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12:03:55 <kaz> meeting: WoT-IG/WG
12:04:25 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Daniel_Peintner, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Philipp_Blum
12:04:33 <kaz> regrets+ Michael_Lagally
12:04:47 <kaz> Chair: McCool, Sebastian
12:05:08 <kaz> present+ Ege_Korkan
12:05:24 <kaz> present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch
12:05:38 <kaz> present+ Tetsushi_Matsuda
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12:06:21 <kaz> scribenick: citrullin
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12:06:51 <citrullin> topic: review minutes
12:07:04 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2021/04/21-wot-minutes.html Apr-21
12:07:14 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
12:07:36 <citrullin> mm: Smart cities. We are going to talk about this today
12:07:51 <citrullin> mm: Testfest, we also talk about this today.
12:08:20 <citrullin> mm: I notices TPAC will be virtual until further notice.
12:09:25 <citrullin> ... has someone change for the minutes?
12:09:37 <citrullin> ...any objections to publish it?
12:09:45 <citrullin> ...no objections.
12:10:06 <citrullin> topic: AC 2021
12:10:27 <citrullin> kaz: Alibaba mentioned the WoT WG work.
12:10:54 <citrullin> mm: Are they joining the WG?
12:11:00 <citrullin> kaz: The WoT IG.
12:11:36 <kaz> s/work/work within their slides on Digital Twins/
12:11:53 <citrullin> Digital Twins -> https://www.w3.org/2021/04/AC/talk/digital-twin
12:12:07 <citrullin> topic: Smart cities
12:12:11 <kaz> s/twin/twin (Member-only)/
12:12:26 <citrullin> mm: My proposal is to go forward with the submission.
12:12:56 <kaz> s/The WoT IG./I suggested they work with both the IG and the WG, but probably starting with the use case discussion by the IG./
12:13:23 <citrullin> mm: Sebastian had some feedback regarding the wording orchestration. I expended it.
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12:13:45 <kaz> -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-ig/2021Apr/0015.html McCool's proposal (Member-only)
12:13:55 <kaz> present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura
12:13:57 <citrullin> ...I would like to have a  resolution. Do we have any proposed changes to that?
12:15:01 <McCool> proposal: submit the text at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-ig/2021Apr/0015.html to the Smart City workshop at https://www.w3.org/2021/06/smartcities-workshop/
12:15:26 <McCool> proposal: submit the text of the proposal for a WoT session at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-ig/2021Apr/0015.html to the Smart City workshop at https://www.w3.org/2021/06/smartcities-workshop/
12:15:53 <McCool> resolution: submit the text of the proposal for a WoT session at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-ig/2021Apr/0015.html to the Smart City workshop at https://www.w3.org/2021/06/smartcities-workshop/
12:16:05 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:16:09 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:16:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/04/28-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:16:19 <citrullin> topic: Plugfest
12:16:35 <citrullin> mm: I keep it short. We have a plugfest meeting.
12:17:02 <citrullin> mm: We have to update our TD tests.
12:17:27 <citrullin> ...We have a doodle for the time. I would like to find a time today for it.
12:18:39 <citrullin> ...looking through this, I see a full green slot on Tuesday. And Friday, but it is Friday evening in Japan.
12:18:59 <citrullin> Doodle -> https://doodle.com/poll/mzv9x5rxsdmub5u3
12:20:06 <citrullin> Some talk about the available time slots
12:21:38 <citrullin> mm: I would like to find a resolution for this in the plugfest call today.
12:23:19 <citrullin> s/in the plugfest call//
12:23:26 <citrullin> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:23:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/04/28-wot-minutes.html citrullin
12:25:24 <McCool> proposal: 9am Eastern every day June 7-11 for 1h for a sync call, with a slightly longer call on Friday June 11 (2h), then (optionally) another 1-2h call Friday June 18
12:26:33 <McCool> resolution: For testfest, plan for 9am Eastern every day June 7-11 for 1h for a sync call, with a slightly longer call on Friday June 11 (2h), then (optionally) another 1-2h call Friday June 18
12:26:43 <citrullin> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:26:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/04/28-wot-minutes.html citrullin
12:26:55 <McCool> action: kaz to make a wiki page, calendar, etc.
12:27:40 <citrullin> topic: vF2F
12:28:09 <citrullin> mm: It has to be before end of June.
12:28:18 <citrullin> ...please fill out the doodle.
12:28:36 <citrullin> ...we are going to cancel the normal calls for this.
12:28:40 <McCool> https://doodle.com/poll/p7dher5i2umr4ap8
12:29:08 <citrullin> s/https/-> https/
12:29:17 <citrullin> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:29:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/04/28-wot-minutes.html citrullin
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12:29:31 <kaz> s/ap8/ap8 doodle for June vF2F/
12:29:46 <kaz> topic: Publication
12:29:49 <kaz> subtopic: Use Cases
12:30:10 <citrullin> mm: Does anyone has an opinion on this?
12:30:23 <citrullin> ...seems like no one has strong opinions about it.
