IRC log of wot on 2021-06-02

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12:06:08 [kaz]
meeting: WoT-IG/WG
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present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Tomoaki_Mizushima
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present+ Ege_Korkan
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present+ Tetsushi_Matsuda
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scribenick: mjk
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topic: minutes review
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mm: created a presentation for marketing, waiting for review
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mm: any objections to publish?
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mm: no objections
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topic: quick updates:
12:14:54 [mjk]
mm: charter expires at the end of June, need to recharter
12:15:23 [mjk]
mm: added a 15 inute slot to the F2F for charter resolution
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mm: has a signing PR based on XML, still need to align with Linked Data Signatures
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mm: Smart CIty WS on June 25th, mm prepared a presentation and updated based on feedback
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mm: (review presentation briefly)
12:18:36 [mjk]
... expecting 2 more presentations from Andrea and Sebastian
12:20:22 [mjk]
mm: testfest/plugfest call today, event starts next week and funs through the 18th
12:20:41 [mjk]
... the goal is to get to a draft implementation report
12:21:43 [mjk]
mm: meetings will be cancelled next week except the Main call and Discovery
12:21:52 [kaz]
rrsagent, make log public
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate kaz
12:23:10 [mjk]
mm: F2F June 21-30
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... we are collecting topics
12:23:34 [kaz]
i|created a presen|-> May-26|
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12:23:56 [mjk]
... would like a report out from IETF/T2TRG
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... also OneDM and ITU-T
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... and OPC-UA
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kaz: will check with Echonet
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mm: IEC/ISO Common Data Dictionary
12:25:06 [kaz]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate kaz
12:26:12 [mjk]
mm: are there any more major agenda topics?
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Chair: McCool
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mm: any other F2F discussion?
12:27:43 [kaz]
i|charter expires at|subtopic: Charter extension|
12:28:08 [mjk]
mm: check the Wiki for schedule and webex coordinates for the plugfest and F2F
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topic: publication status
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kaz: there is only one issue and MM has provided a PR and upudate
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s/issue/issue with Change logs/
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i|has a signing|subtopic: LD Signatures|
12:30:17 [mjk]
mm: review the changes, which consist of adding a changelog and fixed a reference to the wot-discovery document
12:30:19 [kaz]
i|Smart City WS on|subtopic: Smart Cities WS|
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mm: Any TD issues?
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kaz: publication should be tomorrow
12:31:38 [mjk]
kaz: has already updated with MM changes
12:31:56 [mjk]
topic: Liaisons
12:32:09 [mjk]
mm: have we heard from ITU-T?
12:32:37 [mjk]
mm: will check the minutes and review the discussion
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mm: Echonet updates?
12:33:08 [mjk]
kaz: no updates yet
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mm: we planned to invite Echonet to the plugfest and F2F
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present+ David_Ezell
12:36:28 [mjk]
matsukura-san: not sure if Echonet will participate this time, they are starting the use case discussion
12:36:41 [kaz]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate kaz
12:36:53 [mjk]
mm: will follow up and check status next week
12:38:29 [mjk]
mm: IETF updates, T2TRG on June 21, WISHI call on June 7th, IETF 101 conflicts with F2F but no overlap
12:38:47 [mjk]
mm: the IETF Hackathon does conflict on some days
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s/June 7/June 17
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mm: will inform IETF about conflicts
12:41:10 [mjk]
mjk: there may be an SDF working session on the processing model at the IETF 111 Hackathon
12:41:17 [matsuda]
12:41:36 [mjk]
12:44:35 [mjk]
mjk: asdf interim today, a common topic may be extension schema mechanism
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mm: let's collaborate on extensions, we have a directory use case in WoT
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mm: Andrea has submitted a paper on WoT Discovery
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topic: TF report out
12:46:33 [kaz]
i|testfest/plugfest call|subtopic: Testfest/Plugfest|
12:46:51 [mjk]
mm: security went over the signing proposal, reviewed signing algorithms, suggested 3 curves
12:46:59 [kaz]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate kaz
12:47:31 [mjk]
mm: security experts call out short term and long term signatures, and the 256 length curves are only for short term
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mm: 512 length is needed for long term protection
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mm: decided to add the 512 length curves
12:48:51 [mjk]
mm: there is a general opinion that the 384 length curves are not useful for either class of use case
12:48:51 [kaz]
s/with MM changes/with MM changes for WoT Discovery. so will publish it today./
12:49:40 [mjk]
mm: question about whether to use newer curves or stick with JWS
12:50:26 [mjk]
mm: discovery had a discussion about the refactoring work, accepted Ben's PR
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mm: still have a question whether TM is included as normative or informative
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... discovery is behind schedule
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... not ready to enter the 2 week review
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ege: marketing discussed the workshops, reviewed MM presentation draft, tweeted about the testfest
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12:54:09 [mjk]
... Note that the deadline for the API conference is coming up, can we review the proposals?
12:54:43 [mjk]
... issue #163
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mm: we need to mention thingmodel by name in the abstract
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mm: looks good, any other comments?
12:56:24 [mjk]
mm: there is a Directory API and a discovery process, but not a "DIscovery API"
12:56:48 [mjk]
ege: will update with the new PR references before submitting
12:57:17 [kaz]
i|we need to mention|-> wot-marketing issue 163 - API Specification Conference 2021|
12:57:38 [mjk]
mm: no objections, go ahead and submit them after the updates
12:57:57 [kaz]
q+ to mention wot-discovery has been published at:
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kaz: calls cancelled tomorrow (Thursday) due to the holiday
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12:59:18 [kaz]
ack k
12:59:18 [Zakim]
kaz, you wanted to mention wot-discovery has been published at:
12:59:38 [mjk]
kaz: discovery is now published
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[main call adjourned; Testfest call in 5mins]
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mm: adjourn, 5 minute break to testfest
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s/[main call adjourned; Testfest call in 5mins]//
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