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11:01:47 <kaz> Meeting: WoT Marketing
11:02:06 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Daniel_Peintner, Kunihiko_Toumura, Philipp_Blum
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11:03:08 <kaz> present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch
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11:06:01 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizuhima, Michael_McCool
11:06:07 <kaz> zakim, who is on the call?
11:06:07 <Zakim> Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Daniel_Peintner, Kunihiko_Toumura, Philipp_Blum, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tomoaki_Mizuhima, Michael_McCool
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11:06:24 <kaz> zakim, pick a scribe
11:06:24 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Kunihiko_Toumura
11:06:50 <kaz> zakim, pick a scribe
11:06:50 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Michael_McCool
11:07:29 <kaz> scribenick: McCool
11:08:42 <McCool> topic: minutes review
11:08:58 <McCool> for vF2F and minutes from last meeting before F2F
11:10:40 <kaz> i|vF2F|-> https://www.w3.org/2021/04/13-wot-marketing-minutes.html Apr-13|
11:11:22 <McCool> note that regarding "task force", I recall the decision was to always use two words, but it's not recorded in the minutes
11:12:41 <McCool> kaz: I will add a note to the minutes to record the decision
11:14:19 <McCool> mm: also liaison is misspelled in several places
11:14:32 <kaz> present+ Ege_Korkan
11:14:44 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
11:14:54 <kaz> [note added and typos fixed]
11:15:01 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:15:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/04/20-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz
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11:15:12 <McCool> mm: regarding tutorials, we did discuss in plugfest call, and can do that again this week
11:15:26 <McCool> seb: any objection to publishing the minutes?
11:16:02 <kaz> (none; approved)
11:16:07 <kaz> topic: Blog post
11:16:23 <McCool> seb: hearing no objections, these minutes will be published
11:16:33 <kaz> s/topic: Blog post//
11:16:39 <kaz> s/topic: Blog post//
11:16:41 <kaz> topic: Blog post
11:17:12 <kaz> sk: just one comment on the size of the thumbnail picture
11:18:06 <kaz> mm: can look into it
11:18:07 <McCool> mm: I'll have to figure out how to do it, wordpress is a little weird
11:18:14 <kaz> s/mm: can look into it//
11:18:25 <kaz> i/just/scribenick: kaz/
11:18:34 <kaz> i/I'll/scribenick: McCool/
11:18:38 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:18:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/04/20-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz
11:18:44 <McCool> ... also looks like the alt tag might be missing
11:18:49 <McCool> ... it was in the HTML but...
11:20:06 <McCool> ... also "alt" might be expanded to "if youtube does not work for you, click here"
11:24:42 <McCool> seb: 50% looks ok
11:25:13 <McCool> mm: will have to update formatting, then will click on post when I'm done
11:30:29 <sebastian> resolution: when W3C provides a tweet which is relevant to WoT, @W3C_WoT is allowed to re-tweet directly
11:30:31 <Ege> @w3c is the account name to be precise :)
11:30:49 <McCool> mm: I'll also update the policy, and we should mention in the main call tomorrow
11:31:12 <kaz> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Marketing_WebConf#Apr_20.2C_2021
11:31:22 <McCool> topic: web page updates
11:31:30 <McCool> seb: daniel has provided some PRs
11:31:51 <McCool> ... issue 161
11:32:25 <McCool> dape: there were a number of broken links on the liaison page
11:32:38 <McCool> ... and also strange ones, like a link pointing to a french wikipedia site
11:32:52 <McCool> ... also logos would be nicers, but formatting is tricky
11:33:03 <McCool> ... for now do without logos
11:33:30 <kaz> q+
11:34:15 <kaz> i|there were|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/161 Issue 161 - Add WoT Liaisons to IG page|
11:34:16 <McCool> kaz: let's start with text names, can work on logos later
11:34:34 <McCool> dape: I also listed three issues regarding links, please take a look
11:34:47 <McCool> ... hypercat is broken, etc.
