14:02:39 RRSAgent has joined #wot-discovery 14:02:39 logging to https://www.w3.org/2021/05/24-wot-discovery-irc 14:02:47 meeting: WoT Discovery 14:03:18 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Andrea_Cimmino, Ben_Francis, Ege_Korkan, Farshid_Tavakoizadeh, Michael_McCool 14:03:29 McCool has joined #wot-discovery 14:04:46 Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Discovery_WebConf#24_May_2021 14:04:58 present+ Kunihiko_Toumura 14:05:10 ktoumura has joined #wot-discovery 14:05:35 cris has joined #wot-discovery 14:06:48 present+ Cristiano_Aguzzi 14:07:47 FarshidT has joined #wot-discovery 14:08:29 Ege has joined #wot-discovery 14:08:32 scribenick: Ege 14:08:53 Topic: Minutes Review 14:09:16 -> https://www.w3.org/2021/05/17-wot-discovery-minutes.html May-17 14:11:47 mm: any objections? 14:12:39 mm: Update on the publication 14:12:57 ... we should talk about the discovery slot in the F2F 14:14:17 i/Update on/topic: Publication/ 14:15:00 -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_June_2021#Proposed_Topics Proposed Topics within the vF2F agenda 14:18:42 mm: (edits the agenda with the relevant topics) 14:20:52 Topic: PRs 14:23:53 mm: what order should we do these? 14:24:06 rrsagent, make log team 14:24:08 ft: the top two are easy 14:24:13 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:24:13 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/05/24-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz 14:25:05 rrsagent, make log public 14:25:07 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:25:07 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/05/24-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz 14:25:27 Chair: McCool 14:25:30 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:25:30 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/05/24-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz 14:25:50 bf: the third one influences the other ones 14:26:23 bf: indepently, with Ege, we seemed to have reachted the conclusion that the TD is not needed 14:26:57 i|the third one|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/179 PR 179 - Replace interaction affordances in directory TD with a single link to its API endpoint| 14:27:13 mm: we have two uses for it, using @type to detect Thing or TDD 14:28:02 bf: we replace the TD that had all the affordances with a link 14:29:08 ... an advanced consumer would use the specification (human readable version) 14:30:55 ... one question is the events 14:31:54 mm: we can still add affordance 14:33:34 bf: it proved difficult to describe everything in a TD 14:35:19 bf: so we should do that out of band 14:36:01 bf: why do we need the API to be protocol agnostic? we can make a new API for another protocol later on 14:37:13 ege: In my issue, I did not mean that it should be protocol agnostic but what are the important parts of the API so that another protocol could also pay attention to that 14:37:55 q? 14:38:42 mm: let's ask for opinions 14:42:03 andrea: I feel that it will make it difficult for features like search 14:43:17 ft: but how do we find other endpoints 14:45:31 andrea: we are not removing the affordances by moving them to the uri variables 14:56:47 i|In my issue|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/178 Issue 178 - Review Comments from Ege Korkan| 14:56:47 ca: we should pay attention to the fact that security does not apply to the links 14:57:51 mm: that is true, can you open an issue in the TD spec 15:00:04 ege: we can also move it from links to a property 15:00:56 mm: There is also Issue 178 15:01:30 mm: There is a philosophical discussion whether TDD is a Thing or not 15:01:46 mm: Intel's motivation is to do mashups of Things and Services 15:04:22 ca: I think that TDD service is a very important part of the WoT 15:05:14 bf: I don't think it makes sense to try to describe any service in a TD 15:05:54 bf: by removing the TDD TD for now, we can solve the describing collection related issues in the meantime and have a TD for TDD later 15:16:26 rrsagent, draft minutes 15:16:26 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/05/24-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz 15:20:09 present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima 15:20:11 rrsagent, draft minutes 15:20:11 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/05/24-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz 15:34:45 (sorry I have forgotten to take minutes for the last 15 mins) but the discussions are documented by mm at Issue 178 15:35:29 mm: https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/178#issuecomment-847126523 15:37:10 btw I also agree that we should really be careful to not create a bad designed TD, but I think the propose refactors would improve the situation 15:38:45 s/mm: https:/-> https:/ 15:39:08 s/26523/26523 McCool;s comments on Issue 178/ 15:39:11 rrsagent, draft minutes 15:39:11 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/05/24-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz 15:51:34 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/158 PR 158 - Combine properties into a single things property 15:59:48 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/158#issuecomment-847146156 McCool's comments 16:01:07 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/160 PR 160 - Rename actions to match properties and events 16:01:59 mm: we do not have time left to work on the issues 16:02:52 ... I suggest that people continue commenting on the issue 178 16:03:05 https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/178 16:04:26 [adjourned] 16:04:32 rrsagent, draft minutes 16:04:32 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/05/24-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz