IRC log of rqtf on 2021-03-31

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Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference

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Date: 31 March 2021

12:50:51 [jasonjgw]

agenda+ RAUR and XAUR update on the CfC.

12:50:51 [jasonjgw]

agenda+ Media synchronization research.

12:50:51 [jasonjgw]

agenda+ Making Content Usable for People with Cognitive and Learning Disabilities update.

12:50:54 [jasonjgw]

agenda+ Accessibility of natural language interfaces.

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agenda+ Miscellaneous updates and topics relevant to Task Force work.

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12:51:11 [jasonjgw]

present+

12:51:18 [jasonjgw]

chair: jasonjgw

12:51:27 [janina]

present+

12:52:02 [janina]

Meeting: Research Questions Task Force (RQTF)

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present+ John_Paton

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13:01:45 [joconnor]

present+

13:02:35 [janina]

scribe: janina

13:02:53 [scott_h]

present+

13:03:01 [jasonjgw]

zakim, next item

13:03:01 [Zakim]

agendum 1 -- RAUR and XAUR update on the CfC. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]

13:03:39 [joconnor]

JS: There are two CFCs

13:03:51 [joconnor]

Most have voted on only one

13:04:03 [joconnor]

We have one per document

13:04:08 [jasonjgw]

Janina notes there are two CfCs - one for each document, to be responded to separately.

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present+

13:04:25 [joconnor]

Not too late for vote - open till Friday

13:04:34 [joconnor]

present+

13:07:17 [janina]

js: Notes most people haven't voted on both CfCs, only one. Should have made that more obvious, but it's not too late!

13:13:23 [Judy]

present+

13:17:56 [SteveNoble]

FYI - I am being pulled into another meeting that begins at 9:30 Eastern

13:18:52 [jasonjgw]

CfCs are open until midnight Boston time on Friday.

13:19:39 [jasonjgw]

zakim, next item

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agendum 2 -- Media synchronization research. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]

13:20:03 [joconnor]

JW: still working on...

13:20:13 [joconnor]

Great contribs from Steve

13:20:52 [joconnor]

SN: The part that is slowing me down is Sign Language Interp

13:21:14 [joconnor]

I've reached out to a deaf colleague and gotten feedback

13:21:38 [joconnor]

As well as intros to other related work by my colleague which is relevant

13:21:57 [joconnor]

Am learning a lot

13:22:11 [joconnor]

<gives overview on time lag and interp errors>

13:22:46 [joconnor]

Some delay and latency is good - into to interp effectively

13:23:24 [joconnor]

It can help reduce error

13:23:55 [joconnor]

Difficult in live meetings

13:24:12 [joconnor]

Am writing up findings

13:24:41 [joconnor]

am getting there

13:24:44 [joconnor]

JS: Sounds good

13:25:18 [joconnor]

If we can make a recommendation on this - this will be helpful

13:25:44 [joconnor]

SN: Gotta drop

13:26:01 [joconnor]

JW: Thanks for your good work on this

13:27:15 [joconnor]

<various lols >

13:27:30 [joconnor]

JW: Mentioned Grammar variances

13:27:49 [joconnor]

SN: Discusses latency variance

13:28:04 [joconnor]

JW: Thanks Steve

13:28:28 [jasonjgw]

zakim, next item

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agendum 3 -- Making Content Usable for People with Cognitive and Learning Disabilities update. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]

13:28:54 [joconnor]

JW: There is a CFC coming soon

13:29:10 [joconnor]

JS: I dont know where this ended up - seems like close but not sure

13:29:26 [joconnor]

JS: Expecting outreach

13:29:49 [joconnor]

JW: Be aware it is coming, and please do review

13:30:05 [joconnor]

JS: It is a big doc

13:31:52 [joconnor]

JS: It would be better if structure improved

13:32:42 [joconnor]

Others have similar suggestions to me

13:32:53 [joconnor]

JW: I've also reviewed and +1 to Janina

13:33:22 [joconnor]

Dividing it up, or a clearer outline of structure and relationships would be good

13:34:01 [joconnor]

Still time to review

13:34:15 [jasonjgw]

zakim, next item

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agendum 4 -- Accessibility of natural language interfaces. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]

13:34:41 [joconnor]

JW: Work is progressing

13:34:58 [joconnor]

Ref to latest text is in agenda...

