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15:58:12 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Fonts Working Group Teleconference
15:58:12 <trackbot> Date: 16 March 2021
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15:59:54 <Vlad> present+
16:00:13 <Vlad> Regrets: Jason Pamental
16:00:24 <sergeym> present+
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16:07:12 <Garret> https://github.com/w3c/PFE-analysis/blob/main/design/patch_subset_protocol_v3.md#codepoint-reordering
16:08:17 <chris> zakim, pick a victim
16:08:17 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Garret
16:08:20 <chris> zakim, pick a victim
16:08:20 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Garret
16:08:23 <chris> zakim, pick a victim
16:08:24 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Garret
16:08:29 <chris> oh come on
16:08:47 <Garret> zakim, pick a victim
16:08:47 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Garret
16:09:05 <chris> zakim, seed() :)
16:09:05 <Zakim> I'm glad that smiley is there, chris
16:13:59 <Garret> garret explaining the two changes to sparse bit sets to reduce size.
16:15:43 <Vlad> present+ Mark Ayasse
16:21:18 <Vlad> Discussion of the experimental results documented at https://github.com/w3c/PFE-analysis/blob/main/results/set_encoding_branch_factor.md
16:30:23 <Garret> Vlad: if you had to pick one branch factor (so no variable) which one?
16:30:38 <Garret> Garret: 4 is probably the best, set sizes are usually going to be the smallest
16:30:58 <Garret> Garret: if we use variable the encoder could use a heuristic or test the different factors
16:31:24 <Garret> Vlad: picking between the two will take some time, probably not justified by the savings.
16:31:54 <Garret> Garret: ok, so sounds like we will stick with just 4
16:32:33 <Garret> Garret: likewise for the intervals lets stick with the current method and not introduce a second mechanism for encoding intervals.
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16:33:45 <Vlad> Topic: codepoint injection
16:33:49 <Vlad> See https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/6063#issuecomment-797426308
16:34:39 <Garret> Next topic, should developers be able to manually request extra codepoints?
16:35:57 <Garret> Main use case I see is when developer may know what content is coming in the future.
16:36:58 <Garret> Vlad: my concern is you start by sending a request for  a specific set of codepoints. The process stays the same regardless of where they came from. For the incremental loading we don't care.
16:37:24 <Garret> Vlad: so seems like an orthogonal issue.
16:39:36 <Garret> Garret: my feelings is this doesn't need to be part of the spec, but could be added later to either the font loading api and/or css specs.
16:39:59 <Garret> Chris: will we be leaving it up to the browser to decide what to request.
16:44:09 <Garret> Garret: current plan is to continue working on spec, who wants to review.
16:44:16 <Garret> Vlad: I can.
16:44:27 <Garret> Vlad: call next week?
16:44:31 <Garret> Garret: probably not.
16:45:01 <Vlad> rrsagent, make minutes
16:45:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/03/16-webfonts-minutes.html Vlad
16:45:02 <Garret> Garret: will send email.
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16:48:33 <Vlad> present+ Chris
16:48:36 <Vlad> rrsagent, make minutes
16:48:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/03/16-webfonts-minutes.html Vlad