IRC log of apa on 2021-04-21
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- Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 21 April 2021
- 16:02:04 [paul_grenier]
- present+
- 16:02:15 [becky]
- Chair: Becky
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- agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements;
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- agenda+ Task Force Updates;
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- agenda+ FAST Progress
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- agenda+ New Charters Review
- 16:02:16 [becky]
- https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
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- agenda+ Horizontal Review Issues Tracker
- 16:02:17 [becky]
- https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
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- agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
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- agenda+ CSS Update (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
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- agenda+ Dangling Spec Review Cleanup:
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- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
- 16:02:18 [JF]
- Present+
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- agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs)
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- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
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- agenda+ Other Business
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- agenda+ be done
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- agenda ?
- 16:03:00 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- present+
- 16:03:48 [janina]
- present+
- 16:04:08 [becky]
- regrets: Gottfried Zimmermann
- 16:04:22 [becky]
- present+
- 16:04:58 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- scribe: Lionel
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements; -- taken up [from becky]
- 16:05:38 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- becky: We added the helpful links to the wiki page
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- present+
- 16:06:42 [becky]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Key_Resources_and_Links
- 16:07:18 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ... Useful with all the TF, IRC, Zakim links. Should make our invitations more tidy.
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2 -- Task Force Updates; -- taken up [from becky]
- 16:08:23 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- janina: Michael's helpful comments on the last read are being actioned
- 16:08:38 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ... a lot of changes in the last week.
- 16:08:59 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ... will make a far stronger FPWD (first public working draft)
- 16:09:29 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ... should be done next week
- 16:09:47 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ... Research questions is progressing as well.
- 16:10:30 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ... Personalization moving forward towards CR.
- 16:11:41 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- JF: I submitted editorial changes as a PR
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- janina: COGA is publishing "Content useable" and asking what is next
- 16:13:17 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ... AGWG and APA are going to get together to discuss expectations re:COGA
- 16:13:37 [Fredrik]
- q+
- 16:14:41 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- MichaelC: COGA's Content useable was supposed to be published by now, the CFCs are approved, just small coding errors remain
- 16:16:01 [becky]
- ack Fredrik
- 16:16:14 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- MichaelC: COGA is taking issues by GitHub
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- agendum 3 -- FAST Progress -- taken up [from becky]
- 16:16:58 [joconnor]
- present+
- 16:17:49 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- MichaelC: Developing a set of user needs. One track extending into Silver guidelines, another to FAST guideliens
- 16:18:04 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- s/liens/lines
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 4 -- New Charters Review -- taken up [from becky]
- 16:18:25 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- becky: And we are still waiting for our charter
- 16:18:46 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- MichaelC: Went to review to the advisory ctee, that generally takes 3 weeks
- 16:19:01 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- MichaelC: So far 11 in favor, 1 suggesting favors, minor comments
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- ... other charters: nothing new this week
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 5 -- Horizontal Review Issues Tracker -- taken up [from becky]
- 16:19:51 [becky]
- https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
- 16:20:05 [MichaelC]
- https://github.com/WICG/webcomponents/issues/916
- 16:22:27 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ACTION:: paul_grenier to review the WICG web components issue 916, https://github.com/WICG/webcomponents/issues/916
- 16:23:24 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ACTION: paul_grenier to review the WICG web components issue 916, https://github.com/WICG/webcomponents/issues/916
- 16:23:24 [trackbot]
- Error finding 'paul_grenier'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/users>.
- 16:23:49 [amy_c]
- present+
- 16:24:17 [JF]
- zakim, who is here?
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- Present: paul_grenier, JF, Lionel_Wolberger, janina, becky, Fredrik, joconnor, amy_c
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- On IRC I see Fredrik, Zakim, RRSAgent, Lionel_Wolberger, amy_c, JF, becky, duga, paul_grenier, jamesn, janina, MichaelC, tink, slightlyoff, ZoeBijl, Rachael, manu, ada, joconnor,
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- ... cwilso, trackbot
- 16:25:36 [MichaelC]
- action: grenier to review the WICG web components issue 916, https://github.com/WICG/webcomponents/issues/916
- 16:25:37 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-2288 - Review the wicg web components issue 916, https://github.com/wicg/webcomponents/issues/916 [on Paul Grenier - due 2021-04-28].
- 16:25:46 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ACTION: PaulG to review the WICG web components issue 916, https://github.com/WICG/webcomponents/issues/916
- 16:25:47 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-2289 - Review the wicg web components issue 916, https://github.com/wicg/webcomponents/issues/916 [on Paul Grenier - due 2021-04-28].
- 16:27:49 [MichaelC]
- close action 2288
- 16:28:01 [MichaelC]
- close action-2288
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- Closed action-2288.