13:35:13 [joconnor]

I've added some cognitive a11y reqs to the draft...

13:35:30 [joconnor]

John P made some good comments on reorg of input and output reqs

13:35:35 [joconnor]

q+

13:36:12 [joconnor]

JW: There are cognitive issues added

13:36:15 [joconnor]

ack me

13:36:43 [janina]

jo: Have merged Jason's changes into main

13:36:58 [janina]

jo: let's focus on main in our work now

13:37:41 [joconnor]

JW: There is a lot to cover, and it would be useful to give time for review and comment on the draft

13:37:51 [joconnor]

That covers issues so far.

13:38:15 [joconnor]

JS: Sounds good - we want a FPWD

13:38:26 [joconnor]

So we need to have substance in there.

13:38:47 [joconnor]

JW: Yes, its a way off, but if we give it some attention we can then make that step

13:38:58 [joconnor]

We can also insert editors notes

13:39:10 [joconnor]

JOC: Logging issues in GitHUb is also a good.

13:39:21 [joconnor]

With the NAUR lable

13:40:03 [joconnor]

s/lable/label

13:40:36 [joconnor]

JS: We have heard suggestions for edits

13:40:48 [joconnor]

branches and PRs etc, also file GH issue.

13:41:02 [joconnor]

JS: Anyone here OK, with filing issues?

13:41:16 [joconnor]

JB: I can log issues but not PRs.

13:41:33 [joconnor]

John and Jason would be up for some demo/training of how to do that.

13:41:45 [joconnor]

JB: We should be doing this all the time.

13:42:23 [joconnor]

JS: That ability of working with the code - is really helpful - but you need a comfortable way of doing it.

13:42:39 [joconnor]

JP: I've issues of getting GH on my work machine.

13:43:16 [joconnor]

JOC: You can use your browser

13:43:56 [joconnor]

JS: There are lots of options, and also a11y probs with some

13:44:14 [joconnor]

<distinguishes Git from GH>

13:44:42 [joconnor]

JW: John do you want to create issues based on that?

13:44:45 [joconnor]

JP: I can

13:45:05 [joconnor]

<discusses branches and commits etc>

13:45:43 [joconnor]

JS: Offering helpful alternatives is useful

13:45:53 [joconnor]

So branching allows this.

13:46:28 [joconnor]

<disusssion of editing setups>

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and workflow...

13:48:08 [joconnor]

JS: getting to the right repo can be a problem

13:48:20 [joconnor]

But good for issue

13:49:03 [joconnor]

JOC: I like using issues for tracking

13:49:18 [joconnor]

JS: Using markdown is good

13:49:42 [joconnor]

JW: Markdown also supported in comments area

13:50:51 [joconnor]

JS: Branching tuts?

13:50:59 [joconnor]

JW: You'd like to do that?

13:51:02 [joconnor]

JS: Yes

13:51:46 [joconnor]

<discussion of editors>

13:54:10 [joconnor]

agenda?

13:54:27 [joconnor]

JS: Anyone want to focus on areas or just review?

13:55:02 [joconnor]

SH: Regarding GitHub etc doesn' work well with my screen mag set up

13:55:21 [joconnor]

Any tuts for visual a11y would be helpful

13:55:47 [joconnor]

JW: We could discuss outside the meeting - when looking at branches and changes

13:56:00 [joconnor]

+1 to using text editor bash etc

13:56:46 [joconnor]

JB: We do need to better explain how our tools work

13:58:07 [joconnor]

JW: We can work on various issues

13:58:44 [jasonjgw]

zakim, next item

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agendum 5 -- Miscellaneous updates and topics relevant to Task Force work. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]

13:58:44 [joconnor]

JOC: I like the idea of getting review of sections of the NAUR

13:59:12 [joconnor]

JS: Scott is working on a11y of remote meetings etc

13:59:45 [joconnor]

JS: We also have an a11y concern - came from Jeanne, about transcripts

13:59:55 [joconnor]

May prevent access

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JB: There is a default that can be overriden

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JS: So we can do this?

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JB: There could be a provision for this.

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JS: I'll have a look and be up to speed

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JB: If there is a problem let me know

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14:02:36 [jasonjgw]

zakim, bye

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leaving. As of this point the attendees have been jasonjgw, janina, John_Paton, joconnor, scott_h, SteveNoble, Judy

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