12:31:06 <citrullin> topic: WoT discovery call for review
12:31:11 <kaz> s/this/this proposal on the shortname URL for publication?/
12:31:14 <kaz> s/??/?/
12:31:29 <kaz> s/topic: WoT/subtopic: WoT/
12:31:47 <McCool> proposal: "Publish an updated version of the WoT Discovery WD as identified by the branch https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/tree/wd-update-candidate.
12:32:11 <McCool> proposal: Publish an updated version of the WoT Discovery WD as identified by the branch https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/tree/wd-update-candidate.
12:32:41 <McCool> resolution: Publish an updated version of the WoT Discovery WD as identified by the branch https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/tree/wd-update-candidate.
12:32:48 <citrullin>  rrsagent, make log public
12:33:18 <citrullin>  rrsagent, draft minutes
12:33:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/04/28-wot-minutes.html citrullin
12:33:53 <citrullin> topic: ITU-T
12:34:20 <citrullin> mm: I send a message to legally to make some changes. Kaz, do you take the action to send this to the ITU-T?
12:34:22 <citrullin> kaz: Yes.
12:34:39 <citrullin> topic: ECHONET
12:34:50 <citrullin> mm: Kaz, did you take a look into it?
12:35:01 <citrullin> kaz: Yes,i had a call with ECHONET.
12:35:13 <citrullin> s/i/I/
12:35:47 <citrullin> mm: I think this is very encouraging, since these are industry products. Would be nice to align them with our standard.
12:35:59 <kaz> action: kaz to send the liaison message out to the ITU-T SG20 based on McCool's draft (ccing team-liaisons)
12:36:15 <kaz> (@@ move the action to the ITU-T section later)
12:36:56 <citrullin> topic: IEC
12:37:04 <citrullin> mm: Still waiting for updates
12:37:07 <citrullin> Got a packaeg sorr
12:38:07 <citrullin> topic: GaiaX
12:38:24 <citrullin> mm: We were talking about it this morning.
12:38:42 <citrullin> Gaia X -> https://www.data-infrastructure.eu/GAIAX/Navigation/EN/Home/home.html
12:39:08 <citrullin> mm: We discussed this and came to the conclusion to invite them.
12:40:00 <kaz> s/GaiaX/GAIA-X/
12:40:02 <citrullin> topic: SOLID
12:40:06 <kaz> s/Gaia X/GAIA-X/
12:40:21 <citrullin> SOLID -> https://www.w3.org/community/solid/
12:40:45 <citrullin> mm: They have some things which are similar to the WoT directory.
12:41:15 <kaz> q?
12:41:21 <citrullin> mk: They have a platform around Json LD.
12:41:46 <citrullin> mm: I think their goal is to write a spec and move it to the W3C.
12:42:43 <citrullin> topic: TF reports
12:42:47 <citrullin> subtopic: Scripting
12:43:08 <citrullin> dp: We had a joint meeting with security.
12:43:36 <citrullin> ...in order to solve some issues around security in scripting.
12:44:31 <citrullin> subtopic: Discovery
12:44:47 <citrullin> mm: We merged some things, the editor draft is in progress.
12:45:08 <citrullin> ...you can take a look into the issue tracker.
12:45:50 <citrullin> ...we had some feedback regarding the focus on HTTP. HTTP is the focus for now and we are going to support CoAP, MQTT in the future.
12:46:18 <citrullin> subtopic: Marketing
12:46:25 <citrullin> sk: We had a call yesterday.
12:46:58 <citrullin> ...we talked about the animation video. The captions. We now have Japanese, Chinese and German. Some of them have to get approved.
12:47:26 <citrullin> ...kaz found out there were some bugs with the timing of the captions. He fixed it.
12:47:50 <dape> s/Japanese, Chinese/Japanese, Chinese, Italian
12:47:55 <kaz> -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMFXg-kni0U updated YouTube video :)
12:47:56 <citrullin> ...we also talked about the webpage. Liaisons are now added. The logos will be added later.
12:48:05 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:48:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/04/28-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:48:49 <citrullin> sk: We also had a new tool for Java added to the site.
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12:49:13 <citrullin> mm: I think that is interesting. It has a SPARQL implementation in it. So, it works with the directory.
12:49:54 <citrullin> mm: the LinkSmart implementation isn't listed here.
12:50:19 <citrullin> sk: Farshid already created a PR for LinkSmart.
12:50:39 <citrullin> mm: We still have the old page active. I have to clarify this.
12:51:00 <citrullin> s/mm/sk/
12:51:16 <citrullin> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:51:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/04/28-wot-minutes.html citrullin
12:53:11 <citrullin> subtopic: Architecture
12:53:36 <citrullin> mm: There are a lot of open PR, but I don't want to do it without Michael.
12:53:59 <kaz> s/Michael./Michael Lagally./
12:54:30 <citrullin> ...in the meantime people can take a look into the PR and review them.
12:55:45 <citrullin> sk: I make a request to review the spec.
12:56:17 <citrullin> mm: Security is broken in the TD spec.
12:56:23 <citrullin> sk: I take a look into it.
12:57:27 <kaz> [main call adjourned; Plugfest call starts at 5 mins past the hour]
12:57:32 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:57:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/04/28-wot-minutes.html kaz
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