13:59:09 RRSAgent has joined #wot-arch 13:59:09 logging to https://www.w3.org/2021/04/29-wot-arch-irc 14:00:55 Meeting: WoT Architecture 14:01:05 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool 14:02:12 present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima 14:04:31 dape has joined #wot-arch 14:04:43 present+ Daniel_Peintner 14:08:14 Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Architecture_WebConf#April_29th.2C_2021 14:11:47 scribenick: kaz 14:11:52 topic: minutes 14:12:08 -> https://www.w3.org/2021/04/15-wot-arch-minutes.html Apr-15 14:12:18 mm: (goes through the previous minutes) 14:13:27 ... wondering about whether the Architecture 1.1 spec needs tests or not 14:14:08 ... any objections to publish the minutes? 14:14:09 (none) 14:14:11 approved 14:14:27 topic: PRs 14:14:48 mm: Lagally can't join today, so we can't merge major PRs 14:15:12 ... but some of them could be merged 14:15:37 present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch 14:15:43 subtopic: PR 590 14:15:52 sebastian has joined #wot-arch 14:16:18 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/590 wot-architecture PR 590 - Move Partial TD definition to right place in list 14:16:26 mm: this is editorial and can be merged 14:16:29 (merged) 14:16:48 subtopic: PR 586 14:17:13 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/586 wot-architecture PR 586 - Add terminology from binding templates 14:17:47 mm: Ege is moving some of the vocabulary 14:18:05 zkis has joined #wot-arch 14:18:13 sk: this is transfer from wot-binding to wot-architecture 14:18:29 mm: any vocabulary within wot-thing-description as well? 14:18:40 sk: will check 14:19:02 mm: (adds comments to PR 586) 14:19:04 Mlagally has joined #wot-arch 14:19:12 ... terminology from binding templates 14:19:35 (merged) 14:19:43 subtopic: PR 586 14:20:53 s/subtopic: PR 586// 14:21:20 topic: Issues 14:21:47 mm: (goes through wot-architecture issues) 14:22:20 subtopic: Issue 453 14:22:40 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/453 wot-architecture Issue 453 - Create terminology definition for "partial TD" 14:22:50 mm: let's see the spec draft 14:23:14 -> https://w3c.github.io/wot-architecture/#terminology wot-architecture ED - 3. Terminology 14:23:24 mm: let me add a comment about this 14:23:39 ... (goes back to Issue 453, and adds comments) 14:24:36 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/453#issuecomment-829281787 McCool's comments 14:24:54 mm: (adds the link for the PR for Issue 453) 14:26:08 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/590 wot-architecture PR 590 - Move Partial TD definition to right place in list 14:26:45 topic: Profile 14:26:54 mm: now let's go for Profile 14:27:26 ... but Ben or Lagally is not here today 14:27:48 ... we should focus on one profile 14:28:15 sk: think we definitely need Lagally here 14:28:25 mm: right 14:28:41 ... we won't remove anything today without Lagally's participation 14:28:53 ... but would avoid old discussions 14:29:04 sk: ok 14:29:12 ... this is our direction 14:29:25 ... making a baseline document for further profile in the future 14:29:32 ... we should concentrate on that 14:29:59 ... think the protocol part is safe 14:30:13 ... to get consensus 14:30:25 mm: yeah 14:31:25 ... think the mechanism here is fine 14:31:56 ... and we should focus on one profile 14:32:05 ... will give a comment to this PR 79 14:32:45 ... Sebastian, have you gone through Ben's PRs? 14:32:51 sk: most of them 14:33:41 ... Ben is following the approach of node-wot 14:33:55 mm: yeah 14:33:55 q+ 14:34:02 ack d 14:34:07 dp: one issue is... 14:34:17 ... PUT must report data 14:34:31 ... but that's impossible for TD 14:34:56 mm: acknowledging what to get 14:35:04 ... maybe we need some flag 14:35:18 dp: something to report for another payload 14:35:31 mm: PUT for new property 14:35:50 ... might need something for security key 14:36:09 ... we could always recommend something 14:36:23 sk: checking with Klaus as well 14:36:56 ... he mentioned maybe some disadvantage would be caching 14:37:26 mm: possibly need to update the cache every time 14:38:06 ... we should have discussion including Ben and Lagally 14:39:39 ... (quickly goes through some more PRs) 14:40:07 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/79/files wot-profile PR 79 - Open 14:40:07 New Profile Mechanism section 14:41:03 sk: use case description to be added to the Use Cases document? 14:41:05 mm: yeah 14:41:35 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/78 wot-profile PR 78 - Remove WoT Core Data Model section 14:41:49 mm: (next, goes through PR 78) 14:42:08 s|/78|/78/files| 14:42:40 sk: think he's providing good guidelines here 14:42:45 mm: yeah 14:42:55 ... this is very concrete 14:43:17 ... removing all the data model descriptions 14:43:29 ... need to review the details with Lagally 14:44:19 ... (adds a tag "pre-restructure" to the PR) 14:45:49 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/57 wot-profile PR 57 - Canonical representation 2 14:45:55 mm: (adds comments) 14:46:08 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/57#issuecomment-829299684 McCool's comments 14:46:12 topic: AOB 14:46:19 sk: wondering about the timeline 14:46:36 mm: we should establish one specific profile as the basis 14:47:17 ... we need to check with Ben and Lagally 14:47:31 ... let's send an email to them to move forward 14:47:37 sk: ok 14:48:06 mm: we should be aware of the summer vacation season 14:48:19 sk: ok 14:48:24 Chair: McCool 14:48:28 regrets+ Lagally 14:48:30 [adjourned] 14:48:37 rrsagent, make log public 14:48:43 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:48:43 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/04/29-wot-arch-minutes.html kaz 14:51:35 s/topic: PRs/topic: Architecture/ 14:51:43 s/topic: Issues// 14:51:45 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:51:45 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/04/29-wot-arch-minutes.html kaz 14:52:11 s/topic: minutes/topic: Minutes/ 14:52:13 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:52:13 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/04/29-wot-arch-minutes.html kaz 16:52:56 Zakim has left #wot-arch