about publishing as a W3C Note. 18:12:04 Judy: Timeline? 18:12:30 Jeanne: Hope to introduce as part of the August Heartbeat, or maybe later. 18:13:06 Judy: Need to be thinking of the fit and resources around this. 18:13:28 q+ re Synchronization 18:13:30 https://w3c.github.io/epub-specs/reports/eu-a11y-mapping/ 18:13:36 Tzviya: EPUB has not been adding documents / announcements to this. I will follow up on that. 18:14:55 EPUB Accessibility - EU Accessibility Act Mapping 18:15:30 ... EPUB creating a working group Note. Tight timeline on this. Need to be sure other groups are aware. 18:15:50 [JB Hi Shawn please be aware of the document that Tzviya just added a link to above. Tzviya has said that she will make sure that someone from her group adds it to the announcement planning list.] 18:16:05 Judy: Timeline? 18:17:04 Tzviya: Believe June is apporximate timeline. 18:18:03 Judy: Timeline is too tight to accomplish in 10 days. Will follow-up with you, to take a look at it and help with process. 18:18:33 q? 18:18:37 ack tzv 18:18:38 ack jan 18:18:38 janina, you wanted to discuss Synchronization 18:19:57 Janina: Our Task Force has been collecting data to move on a Note about media synchronization. Looking to push first published working draft by October - TPAC time. 18:20:29 Judy: Jeanne, would be good you are aware of this Note in terms of Silver (3.0). 18:21:13 Janina: Note will have more information on logistical numbers and other specs for media synchronization. 18:21:22 agenda? 18:21:38 zakim, take up next 18:21:38 agendum 3 -- Input from Chairs & Facilitators to upcoming extended WAI team meeting on WAI priorities, workflow, updating vision -- taken up [from Judy] 18:22:21 Judy: This item is informational with an invitation to chairs and facilitators. 18:23:19 q+ to note that the bots are still misbehaving re minutes 18:24:04 ... Would like some input about the WAI team meeting. Are their other agenda items that we should be including in the meetings? 18:24:50 [INPUT to WAI EXT Meeting -- misbehaving bots. - Janina] 18:25:10 [INPUT to WAI EXT Meeting -- new W3C Statement, process missing, no HR. - Janina] 18:25:34 jeanne has joined #waicc 18:25:57 q+ to laugh and say that I wanted to bring up Maturity Model for the staff meeting 18:26:11 Janina: Topic of the New Process for Notes. 18:26:37 [INPUT to WAI EXT Meeting -- coordination of research areas; re-examining utility of APIs in coming period. - Janina] 18:27:24 Judy: Regarding bots, please email Ralph when the bots are not working correctly. Please do this real time if you can. 18:28:23 ... When minutes are getting broken, the breakage needs to be communicated and documented so that it can be addressed. 18:29:30 Judy: Horizontal review issue. Please follow-up with me on which document didn't seem to have sufficient review so we can follow-up. 18:30:28 Judy: Re-examining utility of APIs. Can you look at the AOM in the next few weeks? 18:30:50 Janina: Can try by the 28th or the call after. 18:31:33 Jeanne: Wanted to bring up that the maturity model is something that the WAI staff could look at. 18:32:17 Judy: Other topics for the WAI team meeting? 18:33:09 Can't think of anything specific now. Will follow-up if something comes to mind. 18:33:16 zakim, take up next 18:33:16 I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, Judy 18:33:18 Chris: Nothing at this moment 18:33:26 q? 18:33:30 ack j 18:33:30 jeanne, you wanted to laugh and say that I wanted to bring up Maturity Model for the staff meeting 18:33:31 ack j 18:33:32 janina, you wanted to note that the bots are still misbehaving re minutes 18:33:36 zakim, take up next 18:33:36 agendum 4 -- Newer Task Force Facilitators, checking on orientation -- taken up [from Judy] 18:34:36 Judy: Across the WAI groups, we have several new task force facilitators. Are they receiving the orientation needed? 18:35:22 agenda? 