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18:57:49 <trackbot> Meeting: WAI Coordination Call Teleconference
18:57:49 <trackbot> Date: 10 March 2021
18:58:38 <Judy> agenda+ Scribe, rrsagent, agenda check, confirming next meeting, present+
18:58:38 <Judy> agenda+ Reminder to your groups of upcoming daylight saving time changes
18:58:38 <Judy> agenda+ Is your AC rep aware of your work? Upcoming W3C AC meeting TPAC format input all set?
18:58:38 <Judy> agenda+ WAI team doing some reflection on direction and priorities, input on technical and outreach issues?
18:58:39 <Judy> agenda+ Further comments on WCAG 3.0, after reviewing more, and after comments? (Links reminders WCAG 3.0 FPWD , Introduction , Blog , Call for Review , Comments to date  )
18:58:40 <Judy> agenda+ Upcoming work and publications https://www.w3.org/WAI/cc/wiki/WAI_Announcement_Drafts
18:58:42 <Judy> agenda+ Reminder APA charter review
18:58:44 <Judy> agenda+ Rescheduling meeting with Immersive captions for the Web CG (Captions in VR and AR)
18:58:46 <Judy> agenda+ Incubation topics, lazy commitment https://github.com/w3c/strategy/projects/2
18:58:48 <Judy> agenda+ AOB?
18:58:53 <Judy> zakim, clear agenda
18:58:53 <Zakim> agenda cleared
18:58:56 <Judy> agenda+ Scribe, rrsagent, agenda check, confirming next meeting, present+
18:58:56 <Judy> agenda+ Reminder to your groups of upcoming daylight saving time changes
18:58:58 <Judy> agenda+ Is your AC rep aware of your work? Upcoming W3C AC meeting TPAC format input all set?
18:59:02 <Judy> agenda+ WAI team doing some reflection on direction and priorities, input on technical and outreach issues?
18:59:04 <Judy> agenda+ Further comments on WCAG 3.0, after reviewing more, and after comments? (Links reminders WCAG 3.0 FPWD , Introduction , Blog , Call for Review , Comments to date  )
18:59:07 <Judy> agenda+ Upcoming work and publications https://www.w3.org/WAI/cc/wiki/WAI_Announcement_Drafts
18:59:09 <Judy> agenda+ Reminder APA charter review
18:59:11 <Judy> agenda+ Rescheduling meeting with Immersive captions for the Web CG (Captions in VR and AR)
18:59:13 <Judy> agenda+ Incubation topics, lazy commitment https://github.com/w3c/strategy/projects/2
18:59:15 <Judy> agenda+ AOB?
18:59:17 <Judy> zakim, that looks much better, thanks
18:59:17 <Zakim> I don't understand 'that looks much better, thanks', Judy
19:01:17 <Judy> zakim, don't worry about it
19:01:17 <Zakim> I don't understand 'don't worry about it', Judy
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19:05:29 <Judy> agenda+ CSUN hallway discussions?
19:05:49 <janina> present+
19:06:23 <janina> scribe: janina
19:07:27 <Judy> zakim, take up next
19:07:27 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Scribe, rrsagent, agenda check, confirming next meeting, present+ -- taken up [from Judy]
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19:07:29 <janina> jb: Any additions for the agenda?
19:07:32 <becky> present+
19:07:33 <janina> [crickets]
19:07:41 <Judy> agenda order is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9,
19:08:25 <janina> jb: Asks for any regrets for 24 March?
19:08:43 <janina> jb: Could be me--but wanted to check. I'll be here.
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19:08:55 <Rachael> present+
19:08:59 <janina> present+
19:09:03 <Kim_patch> Present+
19:09:40 <Judy> q?
19:09:51 <Judy> ack g
19:09:54 <Judy> ack j
19:09:54 <Zakim> janina, you wanted to note APA availed joint mtgs, but not APA only business
19:10:05 <Judy> zakim, take up next
19:10:05 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Reminder to your groups of upcoming daylight saving time changes -- taken up [from Judy]
19:10:28 <janina> jb: Daylight Time starts Sunday in most of North America
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19:11:15 <janina> jb: Asks whether any issues?
19:11:59 <Judy> ... and then two weeks later in Europe...
