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12:01:55 <kaz> meeting: WoT-IG/WG
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12:02:21 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Andrea_Cimmino, Ege_Korkan, Daniel_Peintner, Kuniiko_Toumura, Michal_McCool
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12:04:37 <kaz> scribenick: McCool
12:05:09 <McCool> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#26_May_2021
12:05:24 <McCool> seb: seems to be no guests today
12:05:36 <McCool> topic: invited expert application
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12:06:05 <kaz> present+ Cristiano_Aguzzi, Tomoaki_Mizushima
12:06:09 <McCool> seb: thomas jaekle, replacing kevin otolo
12:06:21 <kaz> present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch
12:06:37 <McCool> ... bosch io, to continue work on model implementation and products
12:06:41 <kaz> i/seems/topic: guests/
12:06:52 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:07:02 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:07:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/05/26-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:07:53 <McCool> mm: this is fine, but application needs to be updated to document bosch io affiliation
12:08:15 <McCool> kaz: we can accept, he can try to update, if there is a problem, we can ask w3m to contact him
12:08:22 <McCool> topic: prev minutes
12:08:31 <McCool> https://www.w3.org/2021/05/19-wot-minutes.html
12:09:35 <McCool> seb: signatures, update on that today; updates on smart cities (discussed in marketing, more today); testfest and f2f planning; publications;
12:10:02 <McCool> ... resolutions taken on some last-minute (informative) updates to the TD draft
12:10:21 <McCool> ... change log and abstract
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12:10:31 <McCool> ... then a resolution to publish the updated version
12:11:02 <McCool> ... use case doc publication still in process; liaison discussion; quick TF updates
12:11:19 <McCool> seb: any updates needed to the minutes?
12:11:43 <McCool> seb: hearing no objections, these will be published
12:11:50 <McCool> topic: quick updates
12:12:06 <McCool> seb: first, our IG charter runs out June 30, need to recharter
12:12:23 <McCool> ... so we will do an extension for 3mos, will prepare a new charter
12:13:35 <kaz> present+ Michael_Koster, Ryuichi_Matsukura
12:14:39 <McCool> mm: note that draft will be here: https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/charters/wg-ig-2021-proposed.html
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12:16:50 <McCool> seb: also, signatures
12:17:04 <McCool> mm: yes, based on XML signatures and JSON processing
12:17:15 <McCool> ... in the long run, I think this can be complementary to LDS
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12:17:25 <McCool> topic: smart cities
12:17:27 <kaz> present+ Tetsushi_Matsuda
12:17:32 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:17:36 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:17:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/05/26-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:18:01 <McCool> seb: three pres, but only 5m each, want to avoid redundancy
12:18:56 <McCool> mm: note in particular that I will cover the basics, others can address extensions and applications
12:19:12 <McCool> ... we can review drafts in the marketing call next week
12:19:49 <McCool> andrea: will look at how these technologies can be applied to communities, incl. hybrid (rural/urban)
12:19:49 <kaz> q+
12:20:09 <McCool> seb: we will be talking about tooling
12:22:14 <McCool> andrea: I also want to mention we plan to talk about discovery in an upcoming conference
12:23:19 <kaz> ack k
12:23:29 <kaz> Chair: Sebastian/McCool
12:23:34 <McCool> topic: testfest
12:24:05 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_June_2021#Testfest Testfest wiki
12:24:44 <McCool> mm: we should talk about what meetings can be cancelled
12:24:57 <McCool> seb: would be better if we concentrate on testfests
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12:26:33 <kaz> q+
12:26:38 <McCool> mm: so... for discovery, perhaps should focus on testing, even if it puts the spec behind schedule
12:27:47 <McCool> kaz: one exception, have brief main call to synchronize people
12:27:57 <kaz> ack k
12:28:30 <McCool> topic: f2f
12:28:57 <McCool> seb: still filling in topics
12:29:43 <kaz> i|still|->https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_June_2021#Virtual_F2F vF2F wiki|
12:30:07 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_June_2021#Proposed_Topics Proposed topics
12:30:34 <McCool> mm: important that we fill in time estimates, each TF should do
12:30:51 <McCool> ... also allocated 2h to discuss testing results so we can figure out how to address gaps
12:31:01 <McCool> topic: publications
12:31:14 <McCool> seb: TD update will be out next week June 1
12:32:18 <McCool> topic: liaisons
12:32:38 <McCool> IETF T2TRG, summary planned for June 17/21/22; doodle ongoing
12:32:56 <McCool> mm: should not conflict with F2F, either Seb or I will join and give WoT update
12:33:06 <McCool> topic: workshop
12:33:29 <McCool> andrea: workshop on iot conference, on discovery
12:33:47 <McCool> ... and we would of course cover wot, but would not limit the workshop to that
12:34:13 <McCool> ... would like blessing, and also check for overlaps
12:34:47 <kaz> s/topic: workshop/topic: workshop at the IoT Conference/
12:36:19 <kaz> q+
12:37:03 <kaz> -> https://iot-conference.org/iot2021/call-for-workshops/ call for workshop page
12:37:14 <kaz> kaz: a bit confused
12:37:25 <kaz> ... so you're organizing a workshop on WoT discovery?
12:37:33 <kaz> andrea: yes
12:37:56 <kaz> kaz: so we should look at the call for workshops page above
12:40:45 <kaz> ... Andrea, could you generate a draft proposal and send it to the WoT groups?
12:40:46 <McCool> andrea: I will send a draft proposal out by email and ask for feedback
12:40:58 <kaz> i/a bit/scribenick: kaz/
12:41:07 <kaz> i/will send/scribeick: McCool/
12:42:00 <McCool> topic: tfs
12:42:13 <McCool> scripting no call, holiday
12:44:02 <Ege> q+
12:44:09 <kaz> ack k
12:47:11 <McCool> discovery: need to make a decision about API restructuring... please review prs etc and comment
12:47:30 <McCool> marketing: captions are done, in multiple languages, for animation
12:47:48 <McCool> ... also, td wiki page is now accepted and updated, finally
12:49:47 <McCool> mm: do think we need to update the web of things wiki page too, and eventually need to cover discovery, etc.
12:50:16 <kaz> s/td wiki/TD wiki/
12:50:59 <McCool> seb: also discussed various conferences and talks coming up
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12:51:41 <McCool> ... please see marketing agenda for a list
12:55:23 <McCool> use cases: discussed cultural space
12:57:29 <McCool> testfest: working on metadata for implementation report; added some details around discovery
12:59:29 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2021/05/20-wot-arch-minutes.html May-20 Architecture call
13:02:03 <kaz> [main cal adjourned; testfest starts at 10mins past the hour]
13:02:08 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:02:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/05/26-wot-minutes.html kaz
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