IRC log of wot-pf on 2021-04-14

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13:05:23 [kaz]
meeting: WoT PlugFest
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present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Philipp_Blum
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present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
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scribenick: mjk_
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topic: agenda bashing
13:10:23 [kaz]
-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFest_WebConf#Agenda_14.04.2021 agenda
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topic: minutes
13:10:36 [kaz]
-> https://www.w3.org/2021/03/10-wot-pf-minutes.html March-10
13:10:38 [mjk]
topic: minutes review
13:11:05 [mjk]
mm: no objections, minutes published
13:11:19 [kaz]
i/no ob/scribenick: mjk/
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topic: review plugfest results
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s/results/report slides
13:11:57 [kaz]
-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/main/events/2021.03.Online/Results Plugfest slides
13:12:28 [mjk]
mm: any objections or corrections ?
13:13:22 [McCool]
flattening
13:13:28 [mjk]
mm: noted two typos for correction
13:14:22 [mjk]
s/two/some
13:14:58 [mjk]
mm: no objections noted, allow one more week for final review
13:15:03 [kaz]
i/any objections/topic: vF2F minutes/
13:15:19 [mjk]
topic: testfest
13:15:22 [kaz]
i|any objections|-> https://www.w3.org/2021/03/15-25-wot-minutes.html vF2F minutes|
13:15:58 [mjk]
mm: how many implementation reports?
13:16:18 [mjk]
... profile, architecture, TD, and discovery
13:17:03 [mjk]
... we need four separate plans
13:17:44 [mjk]
... testing gaps are OK if the plan addresses how to resolve the gaps
13:18:29 [mjk]
... the gaps need to be resolved by September 1st
13:19:27 [kaz]
rrsagent, make log public
13:19:32 [kaz]
rrsagent, draft minutes
13:19:32 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/04/14-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:20:03 [mjk]
ege: we should document the things that are more at risk
13:20:03 [kaz]
Chair: McCool
13:20:44 [kaz]
s/topic: minutes review//
13:21:08 [mjk]
ege: can we make a short list? new security scheme and pointer resolution scheme
13:21:10 [kaz]
s/topic: minutes/topic: minutes review/
13:21:22 [kaz]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/04/14-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:24:21 [mjk]
mm: discussion of result file locations
13:24:37 [mjk]
ege: we need to discuss the discovery testing more
13:25:15 [mjk]
mm: one issue is the two types of queries
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... we need two implementations to support both query types
13:26:14 [mjk]
ege: what about service discovery on the LAN?
13:26:39 [mjk]
mm: we can manually test service discovery
13:27:14 [mjk]
mm: we can cross-test using one implementation tests on the other
13:27:37 [mjk]
ege: what about profile testing?
13:27:47 [mjk]
mm: it could be a TD test extension
13:28:39 [mjk]
ege: we could change the logic of the assertions in the TD test
13:29:15 [mjk]
mm: there are additional assertions and need to figure out how to mark profile TDs
13:31:39 [mjk]
mm: (discussion of schedule for resolving issues over the summer)
13:33:17 [Ege]
https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/74
13:33:23 [mjk]
ege: need to mark the test assertions in the spec documents
13:33:32 [mjk]
mm: there is a css class for assertions
13:34:29 [mjk]
mm: need to sync up mid-August
13:35:09 [mjk]
ege: not available most of August and September
13:36:41 [kaz]
q+
13:36:42 [mjk]
topic: getting started tutorials and example implementations
13:37:37 [mjk]
kaz: need to fix the URI fo rthe doodle poll
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s/fo r/for /
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-> https://doodle.com/poll/mzv9x5rxsdmub5u3 doodle
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s/doodle/doodle for the June Testfest/
13:38:46 [mjk]
mm: need something besides the coffee pot that has actual hardware
13:39:00 [mjk]
... examples to show how WoT is useful
13:39:28 [mjk]
... also coverage of features in WoT
13:39:59 [mjk]
... temperature sensor, door sensor, buzzer, light?
13:41:56 [mjk]
... what are the hardware options? Raspberry Pi or M5Stack/nodemcu
13:42:12 [mjk]
... http or coap?
13:42:45 [mjk]
ege: already replied and have some examples based on ESP nodes
13:42:59 [Ege]
https://github.com/tum-esi/wot-sys/tree/master/Devices/ESP-lightsensor
13:43:02 [Ege]
https://github.com/tum-esi/wot-sys/tree/master/Devices/nodewot-sensehat
13:43:07 [Ege]
https://github.com/tum-esi/wot-sys/tree/master/Devices/ESP32-ledSwitch
13:43:29 [mjk]
mm: what is the stack used on ESP?
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ege: micropython and HTTP
13:45:38 [mjk]
philipp: had difficulty with the riotOS on windows, not for beginners
13:45:56 [mjk]
mm: the M5Stack HW uses the Arduino IDE
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mm: we should also offer a node-wot version
13:52:00 [mjk]
mm: there will be a delay in publishing the mccool examples, maybe Ege has something
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topic: any other business?
13:53:02 [mjk]
mm: please fill in the doodle poll
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mm: adjourn
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s/poll/poll for the June testfest
13:54:23 [kaz]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/04/14-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
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