16:20:18 RRSAgent has joined #auto 16:20:18 logging to https://www.w3.org/2021/06/15-auto-irc 16:20:21 RRSAgent, make logs Public 16:20:22 Meeting: Automotive Working Group Teleconference 16:36:31 agenda+ Summer schedule 16:36:46 agenda+ Cfc VISSv2 FPWD 16:36:50 agenda+ Open issues 17:58:28 Present+ Ted 17:58:42 Chair: Peter, Ted 17:58:44 Present+ Ted 17:58:47 Present+ Peter 18:01:11 Present+ Ulf, Gunnar 18:04:40 Present+ Isaac 18:04:47 Present+ MagnusG 18:05:09 zakim, next agendum 18:05:09 agendum 1 -- Summer schedule -- taken up [from ted] 18:05:51 https://doodle.com/poll/d7a4rxscieta5f49?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link 18:05:57 Present+ Carine 18:05:59 scribenick: ted 18:09:18 Ted: per usual @@summer schedule 18:11:14 [Ulf shareS details on medical leave, 4-6 weeks, and participants wish him speedy recovery] 18:11:19 zakim, next agendum 18:11:19 agendum 2 -- Cfc VISSv2 FPWD -- taken up [from ted] 18:12:43 @@cfc_link 18:13:16 s/@@cfc_link/https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-automotive/2021Jun/0014.html 18:16:38 Ted explains the process and expectations 18:17:05 Ulf: appreciate starting the process, this is encouraging for me and all of us as it has been a group process 18:17:31 [Ulf is primary editor and written majority of the document, along with early contributions from Patrick L and Isaac] 18:17:48 Peter: it is important to move along 18:18:16 Present+ Adnan 18:19:41 zakim, next agendum 18:19:41 agendum 3 -- Open issues -- taken up [from ted] 18:21:34 https://github.com/w3c/automotive/issues/381 18:23:28 Ulf: capture is a grouping 18:25:06 Ted: in addition to the @@2 Ulf recommended, I think we should have time and change since they were part of VISSv1 18:25:13 Ulf: I agree based on that logic 18:26:49 Ted: I'll tag Erik and Sebastian to see if they have an opinon, won't change for FPWD but would be good to reach a conclusion 18:27:08 Gunnar: no strong opinion but curve and history are on my optional list 18:30:30 https://github.com/w3c/automotive/issues/382 18:31:04 Ulf: after the last meeting and learning that Bosch isn't specifying how the token is created, my own view is we could keep a common architecture for both 18:31:57 … my view is one architecture would be more difficult 18:34:36 Ted: or we have access grant server optional, you can create tokens in any manner @@bosch 18:35:01 Isaac: it would be worth showing multiple scenarios and how to handle grant server outside the vehicle 18:35:46 … as grant server is off the vehicle that makes sense 18:35:50 Ulf: agree with you 18:41:20 Ted: on high level we should be consistent with RPC as well, will ping Mangus F on that 18:41:47 Gunnar: I had an open question on key management but agree we should try to line those up - should be similar with RPC 18:42:08 … need to implement it and try it out 18:42:23 Ulf: I implemented in our reference implementation for VISSv2 18:43:37 Ted: we should do some hands on and get wider review from W3C security experts and elsewhere 18:44:30 Gunnar: raised with GENIVI security team and potential summer project for student to test out 18:44:53 … they are looking to review concrete proposal 18:48:21 s/shareS/shares/ 18:48:37 s/wish him/wish him a/ 18:49:30 s/per usual @@summer schedule/I sent out a doodle poll to see when people are planning to be away this summer and we should cancel calls/ 18:49:44 s/4-6 weeks/the next 4-6 weeks/ 18:51:20 s/@@2/Paths and static/ 18:51:43 s/Ulf recommended/Ulf recommended for mandatory list/ 18:52:04 s/opinon/opinion/ 18:52:32 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/06/15-auto-minutes.html ted