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19:58:58 <PWinstanley> chair: CBurle
19:59:15 <PWinstanley> regrets+ Antoine, Alejandra, RiccardoAlbertoni
19:59:32 <PWinstanley> meeting: DXWG Plenary
19:59:35 <PWinstanley> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2021.03.09
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20:09:34 <Caroline_> Scribe: Rachel
20:09:42 <Caroline_> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2021.03.09
20:10:01 <Rachel> proposed: accept minutes https://www.w3.org/2021/02/23-dxwg-minutes
20:10:21 <Caroline_> +0
20:10:37 <Rachel> +1
20:10:41 <PWinstanley> +1
20:10:42 <AndreaPerego> +1
20:12:06 <Rachel> resolved:  accept minutes https://www.w3.org/2021/02/23-dxwg-minutes
20:12:20 <Rachel>  RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
20:12:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/03/09-dxwg-minutes.html Rachel
20:13:48 <Rachel> TOPIC:Subgroup DCAT update
20:14:08 <Caroline_> https://www.w3.org/2021/03/03-dxwgdcat-minutes
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20:14:24 <AndreaPerego_> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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20:16:42 <Rachel> Discuss the model using mainly is PAV, added classes and properties to the DCAT namespace, as PAV is not a maintaining versioning. This is a discussion not just around how to implement sequential versioning but also the language. There is a progress but not completed. There is a demand for guidance. The group making an effort to provide version in the dcat
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20:19:16 <Rachel> Data Series : (Andrea)  How to formulize a definition of the data series. there are different positions, in the current draft there are not major changes.
20:20:19 <Rachel> (PWinstanley) github is very active and many discussions
20:21:27 <Rachel>  (Caroline_) No further updates from other subgroups
20:21:45 <AndreaPerego> s/(Caroline_)/Caroline:/
20:21:55 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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20:22:04 <Rachel> TOPIC:GitHub Housekeeping
20:22:27 <AndreaPerego> q+
20:22:43 <Caroline_> ack AndreaPerego
20:25:32 <kcoyle> q+
20:25:43 <Caroline_> ack kcoyle
20:25:45 <Rachel> AndreaPerego : The DCAT subgroup trying to promote some house keeping on those issue. ... There are issues that we just forgot to close and there are some issues which are not relevant or old. ... The profile vocabulary, we can ask Rob or Antuone to move the issues to the right repository. ... There are more than 200 open issue and at least half of them had no discussion in the last year or more.
20:25:56 <AndreaPerego> s/Data Series : (Andrea)/AndreaPerego: About dataset series, /
20:26:59 <AndreaPerego> s/Discuss the model using mainly/PWinstanley: Discuss the model using mainly/
20:27:02 <Rachel> kcoyle: A decision on many of these issues: its need to be a recorded decision what was decided and those issues need to stay in GitHub
20:27:14 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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20:27:26 <annette_g> +1 to kcoyle
20:27:41 <Rachel> All open issues need to be documented not just PROF
20:27:55 <Caroline_> +1 to kcoyle
20:28:00 <AndreaPerego> s/(PWinstanley) github/PWinstanley: github/
20:28:00 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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20:28:03 <PWinstanley> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/labels/out%20of%20scope
20:28:21 <PWinstanley> The label already exists, but hasn't been used
20:28:51 <annette_g> q+
20:29:08 <Rachel> Caroline_: Can we set a deadline for documenting the scope if we cross that deadline we can consider another approach. Allowing enough time and after that bring back to the Plenary
20:29:26 <Caroline_> ack annette_g
20:29:31 <Caroline_> +q
20:29:49 <Caroline_> ack Caroline_
20:30:13 <kcoyle> sounds good
20:30:19 <Rachel> annette_g: The emphasize should be on finding a solution  per  issue and add a time line for the solution
20:30:35 <AndreaPerego> q+
20:30:45 <Caroline_> ack AndreaPerego
20:30:54 <Rachel> Caroline_: Keep github housekeeping on future meeting agena
20:32:04 <Caroline_> s/agena/agenda
20:32:05 <annette_g> +1 for considering "out of scope" as a possible solution
20:32:30 <Caroline_> q+
20:32:43 <kcoyle>  q+
20:32:52 <Rachel> AndreaPerego: I find many of the issue with out a use case, we need evidence to make sure there is a delivery and if not we should close the issue. Or we park all those issues or to not loose control we should prioritize them
20:33:35 <Caroline_> ack Caroline_
20:33:38 <Caroline_> ack kcoyle
20:33:48 <AndreaPerego> I think we should seriously consider reviewing at least some of the issues during the plenary.
