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14:52:41 <addison> trackbot, prepare teleconference
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14:52:47 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
14:52:47 <trackbot> Date: 25 February 2021
14:52:55 <addison> Chair: Addison Phillips
14:53:04 <addison> agendabot, find agenda
14:53:04 <agendabot> addison, OK. This may take a minute...
14:53:04 <agendabot> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2021Feb/0009.html
14:53:04 <agendabot> clear agenda
14:53:04 <agendabot> agenda+ Agenda Review
14:53:04 <agendabot> agenda+ Action Items
14:53:07 <agendabot> agenda+ Info Share
14:53:09 <agendabot> agenda+ RADAR Review
14:53:11 <agendabot> agenda+ Payment Request review
14:53:13 <agendabot> agenda+ Charmod case folding, et al
14:53:16 <agendabot> agenda+ AOB?
14:53:19 <addison> agenda+ Use cases for bidi and language metadata on the Web
14:53:29 <addison> agenda+ truncation requirements in specdev
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14:55:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/02/25-i18n-minutes.html addison
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15:00:21 <addison> present+
15:00:49 <addison> present+ Fuqiao, David, Richard
15:00:56 <addison> present+ Atsushi
15:01:28 <addison> present+ Felix
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15:01:45 <addison> agenda?
15:02:10 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 1
15:02:10 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:03:17 <addison> present+ Bert
15:03:49 <addison> agenda+ review updated personas of coga-usable
15:04:12 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/coga/issues/246
15:04:55 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 2
15:04:55 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Action Items -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:05:03 <addison> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
15:06:41 <addison> action-997?
15:06:41 <trackbot> action-997 -- Richard Ishida to Publish typographic character units in complex scripts for wide review -- due 2021-02-25 -- OPEN
15:06:41 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/997
15:06:49 <addison> close action-997
15:06:49 <trackbot> Closed action-997.
15:07:01 <addison> action-998?
15:07:01 <trackbot> action-998 -- Addison Phillips to Clean up early review column -- due 2021-02-25 -- OPEN
15:07:01 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/998
15:07:08 <addison> close action-998
15:07:08 <trackbot> Closed action-998.
15:07:58 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 3
15:07:58 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Info Share -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:08:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/02/25-i18n-minutes.html addison
15:08:33 <addison> fuqiao: miniapp is discussion i18n architecture
15:08:44 <addison> ... discussed 3 proposals
15:09:04 <addison> ... one similar to webapp manifest, one similar to json-ld, and one new one
15:09:53 <r12a> q+
15:10:18 <addison> ack r12a
15:10:41 <addison> richard: moving forwards on website providing proxy links to github
15:11:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/02/25-i18n-minutes.html addison
15:16:43 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 4
15:16:43 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- RADAR Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:16:52 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1
15:17:24 <r12a> agenda+ Tracking progress on language enablement
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15:22:29 <David> present+ Najib
15:23:55 <addison> agenda?
15:24:55 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 8
15:24:55 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- Use cases for bidi and language metadata on the Web -- taken up [from addison]
15:25:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/02/25-i18n-minutes.html addison
15:25:15 <r12a> https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/lang-bidi-use-cases/index.en
15:25:36 <addison> richard: did a fair bit of rewrite on this
15:25:44 <addison> ... homogenizing the two parts of the doc
15:26:01 <addison> ... added another example to the ebook catalog at the top
15:27:26 <addison> ... would like to send for wide review
15:28:35 <addison> https://www.w3.org/International/articles/strings-and-bidi/
15:30:51 <r12a> ACTION: r12a to link between https://www.w3.org/International/articles/strings-and-bidi/ and https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/lang-bidi-use-cases/index.en
15:30:54 <trackbot> Created ACTION-999 - Link between https://www.w3.org/international/articles/strings-and-bidi/ and https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/lang-bidi-use-cases/index.en [on Richard Ishida - due 2021-03-04].
15:31:15 <addison> action: richard: publish lang-bidi-use-cases for wide review
15:31:16 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1000 - Publish lang-bidi-use-cases for wide review [on Richard Ishida - due 2021-03-04].
15:31:35 <r12a> agenda+ Publish segmentation article
15:31:49 <addison> agenda?
15:32:09 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 9
15:32:09 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- truncation requirements in specdev -- taken up [from addison]
15:32:20 <addison> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2021Feb/0013.html
15:32:55 <addison> https://www.w3.org/TR/international-specs/#char_trunc_byte_boundary
15:38:28 <xfq> DOM issue: https://github.com/whatwg/dom/issues/933
15:38:37 <addison> agenda?
15:38:40 <Bert> +1 to mentioning the DOM explicitly
15:39:04 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 10
15:39:04 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- review updated personas of coga-usable -- taken up [from addison]
15:39:21 <addison> fuqiao: may not finish today?
15:39:37 <addison> ... felix reviewed their spec and we gave comments
15:39:46 <addison> agenda?
15:39:59 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 12
15:39:59 <Zakim> agendum 12 -- Publish segmentation article -- taken up [from r12a]
15:40:12 <r12a> https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/questions/qa-indic-graphemes.en.html
15:40:22 <addison> richard: sent typographic scripts for wide review
15:40:28 <addison> ... a few comments from norbert
15:40:46 <addison> ... some technical points
15:41:03 <atsushi> comment -> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-drafts/issues/276
15:43:02 <addison> action: richard: publish qa-indic-graphemes
15:43:03 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1001 - Publish qa-indic-graphemes [on Richard Ishida - due 2021-03-04].
15:43:46 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 11
15:43:46 <Zakim> agendum 11 -- Tracking progress on language enablement -- taken up [from r12a]
15:44:04 <addison> richard: talked to sponsors of lang enablement
15:44:13 <addison> ... the i18n initiative
15:44:32 <addison> ... from this point try to capture where things stand, are we waiting on a spec or browsers, etc
15:44:42 <addison> ... get an idea of movement
15:44:53 <addison> ... some things have dropped off gap analysis because fixed
15:44:56 <addison> ... good to track that
15:44:57 <r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/3
15:45:01 <addison> ... wondering how to do
15:48:23 <addison> fuqiao: some issues very similar, e.g. <q>
15:48:48 <addison> richard: could have created a generic issues repo, but too difficult to follow
15:49:32 <addison> ... one issue per repo, taken it some of the way
15:49:54 <addison> ... have to have issue twice because of diff requirements or slight diffs
15:52:22 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 10
15:52:23 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- review updated personas of coga-usable -- taken up [from addison]
15:52:31 <addison> felix: had a quick look at what they wrote
15:52:35 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/coga/issues/246
15:52:53 <addison> ... initial comment was about adding a persona for life situation, e.g. non-fluency
15:53:02 <addison> ... they haven't taken that up
15:53:38 <addison> ... good to propose more detailed text, could make a proposal
15:54:28 <addison> action: felix: update coga issue 246 with proposed text
15:54:29 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1002 - Update coga issue 246 with proposed text [on Felix Sasaki - due 2021-03-04].
15:58:23 <addison> https://w3c.github.io/coga/persona/
15:58:56 <addison> (all the names are western names)
16:03:28 <addison> action: fuqiao: check personas for writing system problems like vertical, non-spacing, et al as discussed in teleconference
16:03:30 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1003 - Check personas for writing system problems like vertical, non-spacing, et al as discussed in teleconference [on Fuqiao Xue - due 2021-03-04].
16:04:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/02/25-i18n-minutes.html addison
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18:50:57 <addison> zakim, bye
18:50:57 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been addison, Fuqiao, David, Richard, Atsushi, Felix, Bert, Najib
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