IRC log of apa on 2021-03-31
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- Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 31 March 2021
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- agenda?
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- Chair: Janina
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- agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements; MQ Video; Charter Update
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- agenda+ Task Force Updates; CfC Reminder
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- agenda+ FAST Progress
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- agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
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- agenda+ Horizontal Review Issues Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
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- agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
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- agenda+ Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
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- agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
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- agenda+ Other Business
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- agenda+ be done
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- present+
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- regrets: Amy, Frederik
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- agenda?
- 15:59:55 [MichaelC]
- present+
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- present+
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- present+
- 16:02:23 [Gottfried]
- present+
- 16:02:48 [becky]
- present+
- 16:04:06 [janina]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements; MQ Video; Charter Update -- taken up [from janina]
- 16:04:18 [Fazio]
- scribe: Fazio
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- present+
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- Janina: old specs need attention
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- Janina: student presentation from a few weeks ago on poly fill will be published soon
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- Janina: Charter moving forward to formal consideration
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- Janina: Silver - can transcripts be viewed on braille or screen reader?
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2 -- Task Force Updates; CfC Reminder -- taken up [from janina]
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- present+
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- Present+
- 16:10:15 [Fazio]
- COGA wants more time
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- 2 separate CFC's not 1 CFC for 2 specs
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- CFC open till midnight Boston on Friday
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- scribe: JF
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- Fazio: COGA is looking for more time to comment on RAUR - they have a fair number of comments to submit
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- janina: suggest you let them advance and comment on the 1.0 version
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- agreed that if there were a small number of edits we could make the changes, but if there are a large number of comments we don't want to delay publication
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- We need these requirements to integrate into other specs
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- especially RTC - exposing some critical needs
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- so other groups are waiting on us
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- Fazio: COGA will meet tomorrow, will relay the concern and will get back
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- Fazio: would you be open for both? quick comments edits now, and more details later?
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- janina: concerned that getting Content usable out the door will delay this other task
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- Fazio: how are you defining RTC? Who is doing that?
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- janina: the WebRTC WG at W3C
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- they have split their spec into 2 parts, to advance as quickly as possible
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- Fazio: will investigate further
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- janina: Glad to see COGA showing back up at these meetings. Note that all of this is also announced widely on WAI-announce
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- ja: to report on RQTF which is also COGA related
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- they are looking at helper agents in voice assistance (the A lady, etc.)
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- apparently COGA have a document on that already - waiting for that too
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- present+
- 16:22:32 [Fazio]
- scribe: Fazio
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- JF: ongoing discussion about token values in Personalization
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- JF: misunderstanding with Internationalization
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- https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/6519
- 16:23:33 [janina]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 3 -- FAST Progress -- taken up [from janina]
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- Janina: would like a pointer to conversation
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- Josh: advancing user needs in functional needs group. Survey coming out on context of needs and additive value
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- MC: revised user needs still in draft form
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 4 -- New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 -- taken up [from janina]
- 16:26:21 [joconnor]
- http://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/user-needs-restructure/fast/index.html#collected-user-needs
- 16:26:26 [MichaelC]
- https://w3c.github.io/lds-wg-charter/index.html
- 16:27:26 [Fazio]
- MC: Declined to review
- 16:31:16 [Fazio]
- MC: LW: a11y of these tools has been dealt with sufficiently to have minimum impact
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- s/MC: LW: a11y/LW: a11y
- 16:32:02 [Fazio]
- thx Becky
- 16:34:03 [Fazio]
- LW: interested in accessible authentication
- 16:35:04 [janina]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 5 -- Horizontal Review Issues Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review -- taken up [from janina]
- 16:36:23 [Fazio]
- MC: Do we need a new issue for keyboard collapsible expand?
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- MC: Media Queries waiting for a response to close
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 6 -- new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from janina]
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- MC: no new publications
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- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 6 closed
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- I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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- 7. Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned [from janina]
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 7 -- Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned -- taken up [from janina]
- 16:39:30 [Fazio]
- MC: 47 assigned issues. No progress
- 16:40:36 [MichaelC]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Rules_for_Simple_Placement_of_Japanese_Ruby
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- MC: MC: asked Makoto to review ruby
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- Janina: no known complaints
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- Janina proposes to close
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- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Fetch_Metadata_Request_Headers
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- JF: tracks back to CSS issue
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- the Ruby/CSS issue: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-review/issues/55
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- MC: no a11y specific implications
- 16:45:01 [MichaelC]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Image_Resource
- 16:45:51 [Fazio]
- JF: done reviewing. Some changes were made. Included calculating image resource acceptable name
- 16:46:11 [MichaelC]
- close action-2284
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- Closed action-2284.
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- close action-2256
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- Closed action-2256.
- 16:46:15 [Fazio]
- Janina, MC: close 2284 2256
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- https://github.com/w3c/image-resource/issues/39
- 16:46:34 [MichaelC]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Feature_Policy
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- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/File_API
- 16:47:45 [Fazio]
- MC: I will handle
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- MC: accessibility impact statement to be drafted by Janina
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- MC: unless not needed
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- Janina: not sure
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- Becky: unsure also
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- Janina: drop it? objectons?
- 16:51:27 [Fazio]
- LW: low level process. Janina concurs
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- MC: user interface developed around API makes aa difference. Makes it important
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- MC: does that mean impact statement is more relevant
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- LW: Maybe provide low level impact statement. Becky maybe make it generic and reusable. MC: "don't mess up UI!
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- action-2212
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- action-2212 -- David Fazio to Draft accessibility impact statement for file api -- due 2019-09-18 -- OPEN
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- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2212
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- Action item for Faziio https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/File_API
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- Error finding 'item'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/users>.
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- zakim, take up item 9
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- agendum 9 -- Other Business -- taken up [from janina]
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- Janina: any AT users view transcript?
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- LW: any TR security privacy section accessibility considerations is sample
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- rrsagent make minutes
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- zakim, take up item 9
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- agendum 9 -- Other Business -- taken up [from janina]
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/03/31-apa-minutes.html Fazio
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- janina has changed the topic to: APA Teleconference; Wednesday 7 April at 1600Z
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