19:12:32 <janina> jb: Reminds usefulness to reinforce time change shortly before mtg. People forget
19:13:33 <Judy> zakim, take up next
19:13:33 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Is your AC rep aware of your work? Upcoming W3C AC meeting TPAC format input all set? -- taken up [from Judy]
19:13:47 <janina> mc: Have localized time built into Zoom data pages
19:14:32 <janina> jb: Reminds of AC mtg in April -- W3C member reps
19:14:51 <janina> jb: Suggests updating AC reps with WAI work you're engaged in
19:16:51 <Judy> zakim, take up next
19:16:51 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- WAI team doing some reflection on direction and priorities, input on technical and outreach issues? -- taken up [from Judy]
19:17:01 <brent> present+
19:17:22 <Judy> present+
19:18:54 <janina> jb: Expecting more in depth WAI Team priorities/direction discussion over coming weeks
19:19:15 <janina> jb: Wanting to give others an opportunity to raise issues for staff to reflect on ...
19:19:27 <janina> jb: This is looking forward over the next few years ...
19:19:43 <Rachael> q+
19:20:22 <Judy> q+ Becky
19:20:28 <Judy> ack Becky
19:20:52 <Rachael> +1 to a joint glossary. We see that in silver and coga too
19:20:54 <janina> bg: Recalls desire for WAI-wide glossary. We have need in various docs.
19:21:14 <janina> bg: Would be helpful to build into our docs by reference
19:22:22 <Judy> q+ Janina
19:22:56 <janina> rm: Looking for increasing emphasis on COGA, but also mental health. Not sure how it fits, but something to consider
19:23:35 <Rachael> q-
19:24:51 <janina> js: Notes need for registry in some TF specs
19:25:09 <jeanne> q+ to affirm to continue to emphasize tooling
19:25:41 <janina> jeanne: Need to make our tools more accessible, needs to remain a priority
19:27:09 <janina> jb: Notes regression in Doodle polling
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19:28:13 <janina> jb: Asks for any tooling suggestions? Is this a good ongoing topic?
19:28:37 <Kim_patch> + Tools more accessible these to remain a priority
19:28:55 <janina> jeanne: Suggests license for Google, so we could have protected data in Googld Docs use
19:29:30 <Judy> JB: isn't that also partly inaccessible?
19:29:42 <Judy> JSp: depends on disability
19:30:19 <Kim_patch> q
19:30:20 <janina> jeanne: Notes have not found one tool that fits all; even within disability category
19:30:51 <janina> jn: Aren't there also geographic restrictions in Google Docs
19:30:55 <janina> sl: Yes
19:31:24 <janina> kd: Switching around is tough for speech input
19:31:33 <jeanne> last I heard, there were.  But if we let people with disabilities use the tools that they need to work in, and find the ways to make it work within W3C.
19:32:32 <janina> kd: Suggests starting with GD; and enabling transformation to other representations
19:33:24 <brent> q+ to say familiarity
19:33:35 <brent> Same as what Kim just said
19:33:37 <janina> kd: Speaks up for tools people are accustomed to using
19:34:44 <janina> Brent: New tools are always a learning process; Now we fractured because of so many tools in soo many orgs
19:35:30 <janina> jb: Don't expect a solution from brief discussion; but good to discuss
19:35:45 <janina> Brent: Maybe not solution, but perhaps more mangeable
19:35:52 <Judy> q?
19:36:16 <Judy> ack j
19:36:16 <Zakim> jeanne, you wanted to affirm to continue to emphasize tooling
19:36:20 <Judy> ack je
19:36:23 <Judy> ack br
19:36:23 <Zakim> brent, you wanted to say familiarity
19:36:36 <Judy> agenda?
19:36:49 <Judy> zakim, take up next
19:36:49 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, Judy
19:37:15 <janina> q?
19:37:19 <janina> ack janina
19:37:23 <janina> zakim, next item
19:37:23 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Further comments on WCAG 3.0, after reviewing more, and after comments? (Links reminders WCAG 3.0 FPWD , Introduction , Blog , Call for Review , Comments to date  ) --
19:37:26 <Zakim> ... taken up [from Judy]
19:38:32 <janina> jb: Wonders whether there are priority issues that need broader discussion?