20:33:55 <Rachel> Caroline_: How do we decide what is out of scope we, initially my thought was to bring to the Plenary and document on Github
20:34:26 <annette_g> q+
20:34:26 <Caroline_> +1 to consider reviewing at least some of the issues during the plenary
20:34:31 <Caroline_> ack annette_g
20:34:34 <Rachel> kcoyle: My concern this group cannot make a decision on these amount of issue (100+). The editors should make the first iteration
20:35:05 <Rachel> annette_g: Maybe some of the issue can be group to topic we already decided that are out of scope .
20:35:07 <Caroline_> q?
20:35:14 <AndreaPerego> q+
20:35:18 <Caroline_> ack AndreaPerego
20:37:09 <Rachel> AndreaPerego: Can we add a resolution today, the editor will contacted to add information and then restart the review ?
20:37:12 <Rachel> +q
20:37:16 <Caroline_> ack Rachel
20:38:16 <kcoyle> I agree with Andrea's wording
20:38:27 <Rachel> Rachel: Is there a minimum set of information to request from the editors?
20:38:40 <Caroline_> q?
20:38:49 <annette_g> PROPOSED: editors will review existing open issues for scope and potential closing, and group them as possible for review by the plenary.
20:38:50 <Rachel>  AndreaPerego: We need to match the issues to deliveries initially
20:39:07 <AndreaPerego> +1 (thanks, annette_g)
20:39:17 <Caroline_> +1
20:39:18 <annette_g> +1
20:39:20 <Rachel> +1 (thanks you, annette_g)
20:39:25 <kcoyle> +1
20:39:29 <PWinstanley> +1
20:39:42 <Rachel> resolved: editors will review existing open issues for scope and potential closing, and group them as possible for review by the plenary.
20:39:48 <kcoyle> q+
20:39:51 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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20:39:52 <Caroline_> ack kcoyle
20:40:22 <AndreaPerego> q+
20:40:29 <Caroline_> ack AndreaPerego
20:40:32 <Rachel> kcoyle: Regarding Andrea's statement , this group will not take the profile guidance , was that discussed in the group?
20:41:01 <Rachel> AndreaPerego: This wasnt my intention. Asking for Peter's feedback
20:42:02 <Rachel> PWinstanley: The difficulty we dont have the full group , and we cannot have much contribution from Nick,Rob,Simon some good engagement in Github and very few meetings
20:43:15 <Rachel> Caroline_: Proposing we can take a look on Github and reach the wider group directly for help to contribute with their expertise.
20:43:40 <Rachel> Anyone else has another suggestion? No
20:43:41 <AndreaPerego> s/deliveries /deliverables /
20:43:57 <Caroline_> q?
20:43:59 <AndreaPerego> s/Anyone else has another suggestion? No/... Anyone else has another suggestion? No/
20:44:14 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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20:44:30 <Rachel> TOPIC: Time of the DXWG Plenary meetings
20:46:20 <Rachel> Caroline_: The current time is not suitable for Australia . Ricardo suggested doodle . The US start Daylight saving time this month
20:46:40 <AndreaPerego> q+
20:46:44 <Caroline_> ack AndreaPerego
20:46:45 <Rachel> Today we are 20:00 PM UTC
20:47:47 <Rachel> AndreaPerego: Personally I prefer to keep the old meeting time, it was always decided to keep the same time.
20:49:53 <annette_g> q+
20:49:58 <Caroline_> ack annette_g
20:50:05 <Rachel> Caroline_: From March 28, 21:00 UTC. Lets do a doodle. Then we have a better feedback.
20:50:37 <Rachel> annette_g: I don't see a way a doodle , I have a conflict every other week.
20:51:24 <Rachel> If we keep the same time for me it becoming a conflict
20:51:52 <Rachel> s/a doodle /to do a doodle /
20:52:35 <Rachel> Caroline_: For me its also to keep the members that are active and contribute to be able to join the meeting
20:54:14 <annette_g> oh phooey, I just noticed another conflict with the other other weeks :(
20:54:33 <annette_g> so don't worry about which week it is
20:55:06 <Rachel> PROPOSED: Plenary meeting time : a doodle from March 28:  UTC 20:00     UTC 21:00     UTC 22:00
20:55:15 <kcoyle> +1
20:55:16 <Caroline_> +1
20:55:19 <Rachel> +1
20:55:21 <annette_g> +1
20:55:26 <PWinstanley> +!
20:55:29 <PWinstanley> +1
20:55:55 <AndreaPerego> +1
20:56:03 <Rachel> Resolved: Plenary meeting time : a doodle from March 28:  UTC 20:00     UTC 21:00     UTC 22:00
20:56:44 <Rachel> Next meeting March 23rd 21:00 UTC
20:57:43 <PWinstanley> rrsagent, create minutes v2
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20:58:08 <PWinstanley> Bye
20:58:22 <AndreaPerego> Thanks, bye bye
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