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13:40:19 <addison> trackbot, prepare teleconference
13:40:22 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
13:40:25 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
13:40:25 <trackbot> Date: 01 April 2021
13:40:29 <addison> agendabot, find agenda
13:40:29 <agendabot> addison, OK. This may take a minute...
13:40:30 <agendabot> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2021Mar/0023.html
13:40:30 <agendabot> clear agenda
13:40:30 <agendabot> agenda+ Agenda Review
13:40:30 <agendabot> agenda+ Action Items
13:40:32 <agendabot> agenda+ Info Share
13:40:34 <agendabot> agenda+ RADAR Review
13:40:36 <agendabot> agenda+ Specdev changes
13:40:38 <agendabot> agenda+ String-meta “plain strings”
13:40:41 <agendabot> agenda+ AOB?
13:40:48 <addison> Chair: Addison Phillips
13:40:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/04/01-i18n-minutes.html addison
13:41:42 <addison> agenda+ no new review comment on css-cascade-4/5 but still former ones applicable
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13:59:29 <David>  present+
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14:01:23 <addison> present+
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14:01:57 <JcK> present+ JcK
14:02:12 <addison> present+ Richard, JcK, Atsushi, Fuqiao
14:03:48 <addison> agenda?
14:04:17 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 1
14:04:17 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:04:34 <addison> agenda+ geolocation
14:04:59 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 2
14:04:59 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Action Items -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:05:08 <addison> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
14:06:18 <addison> action-1012?
14:06:18 <trackbot> action-1012 -- Fuqiao Xue to Reopen geolocation 50 and add comment from working group -- due 2021-04-01 -- OPEN
14:06:18 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/1012
14:06:21 <addison> close action-1012
14:06:21 <trackbot> Closed action-1012.
14:06:31 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 3
14:06:31 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Info Share -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:06:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/04/01-i18n-minutes.html addison
14:07:07 <addison> jck: looked into if ietf has written definition of protocol elements; answer is no
14:07:37 <addison> ... "string or identifier that is embeded in the protocol and not expected to be seen by human beings except in debugging"
14:08:47 <addison> http://aphillips.github.io/charmod-norm/#def_syntactic_content
14:13:33 <addison> richard: been talking about numbers in bidi, like isbn
14:13:46 <addison> ... actually very complicated; depends on the language and the data
14:14:04 <addison> ... e.g. arabic vs. persian for a range
14:14:12 <addison> ... a hyphen differnt from period
14:14:21 <addison> (addison notes ALM)
14:14:46 <addison> richard: raised issue on font text issue from conversation with koji
14:14:56 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/font-text-cg/issues/53
14:14:59 <addison> ... he's trying to figure out how to make chrome segment indic
14:15:13 <addison> ... conjuncts common in e.g. deva
14:15:23 <addison> ... letter spacing or drop cap
14:15:43 <addison> ... proposed something radical; better not to stick with grapheme clusters
14:15:54 <addison> ... but to take whole cluster as a unit in certain scripts
14:16:06 <addison> ... if you have a visible virama use grapheme cluster
14:16:18 <addison> ... less trouble to treat as single unit
14:19:48 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 4
14:19:48 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- RADAR Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:19:57 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1
14:21:17 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3As%3Apayment-request
14:23:01 <atsushi> - re-ask this?: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5637
14:23:02 <atsushi> - this also applies, but in the same condition: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5570
14:27:35 <addison> park 5570 for discussion next week
14:28:28 <addison> agenda+ epub comments
14:28:30 <addison> agenda?
14:28:57 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 8
14:28:58 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- no new review comment on css-cascade-4/5 but still former ones applicable -- taken up [from addison]
14:29:07 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 9
14:29:08 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- geolocation -- taken up [from addison]
14:29:12 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/geolocation-api/issues/50
14:29:34 <addison> xfq: discussed before, it's the error message for position error
14:29:43 <addison> ... it's for developers to debug but not for end users
14:30:09 <addison> ... don't want to remove and don't feel incentive to add lang/dir
14:30:23 <addison> ... just added a note to say "not intended for end users"
14:31:05 <addison> richard: meant for developers, which means that they have to speak english
14:31:33 <addison> addison: or chinese if that's how they run their server
14:50:04 <addison> https://w3c.github.io/geolocation-api/#position_error_interface
14:57:37 <addison> action: addison: comment on geolocation 50 about on going discussion of i18n on this topic
14:57:37 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1013 - Comment on geolocation 50 about on going discussion of i18n on this topic [on Addison Phillips - due 2021-04-08].
14:57:41 <addison> agenda?
14:58:19 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 6
14:58:19 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- String-meta “plain strings” -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:58:48 <addison> unnatural language strings
14:59:33 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 7
14:59:33 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- AOB? -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:59:52 <addison> richard: remind xfq+atsushi to look at lreq publishing process
15:00:00 <addison> s/lreq/gap analysis/
15:00:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/04/01-i18n-minutes.html addison
15:01:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/04/01-i18n-minutes.html addison
15:01:57 <addison> zakim, bye
15:01:57 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been David, addison, JcK, Richard, Atsushi, Fuqiao
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15:02:07 <addison> present+ Bert
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