13:09:25 RRSAgent has joined #wot-uc 13:09:25 logging to https://www.w3.org/2021/03/09-wot-uc-irc 13:09:29 meeting start 13:09:34 ok, that link does seem to work, but I don't know why it was delayed like that 13:10:42 Meeting: WoT Use Cases 13:10:49 chair: Lagally 13:11:20 ml: We changed the branch master to main. Please change your local branch. 13:11:21 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool, Philipp_Blum, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tomoaki_Mizushima 13:11:30 cperey has joined #wot-uc 13:11:38 Sorry to be tardy 13:11:40 i/We/topic: Preliminary/ 13:11:45 present+ Christine Perey 13:12:27 present+ Georg Schneider 13:12:39 present+ Georg_Schneider 13:12:44 ml: Minutes from last time. 13:12:54 present- Georg Schneider 13:13:15 I'm logging. I don't understand 'doesn't identify " " between the names', kaz. Try /msg RRSAgent help 13:13:31 present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch 13:13:43 topic: Prev minutes 13:14:07 s/ml: Minutes from last time.// 13:14:40 ml: Any change requests, any objections, before it gets published? 13:14:57 ml: I hear no objections, so it gets published. 13:15:15 i|Any|-> https://www.w3.org/2021/02/23-wot-uc-minutes.html Feb-23| 13:15:46 q+ 13:16:37 topic: Use case note publication 13:17:16 Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_UseCase_WebConf#Agenda_9.3. 13:17:19 q- 13:18:07 ml: 2 week review starts from now, and publication decision during the vF2F 13:19:01 resolution: 2 week review starts from now (after the call) and publication decision during the vF2F 13:20:11 ml: Let's take a look into the PRs. 13:20:22 topic: Linked building data use case 13:20:52 s/topic: Linked building data use case// 13:20:57 i/Let's/topic: Linked building data use case/ 13:21:07 philip_tran has joined #wot-uc 13:21:44 Linked building data use case -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/102 13:22:13 i/topic: Linked/(discussion on March 18 and final decision on March 25)/ 13:22:21 rrsagent, make log public 13:22:26 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:22:26 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/03/09-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz 13:23:26 q+ 13:23:48 gs: In this use-case with focused on leverage things model. 13:23:58 ml: is it a standard? 13:24:12 gs: It isn't a standard. 13:24:38 i/topic: Linked/topic: PR 102 - Linked/ 13:25:39 -> https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/wot-usecases/102/7fb6cbc...w3c-lbd-cg:61e26b2.html#smart-building-things 4.12.1 Linking Smart Building Things and BIM Models 13:27:41 rrsagent, make log public 13:27:47 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:27:47 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/03/09-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz 13:28:26 i/We changed the/scribenick: citrullin/ 13:28:28 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:28:28 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/03/09-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz 13:29:04 s/ml: 2 week/scribenick: kaz/ 13:29:30 s/topic: PR 102 - Linked// 13:29:43 q+ 13:29:43 s/topic: Linked/topic: PR 102 - Linked/ 13:29:49 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:29:49 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/03/09-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz 13:30:57 s/scribenick: kaz review/ml: 2 week review/ 13:31:05 i/ml: 2 week/scribenick: kaz/ 13:31:26 i/Let's take a look/scribenick: citrullin/ 13:31:30 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:31:30 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/03/09-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz 13:31:46 gs: the goal of the use-case is to show how to automate commisson of control algorithms. 13:31:51 mc: We need to align with the discovery for that. 13:32:01 q? 13:32:27 gs presents the PR in detail 13:33:14 q+ 13:34:07 ml: Sorry for jumping over you, mc, but it feels more relaxed to let the author present the PR first. 13:34:50 mc: I have a question. Are these examples based on a product or a thought experiment? 13:35:06 gs: It is based on an open source project. 13:35:41 ... but the extention is based on a though experiment. 13:35:48 https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/blob/main/proposals/geolocation.md 13:35:49 ack m 13:35:57 s/though/thought/ 13:37:13 mc: Let's discuss this further. Let's merge it for now and continue working on it. 13:37:14 we do not hear you Georg 13:37:43 s/we do not hear you Georg// 13:40:16 W.r.t. different protocols we reference dependendies to https://w3c.github.io/wot-binding-templates/ protocol bindings 13:40:41 present+ Herve_Pruvost 13:41:19 (Georg and Herve are guests from the Linked Smart Building CG) 13:41:34 present+ Philip_Tran 13:41:42 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:41:42 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/03/09-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz 13:42:04 q? 13:42:23 Georg and Hervé are members of W3C Linked Building Data Group 13:42:37 kaz: The content is great. On the other hand. In the use-case context it should have a different title. 13:42:58 mc: That is a great point. 13:43:08 gs: I like the suggestion. 13:45:13 kaz: @@ 13:45:35 Link to Open Smart Home Dataset -> https://github.com/TechnicalBuildingSystems/OpenSmartHomeData 13:45:49 s/@@/regarding your affiliations, please let me check the W3C procedure within the Team./ 13:46:05 ml: I merge it as it is. We can change the title etc. later on. 13:46:18 s/hand. In/hand, in/ 13:46:50 s/different title/more application-specific title from the user's viewpoint/ 13:47:31 q+ 13:47:35 q- 13:48:41 mc: I agree on commenting out incomplete things and work on it. 13:48:49 s/as it is./as it is once Kaz get clarification on the affiliations./ 13:50:01 i/I agree/topic: PR 110/ 13:50:15 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/110 PR 110 - Preparing WG note publication 13:50:54 -> https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/110.html Preview 13:52:01 q? 13:52:03 ack m 13:53:07 mc: like kaz's comment, the title of "4.3.1 Smart Building" sounds too broad 13:53:38 ... maybe the category 4.3 could be "Smart Buildings" and the use case 4.3.1 should have a more application-specific title 13:54:26 mc: Going back to retail. Is it one big use-case? I would leave it for now like it is. But I would like to break it up in the future. 13:54:39 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:54:39 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/03/09-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz 13:55:19 i/like kaz/scribenick: kaz/ 13:55:29 i/Going/scribenick: citrullin/ 13:55:31 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:55:31 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/03/09-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz 13:56:14 mc: Transportation includes public transportation and logistics. We can leave it for now, but it should be in automotive. 13:56:22 i/regarding your aff/scribenick: kaz/ 13:56:41 i/I merge it/scribenick: citrullin/ 13:56:45 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:56:45 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/03/09-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz 13:57:38 sk: Coming back to the automotive. I talked to BMW and they would like to add a use-case for the ontoloy. I cannot guarantee the timing for getting it done. 13:59:42 s/automotive/automotive use-case/ 14:00:21 mc: We have some ascii diagrams. We should make real diagrams in the future. 14:00:35 ml: I agree. For the moment it is better than nothing. 14:01:52 mc: Short codes for the use-case is useful for refering to them in the requirements. For now I would supress them, it reduces the noise. 14:03:21 ml: I will merge it for now then. So that people can work on it with PRs. 14:24:58 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:24:58 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/03/09-wot-uc-minutes.html citrullin 16:00:40 Zakim has left #wot-uc