IRC log of dxwg on 2021-05-04

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https://www.w3.org/TR/2021/WD-vocab-dcat-3-20210504/
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present+
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q?
20:09:51 [aisaac]
rrsagent, please draft minutes v2
20:09:51 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/05/04-dxwg-minutes.html aisaac
20:10:04 [plh]
zakim, start meeting
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RRSAgent, make logs Public
20:10:06 [Zakim]
please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), plh
20:10:19 [plh]
Meeting: DXWG Plenary Meeting
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Chair: Caroline
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scribeNick: plh
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Topic: DCAT 3
20:11:30 [riccardoAlbertoni_]
q+
20:11:38 [Caroline_]
Ack riccardoAlbertoni_
20:11:39 [plh]
ack riccardoAlbertoni_
20:11:40 [riccardoAlbertoni_]
https://www.w3.org/TR/2021/WD-vocab-dcat-3-20210504/
20:11:54 [plh]
Riccardo: we published the new WD for DCAT 3
20:12:09 [plh]
... should we discuss how to advertise it?
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... and get comments
20:12:26 [riccardoAlbertoni_]
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14Dus6p-lT7hXXP1wQJmDIOvM0NUe7YbBIPs6Vn2qMIs/edit
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20:13:12 [AndreaPerego]
present+
20:13:21 [AndreaPerego]
RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/05/04-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego
20:13:50 [riccardoAlbertoni_]
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14Dus6p-lT7hXXP1wQJmDIOvM0NUe7YbBIPs6Vn2qMIs/edit
20:14:02 [plh]
[discussing the email template]
20:14:24 [Caroline_]
q?
20:14:48 [plh]
Caroline: congratulations on the update!
20:14:54 [aisaac]
+1
20:15:32 [plh]
... let's get comments on the email template
20:16:59 [kcoyle]
plh: on use of Google docs - being used more and more and W3C is looking to get an account of its own
20:18:21 [Caroline_]
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_f5CAZv7rgUjJH5YXkmD6w5xS6GX5X2AmEp_LMptAfQ/edit#gid=560881316
20:18:57 [plh]
Caroline: (concerns about personal data)
20:20:00 [riccardoAlbertoni_]
+q
20:20:18 [plh]
ack riccardoAlbertoni_
20:20:21 [Caroline_]
ack riccardoAlbertoni_
20:20:45 [plh]
riccardoAlbertoni: we probably need to add a new column but also extend the list of people
20:21:39 [plh]
[editing the list of folks to reach out to]
20:25:03 [riccardoAlbertoni_]
+q
20:25:09 [Caroline_]
ack riccardoAlbertoni_
20:26:23 [annette_g]
q+
20:26:31 [Caroline_]
ack annette_g
20:26:32 [plh]
ack annette_g
20:27:08 [plh]
annette_g: the message could include a link to the spreadsheet and we manage access control via google
20:27:33 [annette_g]
and we can just say why the link doesn't work for everyone.
20:28:03 [plh]
Caroline_: ok, let's do that. also promote through social network
20:28:33 [plh]
plh: we could also blog on https://www.w3.org/blog/
20:29:21 [Caroline_]
https://www.w3.org/blog/2020/02/data-catalog-vocabulary-dcat-version-2-published-today/
20:29:42 [riccardoAlbertoni_]
+q
20:29:46 [Caroline_]
ack riccardoAlbertoni_
20:30:07 [plh]
riccardoAlbertoni_: should the post different from the letter or could it be the same thing?
20:30:28 [plh]
plh: could be the same
20:30:58 [Caroline_]
q?
20:32:45 [plh]
ACTION: Caroline to post a blog on DCAT3 once the letter is complete
20:32:46 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-446 - Post a blog on dcat3 once the letter is complete [on Caroline Burle - due 2021-05-11].
20:33:11 [Caroline_]
q?
20:33:40 [plh]
Caroline_: anything else from the other subgroups?
