14:01:06 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #wot-discovery
14:01:06 <RRSAgent> logging to https://www.w3.org/2021/04/19-wot-discovery-irc
14:01:12 <kaz> Meeting: WoT Discovery
14:01:25 <FarshidT> FarshidT has joined #wot-discovery
14:01:28 <acimmino> acimmino has joined #wot-discovery
14:01:37 <ktoumura> ktoumura has joined #wot-discovery
14:01:43 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Andrea_Cimmino, Farshid_Tavakolizadeh, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_McCool
14:03:21 <Mizushima> Mizushima has joined #wot-discovery
14:06:30 <FarshidT> Hosting contexts under w3.org: https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/148
14:08:28 <kaz> present+ Christian_Glomb
14:09:08 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
14:09:15 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
14:09:15 <Zakim> Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Andrea_Cimmino, Farshid_Tavakolizadeh, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_McCool, Christian_Glomb, Tomoaki_Mizushima
14:09:17 <Zakim> On IRC I see Mizushima, ktoumura, acimmino, FarshidT, RRSAgent, Zakim, McCool, glomb, zkis, kaz
14:11:00 <glomb> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/154
14:11:09 <kaz> i/Hosting/topic: Agenda bashing/
14:11:15 <glomb> Resolution on April 28th
14:11:49 <kaz> topic: Prev minutes
14:11:58 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2021/04/12-wot-discovery-minutes.html Apr-12
14:12:15 <kaz> i/Hosting/scribenick: glomb/
14:12:30 <glomb> Minutes from last week - Ben Francis needed for Security
14:12:39 <glomb> Wrt object security
14:13:59 <glomb> mmc: Registration ID meant as local ID
14:14:35 <glomb> Minutes approved
14:17:48 <kaz> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Discovery_WebConf#19_April_2021
14:18:19 <kaz> topic: WD publication
14:18:47 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/154 Issue 154 - Publish updated WD
14:20:23 <glomb> glomb Two groups of comments: Editorial wrt http, non-editorial wrt server-side information
14:20:47 <glomb> mmc Submit PR for it
14:21:58 <glomb> mmc Would add implication for implementors
14:22:58 <glomb> Farshid Server-side content negotiation still possible
14:23:35 <glomb> Farshid: What is the use case for pagination in body?
14:24:01 <glomb> mmc - Has advantages for object security.
14:24:42 <glomb> mmc - Could you tweak headers?
14:26:10 <glomb> Farshid: Will not have REST API more SOAP like.
14:26:42 <glomb> mmc: In the header consisting w/ REST
14:28:00 <glomb> glomb: Developers not using it.
14:29:14 <glomb> glomb: How does "wire format" impair RDF processing?
14:30:01 <glomb> Andrea: JSON-LD a way to express RDF
14:31:03 <glomb> Cannot translate mixed payloads.
14:31:30 <glomb> Mixing formats.
14:31:38 <McCool> q?
14:31:41 <McCool> q+
14:33:08 <glomb> mmc: What about having JSON-LD envelope?
14:34:09 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
14:34:16 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:34:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/04/19-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
14:34:19 <glomb> Farshid: What was the problem with having "outside" context?
14:35:07 <kaz> present+ Michael_Koster
14:36:23 <glomb> glomb: Should present "envelope" based pagination.
14:36:35 <mjk> mjk has joined #wot-discovery
14:36:42 <glomb> See comments in issue
14:38:03 <glomb> Andrea: JSON envelope was changed since it was incorrect.
14:39:24 <glomb> Farshid already provided a summary on pagination discussion.
14:39:45 <glomb> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/154
14:39:52 <glomb> mmc Comments
14:40:52 <glomb> Spec. is http centric. -> New issue: https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/157
14:41:40 <glomb> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/152
14:42:59 <glomb> Farshid: Found a way identifying anonymous TDs (6.2.1.1, 6.2.1.2)
14:44:09 <glomb> mmc Breaks canonicalization and signing
14:44:37 <glomb> Farshid: Must "un-enrich"
14:45:14 <glomb> To be described
14:46:37 <glomb> Enrichment needed for anon. TDs otherwise not
14:47:11 <glomb> mmc Should also be discussed in WoT-Security wrt UUID
14:48:07 <glomb> Farshid will create issue about this.
14:48:35 <glomb> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/153
14:48:52 <glomb> Header based pagination
14:49:30 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:49:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/04/19-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
14:50:06 <glomb> mmc JSONpath queries instead of envelope based pagination
14:50:30 <glomb> Header based pagination -> optional
14:51:38 <glomb> According to RFC8288
14:51:57 <glomb> Not identical to LDP paging
14:54:10 <glomb> mmc Merged for future proposal, only optional
14:54:14 <glomb> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/155
14:54:24 <glomb> Events API
14:54:32 <glomb> Section Notification
14:55:01 <kaz> i|pull/152|topic: PR 152|
14:55:13 <kaz> i|pull/153|topic: PR 153|
14:55:22 <kaz> i|pull/155|topic: PR155|
14:55:34 <glomb> mmc: Merge it to have a foundation for further discussions.
14:55:35 <kaz> s/PR155/PR 155/
14:55:39 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:55:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/04/19-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
14:56:48 <kaz> s|pull/152|pull/152 PR 152 - Add Registration ID to Enriched TD|
14:57:07 <glomb> "Anon." identifier sent along
14:57:19 <kaz> s|pull/153|pull/153 PR 153 - Listing with pagination|
14:57:47 <kaz> s|pull/155|pull/155 PR 155 - Simplifying the events API query and payload|
14:57:50 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:57:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/04/19-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
14:59:04 <glomb> mmc: Enriched TDs, identified TDs, and canonical TDs -> should appear here
14:59:37 <glomb> mmc: Signing issues to be solved later
15:00:35 <glomb> mmc: TTL is critical as well as expiry
15:01:00 <glomb> Andrea will then help with ontology
15:02:10 <glomb> Adjourned
16:56:57 <Zakim> Zakim has left #wot-discovery
17:28:31 <kaz> kaz has joined #wot-discovery
18:46:28 <zkis> zkis has joined #wot-discovery