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13:54:12 <Ian> Meeting: Web Payments Working Group
13:54:31 <Ian> Agenda: https://github.com/w3c/webpayments/wiki/Agenda-20210513
13:54:34 <Ian> Scribe: Ian
13:54:49 <Ian> Chair: Nick
13:55:42 <Ian> agenda+ PR API Update
13:55:45 <Ian> agenda+ SPC Update
13:55:51 <Ian> agenda+ Rechartering Schedule
13:55:54 <Ian> agenda+ TPAC 2021
13:58:18 <Ian> present+
13:58:52 <Ian> present+ Nick_Telford-Reed
13:59:35 <Ian> present+ Clinton_Allen
13:59:50 <Ian> present+ Stephen_McGruer
13:59:55 <Ian> present+ Werner_Bruinings
14:01:18 <Ian> present+ Amy_Slack
14:01:19 <Ian> present+ Chris_Dee
14:01:22 <Ian> present+ Erhard_Brand
14:01:45 <benoit> present+
14:01:48 <Ian> present+ David_Benoit
14:01:53 <Ian> present+ Gavin_Shenker
14:02:19 <Gavin> Gavin has joined #WPWG
14:02:24 <nicktr> q?
14:02:28 <nicktr> zakim, who is here?
14:02:28 <Zakim> Present: Ian, Nick_Telford-Reed, Clinton_Allen, Stephen_McGruer, Werner_Bruinings, Amy_Slack, Chris_Dee, Erhard_Brand, benoit, David_Benoit, Gavin_Shenker
14:02:31 <Zakim> On IRC I see Gavin, RRSAgent, Zakim, dlehn1, pea13, canton_, hober, wseltzer, mkwst, AdrianHB, yoav, jeffh, hadleybeeman, Joshue108, tobie, manu, Ian, slightlyoff, Travis_,
14:02:31 <Zakim> ... falken_, ntelford, dlongley, nicktr, smcgruer_[EST], benoit, rowan_m
14:02:35 <Ian> present+ Fawad_Nisar
14:02:55 <Ian> present+ Jonathan_Grossar
14:03:04 <Ian> zakim, take up item 1
14:03:05 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- PR API Update -- taken up [from Ian]
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14:03:11 <nicktr> scribenick: nicktr
14:03:21 <nicktr> ian: today is a planning day
14:03:24 <jonathan> present+
14:03:27 <nicktr> ...starting with Payment request
14:03:43 <nicktr> ...we are nearly ready to go back through "candidate recommendation"
14:03:57 <Gerhard> Gerhard has joined #wpwg
14:04:02 <nicktr> ...we are nearly done with the I18N comments
14:04:16 <nicktr> ...we are considering whether to remove modifiers
14:04:40 <Ian> present+ Gerhard_Oosthuizen
14:04:47 <nicktr> stephen: I didn't quite follow Marco's comments
14:04:49 <Ian> present+ Gustav_Kok
14:05:09 <Ian> -> https://github.com/w3c/payment-request/pull/957 pr 957
14:05:22 <nicktr> ian: let's go the pull request -> https://github.com/w3c/payment-request/pull/956
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14:06:39 <nicktr> stephen: I think we need to look at this in more detail, if it requires changes to the Chrome/GPay implementation
14:07:03 <nicktr> ian: I'm hearing "breaking shipped code" is not a great idea
14:07:09 <Ian> https://github.com/w3c/payment-request/wiki/REC_2020_Plan
14:07:21 <nicktr> ian: with that we have a tentative timeline
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14:07:51 <nicktr> ...if we started a CFC on Monday (which may be too ambitious) we'd be done by mid August
14:07:56 <nicktr> ian: any questions?
14:07:58 <nicktr> q?
14:08:25 <Ian> zakim, close item 1
14:08:25 <Zakim> agendum 1, PR API Update, closed
14:08:26 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:08:26 <Zakim> 2. SPC Update [from Ian]
14:08:27 <Ian> zakim, take up item 2
14:08:27 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- SPC Update -- taken up [from Ian]
14:08:45 <Ian> -> https://github.com/w3c/secure-payment-confirmation/wiki/Plan-2021 Timeline
14:08:49 <nicktr> ian: we have a proposed timeline -> https://github.com/w3c/secure-payment-confirmation/wiki/Plan-2021
14:09:05 <nicktr> ...to answer the question "when might this be available"?
14:09:20 <nicktr> ...this proposed plan has us shipping code in October
14:09:27 <nicktr> ...with a FPWD in August
14:09:46 <Ian> -> https://github.com/w3c/secure-payment-confirmation/wiki/Plan-2021
14:09:50 <Ian> https://github.com/w3c/secure-payment-confirmation/blob/gh-pages/scope.md
14:09:56 <nicktr> ...which requires a CFC in July
14:10:18 <Ian> https://github.com/w3c/secure-payment-confirmation/blob/gh-pages/requirements.md
14:10:29 <nicktr> ...we have scope and requirements docs
14:11:02 <nicktr> ian: to help with design it is helpful to pull these out and make them more solid
14:11:18 <nicktr> ian: let me walk through these two docs
14:11:33 <nicktr> ian: scope doc first -> https://github.com/w3c/secure-payment-confirmation/blob/gh-pages/scope.md
14:11:54 <Gerhard> Thanks Ian. Will check it out.