11:35:00 <McCool> ... when you look on the official liaison page
11:35:58 <McCool> mm: and if we find broken links on the official page, those should be fixed
11:36:24 <McCool> kaz: regarding broken links on the official page, can send an email to the systeam
11:36:38 <kaz> s/can/we can/
11:36:38 <McCool> seb: feel that we *should* include logos
11:36:45 <kaz> s/systeam/liaison team/
11:36:56 <McCool> ... logos will look more professional and easier to read
11:37:37 <McCool> mm: just a question of timing; do we do text first, and then add logos, or wait until we have logos?
11:37:44 <McCool> seb: ok to do it incrementally
11:39:40 <kaz> ack k
11:41:01 <McCool> ege: issue with logos not being consistent sizes, etc
11:41:16 <McCool> mm: also logos typically come with rules about white space, etc.
11:41:38 <McCool> ... let's get the logos first, then figure out how to design the page to display them
11:42:31 <McCool> ... logo capture will be tracked in issue 164
11:43:21 <McCool> dape: new pr 164, addresses issue to move icons before text, and also fixes "task force" spelling
11:43:39 <McCool> ... fixes issue 153
11:44:55 <McCool> dape: note also some decisions made about text alignment
11:45:41 <McCool> ege: note binding templates are a tf in the charter
11:46:45 <McCool> ... not necessarily useful any more
11:48:07 <McCool> ... and it does not have its own meeting
11:48:15 <McCool> ... instead it is part of the TD call
11:48:33 <McCool> ... if someone goes looking for the binding template call they won't find it
11:50:04 <McCool> seb: the description of the TD TF does say that binding templates are handled by the TD TF
11:50:24 <McCool> kaz: note there is no official list of TFs managed by the W3C
11:51:05 <McCool> ... it is up to each group to manage
11:51:30 <McCool> seb: ege, maybe you can do some research to see if we have to fix anything
11:51:40 <McCool> ege: ok, but for now the web page looks ok
11:51:56 <McCool> seb: back to this PR, I think it looks good
11:52:09 <McCool> ... shall we merge it?
11:52:24 <McCool> seb: hearing no objections, will merge
11:52:34 <sebastian> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/160
11:52:47 <McCool> seb: merged
11:53:12 <McCool> seb: another pr 161, still in progress
11:53:22 <McCool> topic: conferences
11:53:43 <McCool> ege: issue 163, API Specification Conference
11:53:55 <kaz> q?
11:54:25 <sebastian> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/154
11:54:51 <McCool> seb: this PR just provides sources for the images used in the web page
11:54:56 <McCool> ... as a PPTX
11:57:06 <McCool> ... note it is under docs/material/wot-figures.pptx
11:57:15 <McCool> topic: conferences
11:57:25 <McCool> ege: API Specification Conference
11:57:29 <McCool> q+
11:57:47 <McCool> ege: would like to discuss what kind of content we want
11:58:06 <McCool> ... we can't do exactly the same as last year as it will get rejected
11:58:34 <McCool> ... so maybe this year we can focus on a different aspect
11:59:16 <McCool> ... we could also focus on new things, but need to know previous work
11:59:35 <McCool> ... then there is scripting, maybe look at specific examples
12:02:40 <McCool> mm: I personally would like to see a deep dive into a specific use case and use in products
12:02:45 <kaz> q+ to note we're out of time...
12:02:54 <McCool> seb: will have some mention in June
12:03:11 <citrullin> +1 on what Seb said
12:03:55 <McCool> mm: and I think we should avoid emphasizing "maker" scene, etc.
12:04:02 <kaz> i|ege: API Spe|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/163 Issue 163 - API Specification Conference 2021|
12:04:06 <McCool> ... rather should look at commercial applications
12:04:20 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:04:20 <McCool> ege: participants are commercial vendors
12:04:32 <McCool> seb: have to close, let's follow up on this next week
12:04:35 <kaz> [adjourned]
12:04:42 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:04:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/04/20-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz