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14:47:49 <addison> trackbot, prepare teleconference
14:47:52 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
14:47:54 <addison> agendabot, find agenda
14:47:54 <agendabot> addison, OK. This may take a minute...
14:47:55 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
14:47:55 <trackbot> Date: 11 March 2021
14:47:55 <agendabot> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2021Mar/0008.html
14:47:55 <agendabot> clear agenda
14:47:55 <agendabot> agenda+ Agenda Review
14:47:55 <agendabot> agenda+ Action Items
14:47:57 <agendabot> agenda+ Info Share
14:47:59 <agendabot> agenda+ RADAR Review
14:48:01 <addison> Chair: Addison Phillips
14:48:01 <agendabot> agenda+ Payment Request review
14:48:03 <agendabot> agenda+ Specdev changes
14:48:06 <agendabot> agenda+ AOB?
14:48:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/03/11-i18n-minutes.html addison
14:49:38 <addison> agenda+ no issues found on html-aria, move to "completed"
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14:58:07 <addison> regrets+ JcK
15:00:32 <addison> present+ Addison, Fuqiao, Atsushi
15:01:42 <addison> present+ Felix, Richard
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15:02:00 <fsasaki> present+
15:03:36 <addison> agenda?
15:03:44 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 1
15:03:44 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:03:54 <addison> agenda+ a11y responses
15:04:08 <addison> agenda+ what time is this meeting at
15:04:21 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 2
15:04:21 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Action Items -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:04:29 <addison> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
15:05:43 <addison> action-1004?
15:05:44 <trackbot> action-1004 -- Richard Ishida to Publish qa-direction-from-langauge for wide review -- due 2021-03-11 -- OPEN
15:05:44 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/1004
15:05:47 <addison> close action-1004
15:05:47 <trackbot> Closed action-1004.
15:06:06 <addison> reopen action-1004
15:06:06 <trackbot> Re-opened action-1004.
15:08:16 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 3
15:08:16 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Info Share -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:08:42 <addison> we did get a response from Mark on actions 996, etc.
15:09:22 <addison> richard: looks like blink is about to publish a ver of browser that contains counter styles
15:09:44 <addison> richard: florian and fantasai have started working on ruby for html
15:09:55 <addison> ... hope we can sort it in the html spec!
15:10:24 <addison> richard: in my personal time I wrote this thing
15:10:35 <addison> ... and I tweeted it and it got tons of love
15:10:43 <r12a> https://r12a.github.io/scripts/apps/conjunct_generator/
15:10:50 <addison> richard: conjunct generator
15:10:51 <r12a> https://r12a.github.io/scripts/apps/vowel_signs/
15:11:00 <addison> ... and consonent-vowel generator
15:11:13 <addison> ... idea is that you use a preset or provide your own data
15:11:32 <addison> ... gens a matrix that shows possible conjuncts
15:11:41 <addison> ... can see what fonts support what
15:15:39 <addison> felix: (showing a PDF)
15:16:03 <addison> ... hoping to get input on the matrix developed by this group
15:16:55 <r12a> https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/getting-started/languagedev.en
15:17:10 <addison> richard: been working on the website to make it easier for lang enablement people to get involved. start at link above
15:19:35 <r12a> agenda?
15:19:53 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 10
15:19:53 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- what time is this meeting at -- taken up [from addison]
15:20:07 <addison> https://www.w3.org/2017/09/i18n-meeting-info.html
15:21:56 <fsasaki> s/PDF/PDF about a course syllabus: i18n and l10n topics, using a lot of material from the i18n activtiy and richard's tools. Students then may able to provide input to language matrix and the material can be re-used later/
15:23:08 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 3
15:23:08 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Info Share -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:23:12 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 4
15:23:12 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- RADAR Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:23:20 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1
15:24:34 <addison> action: addison: reply to aria that we've completed our review
15:24:35 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1005 - Reply to aria that we've completed our review [on Addison Phillips - due 2021-03-18].
15:24:59 <addison> richard: (info share) PLH has started implementing something regarding horizontal review requests
15:25:12 <addison> ... what he said was "no more emails to request reviews"
15:25:20 <xfq> https://www.w3.org/Guide/documentreview/#how_to_get_horizontal_review
15:25:26 <addison> ... hopefully that will be good
15:29:55 <addison> agenda?
15:30:15 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 9
15:30:15 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- a11y responses -- taken up [from addison]
15:31:00 <addison> felix: they basically said no to the additional persona and one from fuqiao
15:31:27 <addison> xfq: cognitive problems for some writing systems; they said they'd consider in 2nd edition
15:32:04 <addison> richard: one of the things is that PLH and the director find open issues
15:32:09 <fsasaki> response related to the persona: https://github.com/w3c/coga/issues/246#issuecomment-794015032
15:32:25 <addison> ... if we say "okay" and close with "recycle" label, then it is no longer visible to the director
15:32:59 <addison> ... if we left it open
15:33:01 <fsasaki> response related to layout: https://github.com/w3c/coga/issues/248#issuecomment-794008112
15:36:56 <fsasaki> +1 to adding a note about an additional persona
15:37:26 <addison> addison: "temporary  disabilities"
15:37:30 <addison> ... maybe a note
15:38:52 <addison> action: richard: reply to coga issue with a proposed note addition to the text
15:38:52 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1006 - Reply to coga issue with a proposed note addition to the text [on Richard Ishida - due 2021-03-18].
15:40:41 <addison> richard: want to keep a sticker here
15:40:47 <addison> xfq: agree
15:41:17 <addison> first note then recyle (no close)
15:41:47 <addison> xfq: mine is only a tracker issue
15:41:55 <addison> richard: needs resolution?
15:42:00 <atsushi> +1
15:42:12 <addison> yes
15:42:33 <addison> agenda?
15:43:22 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 6
15:43:22 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- Specdev changes -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:43:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/03/11-i18n-minutes.html addison
15:44:00 <r12a> https://w3c.github.io/bp-i18n-specdev/NEW.html
15:44:08 <addison> richard: been busy this week sorting specdev
15:44:29 <addison> ... this is the revised version, ready to go
15:45:04 <addison> ... checklist generator is at the top
15:45:13 <addison> ... toc is 3 levels instead of 2
15:45:35 <addison> ... lists of links to docs with lilac background were at section ends, moved up
15:45:48 <addison> ... removed obsolete docs
15:46:15 <addison> ... each "advisement" has its own set of "legs"
15:46:45 <addison> ... click on gray "more" thing shows where you're going and what it is
15:46:49 <addison> ... can have mulitple links
15:47:21 <addison> ... making these links is really easy
15:48:03 <addison> ... two types "more" and "explanations and examples"
15:48:39 <addison> ... latter are mainly charmod, now takes to nearest sub section
15:48:59 <addison> ... more stuff is additional links, like to bcp47 or an article about grapheme clusters
15:49:17 <addison> ... needed to understand, just things useful for that comment
15:49:27 <addison> addison: cases with both?
15:49:29 <addison> richard: yes
15:53:50 <addison> addison: self-links give new tab?
15:53:54 <addison> richard: will disable
15:57:19 <addison> action: richard: publish new specdev, incorporating existing PRs, fixings self-links, and update TR
15:57:20 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1007 - Publish new specdev, incorporating existing prs, fixings self-links, and update tr [on Richard Ishida - due 2021-03-18].
15:57:50 <addison> richard: next steps would be to turn this doc into "the checklist"
15:57:57 <addison> ... as opposed to
15:59:09 <addison> https://www.w3.org/International/techniques/developing-specs
16:03:39 <addison> agenda?
16:03:53 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 7
16:03:53 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- AOB? -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:05:01 <addison> rrsagent, make minutes
16:05:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/03/11-i18n-minutes.html addison
16:05:05 <addison> zakim, who is here?
16:05:05 <Zakim> Present: Addison, Fuqiao, Atsushi, Felix, Richard, fsasaki
16:05:07 <Zakim> On IRC I see fsasaki, Zakim, RRSAgent, addison, atsushi, r12a, bigbluehat, fantasai, florian, agendabot, hadleybeeman, hsivonen, Mek_, Bert, astearns, cwilso, sangwhan, cbiesinger,
16:05:07 <Zakim> ... koji, trackbot
16:05:12 <addison> present+ Bert
16:05:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/03/11-i18n-minutes.html addison
16:05:19 <addison> zakim, bye
16:05:19 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been Addison, Fuqiao, Atsushi, Felix, Richard, fsasaki, Bert
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