19:38:35 <jeanne> q+
19:38:40 <janina> ack jeanne
19:38:54 <Judy> s/where there are/which are the/
19:39:02 <janina> jeanne: Just what I'm working on; porting email comments into github issues
19:39:18 <janina> jeanne: have several hundred comments from all around the world
19:39:41 <janina> jeanne: have feedback through regular channels but also through intros to the FPWD that we're doing
19:39:49 <janina> jeanne: a bit overwhelming
19:40:15 <janina> jeanne: Encouraging is various regulatory laudits; Mostly positive
19:40:29 <Judy> s/laudits/comments/
19:40:48 <janina> jeanne: Still working on scoring
19:41:21 <janina> jeanne: Hopeful response from U.S. Trusted Testor and Access Board
19:41:40 <janina> jb: Requests heads up when working with AB
19:41:46 <janina> jeanne: Yes, invited back in June
19:42:21 <Rachael> q+
19:42:40 <janina> ack r
19:43:06 <janina> rm: Continuing to explore conformance model and also interaction between the medals levels
19:43:31 <janina> rm: Comments have given us a direction for next months
19:44:01 <janina> jb: To what extent is conformance and testing the same? Related?
19:44:06 <janina> rm: Venn diagram
19:44:29 <janina> jeanne: mostly overlapping
19:44:49 <janina> jeanne: much of what is conformance has moved into scoring
19:44:51 <Judy> q?
19:45:12 <Judy> zakim, next
19:45:12 <Zakim> I don't understand 'next', Judy
19:45:18 <Judy> zakim, next item
19:45:18 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- Upcoming work and publications https://www.w3.org/WAI/cc/wiki/WAI_Announcement_Drafts -- taken up [from Judy]
19:45:53 <janina> [crickets]
19:46:04 <janina> jb: Latest time frame on Content Usable?
19:46:24 <janina> rm: In COGA CfC; APA next Wednesday; also survey at AG next week
19:46:30 <janina> rm: so maybe a few weeks
19:47:09 <Rachael> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/coga/consistency_checks/content-usable/index.html
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19:47:54 <janina> jb: Asks about coordination with Shawn on messaging?
19:48:08 <janina> rm: Lisa and Roy working on drafts
19:48:27 <Judy> zakim, next item
19:48:27 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- Reminder APA charter review -- taken up [from Judy]
19:49:05 <janina> jb: Asks again if others would like to review?
19:49:31 <Rachael> I read it. I appreciate them keeping coga in
19:49:31 <janina> s/asks whether/can please confirm/
19:50:24 <janina> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2021/charter.html
19:50:26 <Rachael> I think its this https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2021/charter.html
19:50:38 <Judy> zakim, next item
19:50:38 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- Rescheduling meeting with Immersive captions for the Web CG (Captions in VR and AR) -- taken up [from Judy]
19:51:32 <janina> jb: Has strong deaf community participation
19:51:50 <janina> jb: getting more interested in other WAI and W3C work
19:52:16 <janina> jb: Expressing interest in getting involved in other groups
19:52:23 <janina> jb: So, trying to reschedule this call
19:52:34 <jeanne> q+ to ask for help with WCAG3 Captions from Immersive Captions
19:52:41 <Rachael> I can join depending on timing
19:53:12 <janina> jb: Looking for participants next Wednesday 17 March
19:53:21 <Rachael> Next Wednesday I can join at 12:30 EST
19:53:27 <brent> Any way to get the invite to join the meeting without "joining" the community group?
19:53:50 <janina> jeanne: Would like to connect more closely; captioning guideline is vector to indicate including XR in WCAG 3
19:54:02 <Judy> agenda?
19:54:54 <janina> jn: Like to join just for general interest; probably not much relevant to ARIA
19:54:58 <jeanne> ack jea
19:54:58 <Zakim> jeanne, you wanted to ask for help with WCAG3 Captions from Immersive Captions
19:55:08 <brent> I am out all next week on vacation, but happy to join at a later time.
19:56:37 <janina> jb: Reminds APA about community group review
19:57:19 <janina> jb: Wondering any informal networking in virtual CSUN?
19:57:36 <brent> lazy commitment = "relaxed commitment"?? just an idea to pass along.
19:58:05 <janina> jeanne: AxCon has reasonable seminar tool: slido
19:58:34 <brent> s/AxCon/axe-con/
19:58:35 <jamesn> s/AxCon/axe-con/
19:58:59 <janina> jb: Were you able to interact with others in the session?
19:59:09 <janina> jeanne: There are active chat channels
19:59:19 <janina> jn: But many complaints, too
19:59:55 <janina> zakim, bye
19:59:55 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been George, Jemma, shawn, tzviya, brentb, jeanne, janina, James, Kim_patch, becky, Rachael, brent, Judy
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