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 6 -- new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from becky]
- 16:28:15 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- MichaelC: Nothing this week
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 6 was just opened, Lionel_Wolberger
- 16:29:05 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- zakim, close item 6
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- agendum 6, new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html, closed
- 16:29:07 [Zakim]
- I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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- 7. CSS Update (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues [from becky]
- 16:29:12 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 7 -- CSS Update (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues -- taken up [from becky]
- 16:29:55 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- amy_c: On multi-column, adding an accessibility note
- 16:31:45 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- amy_c: Read her draft.
- 16:32:05 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- becky: Amy to follow the usual process, post to the list with all the proper links
- 16:32:39 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ... closes tonight at midnight
- 16:34:18 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- MichaelC: They have a requirement to give us 3 months, if we need it
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 8 -- Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: -- taken up [from becky]
- 16:34:50 [MichaelC]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
- 16:35:39 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- MichaelC: File API - assigned to David
- 16:36:21 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- janina: Add to the a11y consideration section, we recommend people follow WCAG so that it becomes a useful tool
- 16:36:40 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- MichaelC: Language Tags and Locale Identifiers for the World Wide Web - janina?
- 16:37:15 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- +1 to Janina's vision of a future with machine-readable ASL
- 16:37:37 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- janina: Taking some time on this, thinking about sign language and locale
- 16:37:47 [JF]
- https://github.com/w3c/media-capabilities/issues/177
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- 16:37:52 [MichaelC]
- https://github.com/w3c/media-capabilities/issues/177
- 16:37:58 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- MichaelC: Media Capabilities - JF?
- 16:38:48 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- JF: This is an API for reading inside the media asset. I dont see them querying if the media asset contains accessibility features such as captions
- 16:39:00 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ... I asked about this capability, waiting to hear back
- 16:40:23 [MichaelC]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Media_Session_Standard
- 16:40:59 [MichaelC]
- https://www.w3.org/TR/mediasession/
- 16:41:11 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- MichaelC: Media Session Standard - "...customized media metadata on platform UI, customize available platform media controls, and access platform media keys such as hardware keys found on keyboards..."
- 16:41:22 [MichaelC]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Media_Timed_Events
- 16:41:45 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- MichaelC: Media Timed Events - propose to abandon review, as this is only a Note
- 16:42:17 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- janina: Agree. +1
- 16:42:22 [MichaelC]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/MediaStreamTrack_Content_Hints
- 16:43:02 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- MichaelC: MediaStreamTrack Content Hints - we should revisit this review
- 16:44:36 [JF]
- Q+
- 16:45:10 [becky]
- ack JF
- 16:47:21 [MichaelC]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Page_Visibility_Level_2
- 16:48:34 [MichaelC]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2018Jul/0020.html
- 16:49:12 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- MichaelC: Page Visibility Level 2 - becky offers to take the action.
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 9 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) -- taken up [from becky]
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- zakim, close item 9
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- agendum 9, Actions Checkin (Specs), closed
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- I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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- 10. Other Business [from becky]
- 16:50:41 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 10 -- Other Business -- taken up [from becky]
- 16:51:01 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- becky: Reminding again about the open CFC
- 16:51:22 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- Fredrik: Calendar app?
- 16:51:34 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ... I need data and permissions to enter the data
- 16:51:59 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- becky: It's easier to enter data that you can review.
- 16:52:07 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- janina: I understand ARIA is using it
- 16:53:14 [MichaelC]
- https://www.w3.org/groups/wg/apa/calendar
- 16:53:30 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 11 -- be done -- taken up [from becky]
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- zakim, end meeting
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- As of this point the attendees have been paul_grenier, JF, Lionel_Wolberger, janina, becky, Fredrik, joconnor, amy_c
- 16:54:09 [Zakim]
- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
- 16:54:09 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/04/21-apa-minutes.html Zakim
- 16:54:12 [Zakim]
- I am happy to have been of service, Lionel_Wolberger; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye
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- 16:55:05 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- zakim, close meeting
- 16:55:40 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- RRSAgent, please part
- 16:55:40 [RRSAgent]
- I see 4 open action items saved in https://www.w3.org/2021/04/21-apa-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: : paul_grenier to review the WICG web components issue 916, https://github.com/WICG/webcomponents/issues/916 [1]
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- recorded in https://www.w3.org/2021/04/21-apa-irc#T16-22-27
- 16:55:40 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: paul_grenier to review the WICG web components issue 916, https://github.com/WICG/webcomponents/issues/916 [2]
- 16:55:40 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in https://www.w3.org/2021/04/21-apa-irc#T16-23-24
- 16:55:40 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: grenier to review the WICG web components issue 916, https://github.com/WICG/webcomponents/issues/916 [3]
- 16:55:40 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in https://www.w3.org/2021/04/21-apa-irc#T16-25-36
- 16:55:40 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: PaulG to review the WICG web components issue 916, https://github.com/WICG/webcomponents/issues/916 [4]
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- recorded in https://www.w3.org/2021/04/21-apa-irc#T16-25-46
- 16:55:41 [MichaelC]
- zakim, end meeting