14:11:58 <nicktr> ...including unique features
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14:12:21 <nicktr> ...possible use cases:
14:12:40 <nicktr> 1. Enrollment outside of a transaction
14:12:56 <nicktr> 2. In transaction enrollment (same merhchant)
14:13:05 <nicktr> 3. Authentication (diff merchant)
14:13:15 <nicktr> 4. Auth with out of band authenticator
14:13:34 <nicktr> 5. Enrollment for both pay authentication and account login
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14:13:45 <nicktr> 6. Express checkout (no user presence check)
14:13:57 <nicktr> 7. Express checkout
14:14:10 <nicktr> 8. unenrollment of authenticator
14:14:22 <nicktr> 9. Instrument deail update
14:14:39 <nicktr> 10. Authentication by bank after redirect
14:14:47 <nicktr> s/deail/detail/
14:15:21 <nicktr> ian: requirements then digs into more detail -> https://github.com/w3c/secure-payment-confirmation/blob/gh-pages/requirements.md
14:15:32 <nicktr> ian: we hope to see a first draft in late June
14:15:33 <nicktr> q?
14:15:50 <Ian> scribenick:Ian
14:15:59 <Ian> nicktr: This is good work; thanks to people who have been involved
14:16:23 <Ian> ...please definitely look at the scope document
14:17:30 <nicktr> scribenick: nicktr
14:17:44 <nicktr> ian: we have volunteers for editors
14:17:48 <Ian> zakim, close item 2
14:17:48 <Zakim> agendum 2, SPC Update, closed
14:17:50 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:17:50 <Zakim> 3. Rechartering Schedule [from Ian]
14:17:52 <Ian> zakim, take up item 3
14:17:52 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Rechartering Schedule -- taken up [from Ian]
14:17:59 <Ian> -> https://github.com/w3c/webpayments/wiki/Recharter-2021 Timeline
14:18:19 <nicktr> ian: our charter expires at the end of Dec 2021
14:18:35 <nicktr> ...to recharter, we go through a series of reviews:
14:18:43 <nicktr> 1. Our own working group
14:18:55 <nicktr> 2. Other groups (like I18N, A11Y...)
14:18:58 <nicktr> 3. W3M
14:19:03 <nicktr> 4. Members
14:19:26 <nicktr> ian: typically takes several months for the whole process during which we can continue to work
14:19:42 <nicktr> ...we will revisit this in August
14:20:18 <nicktr> ...I suspect we will refactor the charter around identity and instrument selection
14:20:25 <nicktr> ...feedback is very important and welcome
14:20:34 <Ian> zakim, close item 3
14:20:34 <Zakim> agendum 3, Rechartering Schedule, closed
14:20:36 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
14:20:36 <Zakim> 4. TPAC 2021 [from Ian]
14:20:38 <Ian> zakm, take up item 4
14:20:45 <Ian> -> https://www.w3.org/Guide/meetings/tpac.html 2021
14:20:58 <nicktr> ian: unfortunately TPAC 21 will not be in person
14:21:02 <nicktr> ...it's fully remote
14:21:26 <nicktr> ...our intention is to have 4x2hour meetings in the main week
14:21:34 <nicktr> ...there is a second week of breakouts
14:21:49 <nicktr> ...which is a great time to introduce innovative ideas or work
14:22:11 <nicktr> ian: TPAC falls around the time that the second origin trial of SPC will be concluding
14:22:37 <nicktr> ...so hopefully we can hear the results, move the spec along, and recharter
14:22:58 <Ian> Ian: That's what I have for today. :)
14:23:35 <Ian> NickTR: Lots going on to advance specs, and these plans help us focus. We really appreciate feedback. Please take a few minutes to review materials and send comments or statements of support
14:23:54 <Ian> zakim, close this item
14:23:54 <Zakim> I do not know what agendum had been taken up, Ian
14:24:05 <Ian> Topic: Next meeting
14:24:06 <Ian> 27 May
14:24:35 <nicktr> s/zakim/zakm/
14:24:47 <Ian> ADJOURNED
14:24:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/05/13-wpwg-minutes.html Ian
15:18:27 <Ian> zakim, bye
15:18:27 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been Ian, Nick_Telford-Reed, Clinton_Allen, Stephen_McGruer, Werner_Bruinings, Amy_Slack, Chris_Dee, Erhard_Brand, benoit,
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15:18:29 <Ian> rrsagent, bye
15:18:29 <RRSAgent> I see no action items