IRC log of apa on 2021-06-02
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- Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 02 June 2021
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- agenda?
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- Chair:Becky
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- agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements;
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- agenda+ TPAC Planning https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2021/GroupMeetings
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- agenda+ Task Force Updates;
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- agenda+ FAST Progress
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- agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
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- agenda+Horizontal Review Issues Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
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- agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
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- agenda+ CSS Update (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
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- agenda+Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
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- agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
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- agenda+ Other Business
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- agenda+ be done
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- agenda?
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- present+
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- chair: Becky
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- present+
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- present+
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- agenda?
- 16:01:20 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- present+
- 16:01:27 [JF]
- Present+
- 16:01:32 [janina]
- present+
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- present+
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- present+
- 16:02:11 [paul_grenier]
- scribe: paul_grenier
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- zakim, who is here?
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- Present: becky, paul_grenier, Fazio, Lionel_Wolberger, JF, janina, Fredrik, amy_c
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- On IRC I see amy_c, Fredrik, JF, Fazio, Zakim, RRSAgent, becky, Lionel_Wolberger, stevelee, paul_grenier, jamesn, jasonjgw, janina, ZoeBijl, Rachael, tink, slightlyoff, manu, ada,
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- ... MichaelC, trackbot
- 16:02:28 [paul_grenier]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements; -- taken up [from becky]
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2 -- TPAC Planning https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2021/GroupMeetings -- taken up [from becky]
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- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2021
- 16:04:10 [paul_grenier]
- becky: hopefully your WG meetings has started to discuss TPAC meetings
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- 16:04:18 [janina]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2021
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- present+
- 16:05:04 [paul_grenier]
- becky: the sooner the better as it helps with planning and arranging meetings with groups that should meet. Are there any teams APA should consider meeting?
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- becky: TPAC is virtual again this year
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 3 -- Task Force Updates; -- taken up [from becky]
- 16:06:16 [paul_grenier]
- becky: Personalization didn't meet this week
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- janina: synchronization requirements rejected SAUR acronym
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- 16:07:47 [paul_grenier]
- janina: research questions has been looking into the literature for tolerances between types of media. It's going to be helpful to several groups.
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- janina: pronunciation has a presentation accepted for Denver and we're getting some comments, looking for more reviews
- 16:09:13 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- Lionel very eager to read that research that Janina mentioned
- 16:09:24 [joconnor]
- q+
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- ack me
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- s/synchronization requirements rejected SAUR acronym/synchronization accepts rejected SAUR acronym
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- Here is the initial request https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2021May/0015.html
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- present+
- 16:12:14 [paul_grenier]
- Fazio: we're looking at the COGA requirements and we see cases for COGA benefits as well that aren't mentioned, should we call that out
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- joconnor: we encourage the feedback, looking forward to it
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 4 -- FAST Progress -- taken up [from becky]
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- s/synchronization accepts rejected SAUR acronym/synchronization accepts SAUR acronym
- 16:13:22 [paul_grenier]
- MichaelC: the list of needs it ready for survey
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- MichaelC: next up is the checklist
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- MichaelC: members of AG are helping
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 5 -- New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 -- taken up [from becky]
- 16:14:36 [paul_grenier]
- MichaelC: no new charters
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- janina: I need to bring up the devices and sensors charter
- 16:15:08 [paul_grenier]
- MichaelC: RQTF was going to get back on that
- 16:15:41 [paul_grenier]
- janina: we have a concern in the new deliverables, an API for contact info, we need to make sure they get the UI right for accessibility
- 16:16:34 [paul_grenier]
- MichaelC: the contact picker API does seem to be out of scope, we could comment that
- 16:17:11 [paul_grenier]
- MichaelC: it may be better as part of web platform and needs more accessibility review
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- janina: we could mention it, it would trigger a need for a liason to APA
- 16:18:43 [becky]
- q?
- 16:18:55 [paul_grenier]
- Lionel_Wolberger: the API doesn't seem to require a UI on first reading
- 16:19:57 [paul_grenier]
- Lionel_Wolberger: they say it plays a role in social graphs
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- becky: we're trying to understand the relationship to device/sensor
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- MichaelC: contacts is a software feature and therefore I believe belongs in web platform
- 16:22:06 [paul_grenier]
- Lionel_Wolberger: the examples point to data use only
- 16:22:22 [paul_grenier]
- MichaelC: *reads draft statement*
- 16:23:09 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- +1
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- becky: any objections?
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 6 -- Horizontal Review Issues Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review -- taken up [from becky]
- 16:24:53 [MichaelC]
- In APA review, the group wonders if the Contact Picker API is in scope of the WG, which otherwise focuses on APIs for specific hardware features. It seems that API might be more suited to the Web Platform Working Group (or whatever it is currently named). APA thinks this API would have more user interface implication than the other APIs. If this is in the charter, API requests to be included as a liaison in section 4.1, with text like "Coordinate on
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- accessibility of user interface features implied by the APIs".
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- https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/6319
- 16:27:54 [paul_grenier]
- MichaelC: we can track and put in a pointer to the new wcag 3 color contrast ratios
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- https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/6283
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- https://github.com/mfreed7/csswg-drafts/commit/5ee55cb0ac1185025ff35e068e31b456343061c3
- 16:29:37 [paul_grenier]
- becky: we can sign off
- 16:30:10 [MichaelC]
- https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/5678
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- 16:31:53 [paul_grenier]
- we can close our issue, theirs is already closed
- 16:32:25 [MichaelC]
- https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/4
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- MichaelC: horizontal review request
- 16:33:28 [MichaelC]
- https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/5
- 16:35:00 [paul_grenier]
- MichaelC: no comment on either
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 7 -- new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from becky]
- 16:35:38 [MichaelC]
- -> https://www.w3.org/TR/wot-discovery/ Web of Things (WoT) Discovery
- 16:37:08 [Fredrik]
- Seconding Paul!
- 16:38:29 [paul_grenier]
- sure I'll review this for accessibility considerations
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 8 -- CSS Update (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues -- taken up [from becky]
- 16:39:45 [amy_c]
- https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/3#issuecomment-848938568
- 16:39:58 [amy_c]
- https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues/36
- 16:40:18 [paul_grenier]
- amy_c: this was already reviewed in January, I didn't find any issues
- 16:42:10 [amy_c]
- https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues/17
- 16:43:06 [paul_grenier]
- amy_c: we commented about font icons should have alt text, they changed to "should" language with an example of the printer character
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- 16:52:42 [JF]
- Q+
- 16:53:03 [becky]
- ack jf
- 16:53:23 [paul_grenier]
- there's a preference order of these techniques, I'd like to see that in the description
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- amy_c: we can collaborate on the response (with Paul G)
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 9 -- Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned -- taken up [from becky]
- 16:56:21 [paul_grenier]
- janina: I thought was Lionel_Wolberger was doing is right on. There's a little bit of terminology clash between the way we talk about audio descriptions in the MAUR. I'd want to suggest we update that. I can send you the info.
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- q?
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- q+
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- ack me
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- WebXr Layer https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2021May/0040.html
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- https://www.w3.org/TR/webxrlayers-1/
- 17:00:20 [paul_grenier]
- joconnor: there are so many components and parts of the stack and I suggest if we have any concerns we should be tracking it
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- RRSAgent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/06/02-apa-minutes.html paul_grenier
- 17:01:20 [Fredrik]
- Thanks for a good meeting! Have a good week!
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- present+