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13:10:40 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
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13:10:42 <trackbot> Meeting: Spoken Pronunciation Task Force Teleconference
13:10:42 <trackbot> Date: 19 May 2021
13:10:43 <paul_grenier> zakim, agenda?
13:10:43 <Zakim> I see nothing on the agenda
13:10:49 <paul_grenier> Agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
13:10:52 <paul_grenier> Agenda+ FPWD Feedback
13:10:55 <paul_grenier> Agenda+ Review Action Items
13:10:58 <paul_grenier> Agenda+ Other Business
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13:56:02 <JF> agenda?
13:56:30 <JF> Present+
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13:57:36 <paul_grenier> present+
13:58:36 <Irfan_> zakim, agenda?
13:58:36 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda:
13:58:37 <Zakim> 1. Agenda Review & Announcements [from paul_grenier]
13:58:37 <Zakim> 2. FPWD Feedback [from paul_grenier]
13:58:37 <Zakim> 3. Review Action Items [from paul_grenier]
13:58:37 <Zakim> 4. Other Business [from paul_grenier]
13:58:46 <Irfan_> present+
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14:02:06 <Dee> present+
14:02:07 <Irfan_> zakim, who is here?
14:02:07 <Zakim> Present: JF, paul_grenier, Irfan_, ADR, Dee
14:02:09 <Zakim> On IRC I see Dee, mhakkinen, ADR, Irfan_, JF, Zakim, RRSAgent, Roy, paul_grenier, MichaelC, trackbot
14:02:24 <Roy> present+
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14:07:02 <paul_grenier> scribe: paul_grenier
14:07:07 <paul_grenier> chair: Irfan_
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14:07:16 <paul_grenier> zakim, take up next item
14:07:16 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from paul_grenier]
14:07:18 <janina> present+
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14:07:55 <paul_grenier> Irfan_: FPWD is out, feedback is coming. Any agenda additions?
14:08:19 <paul_grenier> JF: my action item, I was supposed to get back to accessing higher ground yesterday but we dropped the ball
14:08:45 <paul_grenier> Irfan_: thank you for the work on the wiki, we can have a detailed discussion when we review the action
14:08:51 <paul_grenier> zakim, take up next item
14:08:51 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- FPWD Feedback -- taken up [from paul_grenier]
14:09:22 <paul_grenier> Irfan_: some feedback went to the apa list it will be sent to pronunciation or preferably github
14:10:15 <paul_grenier> janina: it's important that our contacts in the community and industry give us feedback, especially in the engineering spaces, by June 18
14:10:50 <paul_grenier> janina: we need to be proactive in our outreach efforts, not just an accessibility technology. Presenting at conferences will help.
14:11:12 <JF> Q+
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14:13:03 <Irfan_> ack JF
14:14:46 <JF> As a preference, I like the in-line approach as mixing XML and JSON never seems to end well (as the W3C document discusses). That said, I don’t think any reservations there would overcome pervading requirements from clients asking for this. Or rather, for requirements set by where the content will be viewed (indeed, “read” in this context). Content validation would be easier with an embedded SSML model, but not insurmountable via JSON path. [CUT]
14:15:29 <JF> Content validation would be easier with an embedded SSML model, but not insurmountable via JSON path. Similar for epub generation.  Summary: could go either way, but as noted, with a (historical) preference for not mixing JSON into an XML workflow.
14:16:44 <paul_grenier> JF: I'll work on making this feedback public
14:18:33 <paul_grenier> mhakkinen: I'm drafting an email for Speech Technology magazine
14:19:17 <paul_grenier> paul_grenier: I posted the FPWD to web-a11y.slack
14:19:43 <paul_grenier> alan: I heared feedback about the JSON being less favorable
14:19:54 <paul_grenier> zakim, take up next item
14:19:54 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Review Action Items -- taken up [from paul_grenier]
14:20:07 <paul_grenier> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/pronunciation/track/actions/open
14:20:58 <Roy> close action-23
14:20:58 <trackbot> Closed action-23.
14:23:47 <paul_grenier> paul_grenier: I uploaded a template for our presentations to the github repo
14:24:19 <JF> https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/wiki/Socialization
14:24:58 <paul_grenier> JF: we're missing deadlines. We'll need to move quickly to meet some of these dates.
14:33:25 <paul_grenier> Irfan_: I'll create a wiki page to collaborate
14:34:44 <paul_grenier> zakim, take up next item
14:34:44 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Other Business -- taken up [from paul_grenier]
14:35:40 <paul_grenier> Irfan_: what's the plan moving forward
14:35:51 <paul_grenier> janina: we have to wait for June 18 to make any decisions
14:36:28 <paul_grenier> janina: hopefully we get enough feedback by then to make decisions on updating the working draft and move toward normative language
14:38:48 <paul_grenier> RRSAgent, make logs public
14:38:52 <paul_grenier> RRSAgent, make minutes
14:38:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/05/19-pronunciation-minutes.html paul_grenier
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