12:05:56 RRSAgent has joined #wot 12:05:56 logging to https://www.w3.org/2021/06/02-wot-irc 12:06:08 McCool has joined #wot 12:06:08 meeting: WoT-IG/WG 12:06:49 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Tomoaki_Mizushima 12:09:13 present+ Ege_Korkan 12:10:12 mjk has joined #wot 12:10:29 present+ Tetsushi_Matsuda 12:10:41 scribenick: mjk 12:11:05 topic: minutes review 12:11:22 matsuda has joined #wot 12:12:28 mm: created a presentation for marketing, waiting for review 12:14:10 mm: any objections to publish? 12:14:25 mm: no objections 12:14:34 topic: quick updates: 12:14:54 mm: charter expires at the end of June, need to recharter 12:15:23 mm: added a 15 inute slot to the F2F for charter resolution 12:15:30 s/inute/minute 12:16:42 mm: has a signing PR based on XML, still need to align with Linked Data Signatures 12:17:05 zkis has joined #wot 12:17:24 mm: Smart CIty WS on June 25th, mm prepared a presentation and updated based on feedback 12:18:14 mm: (review presentation briefly) 12:18:36 ... expecting 2 more presentations from Andrea and Sebastian 12:20:22 mm: testfest/plugfest call today, event starts next week and funs through the 18th 12:20:41 ... the goal is to get to a draft implementation report 12:21:43 mm: meetings will be cancelled next week except the Main call and Discovery 12:21:52 rrsagent, make log public 12:21:56 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:21:56 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/06/02-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:23:10 mm: F2F June 21-30 12:23:23 ... we are collecting topics 12:23:34 i|created a presen|-> https://www.w3.org/2021/05/26-wot-minutes.html May-26| 12:23:43 s/CIty/City/ 12:23:56 ... would like a report out from IETF/T2TRG 12:24:08 ... also OneDM and ITU-T 12:24:26 ... and OPC-UA 12:24:48 kaz: will check with Echonet 12:25:05 mm: IEC/ISO Common Data Dictionary 12:25:06 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:25:06 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/06/02-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:26:12 mm: are there any more major agenda topics? 12:26:31 Chair: McCool 12:26:46 mm: any other F2F discussion? 12:27:43 i|charter expires at|subtopic: Charter extension| 12:28:08 mm: check the Wiki for schedule and webex coordinates for the plugfest and F2F 12:28:25 topic: publication status 12:28:54 kaz: there is only one issue and MM has provided a PR and upudate 12:29:09 s/issue/issue with Change logs/ 12:30:03 i|has a signing|subtopic: LD Signatures| 12:30:17 mm: review the changes, which consist of adding a changelog and fixed a reference to the wot-discovery document 12:30:19 i|Smart City WS on|subtopic: Smart Cities WS| 12:31:04 mm: Any TD issues? 12:31:20 kaz: publication should be tomorrow 12:31:38 kaz: has already updated with MM changes 12:31:56 topic: Liaisons 12:32:09 mm: have we heard from ITU-T? 12:32:37 mm: will check the minutes and review the discussion 12:33:01 mm: Echonet updates? 12:33:08 kaz: no updates yet 12:33:55 mm: we planned to invite Echonet to the plugfest and F2F 12:35:16 dezell has joined #wot 12:35:25 present+ David_Ezell 12:36:28 matsukura-san: not sure if Echonet will participate this time, they are starting the use case discussion 12:36:41 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:36:41 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/06/02-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:36:53 mm: will follow up and check status next week 12:38:29 mm: IETF updates, T2TRG on June 21, WISHI call on June 7th, IETF 101 conflicts with F2F but no overlap 12:38:47 mm: the IETF Hackathon does conflict on some days 12:39:14 s/June 7/June 17 12:39:29 s/101/111 12:40:44 mm: will inform IETF about conflicts 12:41:10 mjk: there may be an SDF working session on the processing model at the IETF 111 Hackathon 12:41:17 s/matsukura-san/matsuda/ 12:41:36 (thanks!) 12:44:35 mjk: asdf interim today, a common topic may be extension schema mechanism 12:45:05 mm: let's collaborate on extensions, we have a directory use case in WoT 12:45:49 mm: Andrea has submitted a paper on WoT Discovery 12:45:56 topic: TF report out 12:46:33 i|testfest/plugfest call|subtopic: Testfest/Plugfest| 12:46:51 mm: security went over the signing proposal, reviewed signing algorithms, suggested 3 curves 12:46:59 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:46:59 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/06/02-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:47:31 mm: security experts call out short term and long term signatures, and the 256 length curves are only for short term 12:47:50 citrullin has joined #wot 12:47:51 mm: 512 length is needed for long term protection 12:48:15 mm: decided to add the 512 length curves 12:48:51 mm: there is a general opinion that the 384 length curves are not useful for either class of use case 12:48:51 s/with MM changes/with MM changes for WoT Discovery. so will publish it today./ 12:49:40 mm: question about whether to use newer curves or stick with JWS 12:50:26 mm: discovery had a discussion about the refactoring work, accepted Ben's PR 12:51:26 mm: still have a question whether TM is included as normative or informative 12:52:22 ... discovery is behind schedule 12:52:48 ... not ready to enter the 2 week review 12:53:34 ege: marketing discussed the workshops, reviewed MM presentation draft, tweeted about the testfest 12:53:59 Ege has joined #wot 12:54:09 ... Note that the deadline for the API conference is coming up, can we review the proposals? 12:54:43 ... issue #163 12:55:29 mm: we need to mention thingmodel by name in the abstract 12:55:42 mm: looks good, any other comments? 12:56:24 mm: there is a Directory API and a discovery process, but not a "DIscovery API" 12:56:48 ege: will update with the new PR references before submitting 12:57:17 i|we need to mention|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/163 wot-marketing issue 163 - API Specification Conference 2021| 12:57:38 mm: no objections, go ahead and submit them after the updates 12:57:57 q+ to mention wot-discovery has been published at: https://www.w3.org/TR/2021/WD-wot-discovery-20210602/ 12:58:56 kaz: calls cancelled tomorrow (Thursday) due to the holiday 12:59:04 q? 12:59:18 ack k 12:59:18 kaz, you wanted to mention wot-discovery has been published at: https://www.w3.org/TR/2021/WD-wot-discovery-20210602/ 12:59:38 kaz: discovery is now published 13:00:07 [main call adjourned; Testfest call in 5mins] 13:00:11 mm: adjourn, 5 minute break to testfest 13:00:17 s/[main call adjourned; Testfest call in 5mins]// 13:00:27 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:00:27 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/06/02-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:53:25 Mizushima has left #wot 14:12:53 zkis has joined #wot 14:12:55 dsr has joined #wot 15:21:38 Zakim has left #wot 16:11:11 dsr has joined #wot 16:35:39 dsr has joined #wot 16:56:06 dsr has joined #wot 17:32:06 kaz has joined #wot 17:37:14 dsr has joined #wot 18:39:39 dsr has joined #wot 19:13:04 dsr has joined #wot 19:42:39 dsr has joined #wot 20:14:40 dsr has joined #wot 20:43:43 dsr has joined #wot 21:00:58 dsr has joined #wot 21:46:22 dsr has joined #wot 23:47:25 dsr has joined #wot