20:34:19 [plh]
[none heard]
20:34:29 [AndreaPerego]
q+ to point to https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1355
20:34:36 [Caroline_]
ack AndreaPerego
20:34:36 [Zakim]
AndreaPerego, you wanted to point to https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1355
20:34:51 [plh]
Topic: Issue 1355
20:35:10 [plh]
--> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1355 Reviving work on the Profile Guidance document
20:35:29 [plh]
AndreaPerego: shared an idea on restarting the on the profile guidance
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... welcome feedback
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... proposal is to make it more similar to a best practice document
20:36:40 [kcoyle]
q+
20:36:56 [Caroline_]
ack kcoyle
20:37:27 [plh]
kcoyle: adding to my GH comment, I do think it would be useful given the multiple profiles that have been created
20:37:56 [plh]
... it's possible that it could end up fostering ideas that could be generalized beyond the DCAT profile
20:38:16 [aisaac]
q+
20:38:17 [Caroline_]
q?
20:38:20 [Caroline_]
ack aisaac
20:38:57 [plh]
aisaac: focusing on dcat profile to narrow the scope would help
20:39:04 [plh]
... and avoid issues on profiles in general
20:39:26 [plh]
... there was a problem on discussion on inheritance
20:39:59 [plh]
... Karen posted a link to the dublin core primer
20:40:37 [plh]
... trying to discuss inheritance forces us to discuss all of the possible cases, which isn't the best approach
20:41:01 [plh]
... if we limit ourselves and avoid inheritance, we could make a way forward
20:41:12 [annette_g]
+1 to Antoine
20:41:13 [plh]
... I like AndreaPerego and kcoyle directions
20:41:28 [plh]
kcoyle: so, what's next?
20:41:54 [plh]
... I don't know the dcat profiles well, so we need someone from the dcat side of things to be part of this
20:42:09 [plh]
... and find out if what if anything else has been written about the dcat profiles
20:42:37 [plh]
aisaac: couple of survey documents about the dcat profiles
20:42:47 [plh]
.... that could be useful (even if it was a long time ago)
20:43:06 [plh]
... I know about dcat and profiles but have limited time in the coming months
20:43:25 [plh]
kcoyle: I can start looking at them in the context of dublin core and see what requirements seem to surface from them
20:43:45 [plh]
aisaac: there was a paper a while ago...
20:43:59 [plh]
kcoyle: I would welcome a link
20:44:18 [plh]
AndreaPerego: I could look into it
20:44:29 [annette_g]
q+
20:44:34 [Caroline_]
ack annette_g
20:44:55 [plh]
annette_g: would like to help here as well
20:45:21 [plh]
Caroline_: ok, we have a new subgroup for this then :)
20:45:49 [plh]
... should we put this on the agenda for the next plenary?
20:45:53 [aisaac]
q+
20:45:59 [Caroline_]
ack aisaac
20:46:02 [aisaac]
" Towards an open government data ecosystem in Europe using common standards"
20:46:15 [AndreaPerego]
I think this is the doc aisaac was referring to: https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/semantic-interoperability-community-semic/solution/dcat-application-profile-data-portals-europe/document/national-extensions-analysis-dcat-ap
20:46:16 [plh]
kcoyle: sure
20:47:59 [plh]
Topic: open actions
20:48:05 [AndreaPerego]
RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/05/04-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego
20:48:12 [plh]
https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/open
20:48:31 [plh]
ACTION-445?
20:48:31 [trackbot]
ACTION-445 -- Riccardo Albertoni to Check with plh how to add errata to dqv - ref: https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/5 -- due 2021-04-27 -- OPEN
20:48:31 [trackbot]
https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/445
20:48:44 [plh]
riccardoAlbertoni_: wrote to plh so the action can be closed
20:49:32 [plh]
close action-445
20:49:32 [trackbot]
Closed action-445.
20:49:43 [plh]
action: plh to figure how to update the dqv document
20:49:43 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-447 - Figure how to update the dqv document [on Philippe Le Hégaret - due 2021-05-11].
20:50:17 [plh]
action-434?
20:50:17 [trackbot]
action-434 -- Andrea Perego to See how the mapping of un/qualified relationships can be addressed in the current spec -- due 2020-10-21 -- OPEN
20:50:17 [trackbot]
https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/434
20:50:23 [plh]
AndreaPerego: this is yet to be done
20:51:27 [plh]
[adjourned]
20:51:29 [plh]
rrsagent, generate minutes v2
20:51:29 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/05/04-dxwg-minutes.html plh
20:54:04 [AndreaPerego]
agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2021.04.20
20:54:06 [AndreaPerego]
RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/05/04-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego
20:57:05 [AndreaPerego]
present+ Caroline
20:57:08 [AndreaPerego]
present+ plh
20:57:12 [AndreaPerego]
RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/05/04-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego
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