18:35:44 Chris: From what I have access to, I have been working with Team contacts for most information needed. All in all nothing else is needed. Can't speak for other facilitator. 18:36:46 Judy: Jeanne, you mentioned that you thought you were not receiving system notices. Is that still the case? 18:36:55 I don't think I'm on the chairs list as well. At least I don't believe I am. Is there a particular alias I should be looking for? 18:37:08 Jeanne: Hard to say. I receive some notices, wouldn't know what I am missing. 18:37:56 Jeanne: Sometimes I don't know if notices are going to facilitators or to chairs. 18:38:46 Judy: Filed bug on improving system notices. [They] are working on some of this. I will add it back to action list to follow-up on. 18:38:48 agenda? 18:38:57 zakim, take up next 18:38:57 agendum 5 -- Brief update on arranging training on deaf culture, colleagues, interpreters, etc https://dspa.org/workshops-classes/ -- taken up [from Judy] 18:40:12 Judy: Previously, there has been interest in this group around workshops / training around deaf culture, colleagues, interpreters, etc. Looking at when to schedule some of these workshops. 18:40:43 zakim, take up next 18:40:44 agendum 6 -- Continuing discussion on diversity within WAI: intersecting needs with older users -- taken up [from Judy] 18:40:47 ... Most workshops are U.S. centric and W3C is not. Asking them to internationalize them. 18:42:24 q+ 18:42:55 Tzviya: This is one way I get people to care about accessibility. 18:42:58 s/Most workshops/Most of the DSPA workshops/ 18:43:21 ack tz 18:43:36 agenda? 18:44:01 ... All features are usually useful to all people. Even though it helps the aging population, it will support all users. 18:45:55 Jeanne: The groups working on cognitive related guidelines work on addressing this. Things like consistant navigation, captchas, etc. It is important and hope it will continue to be a big part of WCAG 3 18:47:09 kim_patch has joined #waicc 18:47:20 ... Not specifically addressing the elderly, it is more woven in. Not aware of any age related guidelines, but can address if it comes up. 18:47:22 scribe: jeanne 18:47:25 [INPUT TO WAI EXT MTG -- age-related aspects of WAI guidelines] 18:48:46 Brent: In all of our resources, we try to weave this in. We have personas. The WCAG Videos project, some of the people will be people with age-related issues. 18:49:23 Judy: Are we apprroaching things in the same way, or are there other things we should coordinate? 18:49:38 ... Andrew Arch had done specific work in the past. 18:49:57 FYI I see https://www.w3.org/WAI/older-users/changelog/ , https://www.w3.org/WAI/older-users/developing/ and https://www.w3.org/WAI/older-users/ based off of https://www.w3.org/WAI/search/?q=age 18:51:01 jb: what about accessibility for kids -- early stages of trying to coordinate? 18:51:06 Jeanne: Someone active in the Silver TF was interested in digging into this, looking for more people who were interested. 18:51:29 ... Asked her to look for user needs around this. 18:51:33 agenda? 18:52:51 zakim, take up next 18:52:51 agendum 7 -- AOB? -- taken up [from Judy] 18:53:04 Tzviya: Curious about where this [kids with disabilities] is coming from, and why different than other people with disabilities. 18:53:15 scribe:brentb 18:53:19 Judy: Assessment industry. 18:54:02 Judy: Chris, anything age related when it comes to low vision? 18:54:16 Chris: Yes working on adding in context. 18:54:52 Judy: Kim, Aged specific issues come up in mobile? Anything mapped directly to age specific content. 18:54:58 Kim: No, but noted. 18:55:28 Judy: Is there more specific messaging that should be added to WAI materials on this? If so bring it to my attention. 18:55:55 rrsagent, make minutes 18:55:55 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/06/16-waicc-minutes.html Judy 18:56:12 present+ 18:56:32 present+ 22:01:44 jeanne has joined #waicc 22:22:50 jeanne has joined #waicc