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15:02:55 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Discovery_WebConf#8_March_2021
15:03:03 <kaz> meeting: WoT Discovery
15:03:32 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Christian_Glomb, Farshid_Tavakolizadeh, Kunihiko_Toumura
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15:06:28 <FarshidT> topic: minutes
15:06:36 <kaz> scribenick: FarshidT
15:07:10 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2021/03/01-wot-discovery-minutes.html March-1
15:07:35 <FarshidT> no objections. Publishing minutes.
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15:09:25 <FarshidT> topic: discussions points
15:09:43 <FarshidT> kaz: ongoing discussion related to pagination in the scripting API
15:10:02 <kaz> s/ongoing/some/
15:10:08 <kaz> s/API/API today/
15:10:26 <FarshidT> ca: streaming of TDs instead of paginating
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15:11:59 <FarshidT> mmc: incremental loading of TDs, need to match the underlying networking protocol
15:12:38 <FarshidT> kaz: small devices may need to extract TD fragments/elements one by one
15:13:16 <FarshidT> mmc: scripting API can use JSONPath to select parts of the TD
15:13:48 <FarshidT> mmc: maybe JSONPath should be added an optional feature for self-describing devices
15:13:55 <kaz> s/one by one/one by one, but the Scripting TF wanted to know about the detailed use case scenario before thinking about the details. that was today's discussion./
15:14:10 <FarshidT> s/added an/added as an/
15:15:10 <FarshidT> mmc: There is PR to clarify fragment from element
15:15:51 <FarshidT> s/clarify/distinguish/
15:18:24 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
15:18:30 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:18:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/03/08-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
15:19:51 <kaz> present+ Andrea_Cimmino, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Tomoaki_Mizushima
15:19:55 <kaz> Chair: McCool
15:20:25 <FarshidT> ft: if self-describing device cannot perform the filtering, it should reject to avoid surprise on the client side (unexpected model, size)
15:20:56 <FarshidT> ca: the filtering could be on a dedicated endpoint, similar to the TDD
15:22:55 <FarshidT> Issue: https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/130
15:23:34 <FarshidT> s/130/132/
15:25:07 <FarshidT> topic: plugfest outcome
15:26:18 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/issues/122 wot-testing issue 122 - Create Outcomes Presentation for 2021.03 Plugfest
15:26:52 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:26:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/03/08-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
15:28:19 <kaz> mm: wonders if the next plugfest is in October during TPAC
15:28:39 <kaz> kaz: if we don't schedule any additional meetings, yes
15:29:01 <kaz> ... probably we need to hold testfests to check the implementation status, though
15:29:30 <FarshidT> ft: need to focus on closing critical issues, before implementing more
15:30:06 <cris> +1
15:30:18 <FarshidT> mmc: we could remove less important features
15:30:42 <FarshidT> mmc: pagination could be removed.
15:31:32 <FarshidT> ac: adding pagination to ontology is not appropriate. We can try to remove the pagination from ontology and move the headers
15:31:50 <FarshidT> s/the/them/
15:32:25 <FarshidT> ac: commented on https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/54#issuecomment-792660587
15:32:42 <McCool> https://www.w3.org/TR/ldp-paging/
15:32:58 <FarshidT> mmc: Linked Data Platform Paging is a note, not a standard
15:33:23 <FarshidT> ac: this means we need to rely on the protocol for pagination
15:33:31 <FarshidT> s/ac/ca/
15:34:31 <FarshidT> ca: other protocols may have their own pagination mechanism
15:35:49 <FarshidT> ac: this is an http solution, we don't need to worry about other hypothetical protocols
15:36:00 <FarshidT> mmc: need to also check if we can paginate within a TD
15:37:50 <FarshidT> mmc: we have to make a decision on this, latest by March 29th
15:39:42 <FarshidT> ft: the header-based proposal was similar. Since we need to rely on HTTP headers and spec and return a plain array, there is not much to decide.
15:40:05 <FarshidT> cg: can we support several mechanisms? Not just one?
15:41:01 <FarshidT> ca: shouldn't other responses also support pagination?
15:41:18 <FarshidT> s/responses/endpoints/
15:41:51 <FarshidT> mmc: pagination annotation in TD may be useful
15:42:11 <FarshidT> topic: cancellations
15:42:39 <FarshidT> mmc: no calls in the next two, due to conflicts with F2F
15:44:14 <FarshidT> mmc: we need to continue working on the issues and create PRs in the meantime
15:44:18 <kaz> s/two,/two weeks,/
15:44:42 <McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/PRESENTATIONS/2021-03-online-f2f
15:45:20 <FarshidT> topic: F2F slides
15:45:25 <FarshidT> upload to https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/PRESENTATIONS/2021-03-online-f2f
15:46:30 <FarshidT> mmc: discovery meeting is on Mar 17th (next Wednesday)
15:48:30 <FarshidT> topic: JSONPath
15:51:37 <FarshidT> mmc: need to change the reference in the draft
15:52:00 <McCool> update JSONpath ref to point at draft-ietf-jsonpath-jsonpath/
15:53:03 <FarshidT> topic: PR Updated ontology source code, diagrams, and spec text
15:53:06 <FarshidT> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/127
15:55:01 <FarshidT> ac: Removed the id from RegistrationInfo, because if there is an id there, it would be the RegistrationInfo's ID, not the TD
15:56:08 <FarshidT> mmc: the context URL need to change in future to use the w3.org domain
15:56:46 <FarshidT> kaz: the current URL is fine for the editor's draft
15:59:10 <FarshidT> no objections to merging
15:59:22 <kaz> s/draft/draft, but what concrete URL do we want to use for the "update"?
16:00:48 <FarshidT> topic: PR updates to geolocation proposal
16:00:51 <FarshidT> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/128
16:02:27 <FarshidT> topic: PR Specify additional responses
16:02:36 <FarshidT> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/131
16:03:10 <FarshidT> merged
16:03:32 <kaz> [adjourned]
16:03:37 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:03:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/03/08-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
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