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15:11:32 <Ege> sk: Anything else for the agenda?
15:11:51 <Ege> mm: we should schedule the release of the next PR candidate
15:12:46 <Ege> Topic: Minutes Review
15:13:00 <kaz> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Thing_Description_WebConf#Feb_24.2C_2021
15:13:15 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2021/02/17-wot-td-minutes.html Feb-17
15:13:51 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan, Michael_Koster, Michael_McCool
15:16:56 <Ege> sk: any objections?
15:17:46 <Ege> sk: no objections to make the minutes public
15:18:01 <Ege> ... I propose to have no meeting  next week and focus on the plugfest
15:18:13 <Ege> ... and also get familiar with the new features
15:18:18 <Ege> ... any objections?
15:18:30 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
15:18:30 <Ege> ... cancelled!
15:19:16 <kaz> i/I propose/topic: Cancelling the next call/
15:19:21 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
15:19:28 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:19:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/02/24-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
15:20:05 <Ege> sk: we should look at the master -> main change in the repository
15:20:16 <Ege> ege: it says that the PRs are updated accordingly
15:20:39 <McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/114
15:20:42 <kaz> Chair: Sebastian
15:20:50 <kaz> regrets+ Michael_Lagally
15:21:37 <Ege> mm: everything should be fine, others should update their environment (github and local) though
15:21:41 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
15:21:55 <kaz> s/114/114 wot-discovery PR 114 (as an example)/
15:22:12 <McCool> PRs do seem to autoupdate and this PR worked
15:22:18 <kaz> Meeting: WoT-WG - TD-TF
15:22:23 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:22:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/02/24-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
15:23:34 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Renaming_Master_to_Main repository management instruction
15:25:53 <Ege> sk: (renames master to main)
15:26:36 <Ege> Topic: CR/PR scheduling
15:26:56 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Deliverable_and_F2F_Meeting_Plan publication plan
15:31:55 <Ege> sk: mm, what is your opinion on the stability of the security features
15:33:31 <Ege> mm: except for what ege has commented, it is stable. For some other things, I am waiting the feedback of the security TF
15:33:47 <Ege> sk: I don't feel the same for the TM, we need more experimentation
15:35:02 <Ege> mm: we should get a working draft by end of march
15:35:09 <kaz> s/TM/Thing Model/
15:35:12 <Ege> ... then CR end of april
15:35:31 <kaz> s/a working/an updated working/
15:37:14 <kaz> -> https://w3c.github.io/spec-releases/milestones/ Milestone calculator
15:38:32 <Ege> sk: so updating FPWD to WD?
15:38:35 <Ege> mm: yes
15:40:13 <kaz> s/FPWD to WD/the publication date for CR/
15:41:02 <kaz> i/so /kaz: publishing an updated WD in March is fine, but we need to see the deadline for the CR as well, e.g., late April./
15:46:23 <Ege> sk: I would say mid April for WS
15:46:38 <Ege> s/ for WS / for WD
15:50:26 <kaz> [May the 4th with us for the CR publication :)]
15:50:37 <Ege> sk: may the 4th for the CR
15:50:58 <Ege> may the force be with us to respect the deadlines!
15:52:44 <Ege> Topic: Collecting Topics for next VF2F
15:53:47 <Ege> sk: who came up with this topic called "optimizing TDs by TM references"
15:54:36 <Ege> mm: this was about making TDs smaller, requested by the profiles TF
15:54:58 <kaz> i|who|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_March_2021#Thing_Description TD topics during vF2F|
15:57:09 <Ege> mm: overview of the features would be great
15:59:43 <Ege> Topic: PRs
15:59:51 <Ege> sk: PR 1042
16:00:00 <Ege> mm: it is ready to merge
16:03:46 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1042
16:03:58 <dape> q+ to contentType being array
16:04:45 <Ege> mm: there are no example yet
16:05:08 <Ege> mm: ege or sebastian you had some examples, could you post in the PR
16:05:33 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
16:05:53 <kaz> s|1042|1042 PR 1042 - Add additionalResponses to Form|
16:06:53 <Ege> q?
16:07:04 <Ege> sk: not sure about having schema in the forms
16:07:52 <dape> ack dape
16:07:52 <Zakim> dape, you wanted to contentType being array
16:08:14 <Ege> dp: I was puzzled about array type of contenttype but then saw that it is the case in normal forms as well
16:09:03 <Ege> sk: this showed up "out of nowhere"
16:13:29 <Ege> q+
16:16:42 <Ege> mk: different protocols can have different errors
16:17:22 <sebastian> I will reconnect
16:18:11 <McCool> mjk, I think you need to leave and reconnect
16:18:14 <Ege> it seems that michael koster has the delay problem, his audio comes when he is marked muted
16:18:23 <McCool> webex is doing weird things, long delay, echos, etc
16:19:33 <McCool> ok, my audio is also delayed
16:19:33 <sebastian> we should all reconnect
16:19:49 <McCool> I want to answer ege but delay is messing things up
16:19:50 <cris> ok let's do it
16:19:54 <sebastian> it seems some network problems
16:19:56 <McCool> going to drop and reconnect
16:20:36 <Ege> I would like to blame webex :D
16:21:16 <McCool> kaz, I think you, as host, need to drop and reconnect to restart the entire session
16:21:17 <cris> there was like minutes of delay :d
16:21:32 <Ege> yeah
16:21:36 <McCool> I dropped and reconnected but it did not solve the problem
16:21:38 <McCool> kaz?
16:21:54 <Ege> yeah kaz can you restart it
16:21:56 <McCool> ok...
16:21:56 <Ege> nice! :)
16:21:59 <sebastian> it seems the problem is still there
16:22:01 <cris> thanks
16:23:05 <sebastian> Kaz, let us know when you have restart webex
16:25:50 <cris> q?
16:25:55 <cris> q+
16:27:49 <sebastian> ack e
16:31:35 <Ege> mm: omitting contentType means that it is the same as the request
16:32:00 <Ege> mm: we have also talked about renaming it to errorResponses
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16:32:18 <mjk> q?
16:32:33 <sebastian> acl c
16:32:36 <sebastian> ack c
16:33:12 <Ege> cris: how should client distinguish different points
16:33:37 <Ege> mm: there is text that says that there should be a way to distinguish
16:37:02 <Ege> mk: how to use validators here
16:39:31 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
16:39:36 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:39:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/02/24-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
16:42:42 <kaz> (PR 1042 has been merged)
16:42:46 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1042 PR 1042
16:43:06 <kaz> topic: PR 1049
16:43:31 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1049 PR 1049 - TM Schema generation
16:44:05 <dape> q+ to do you plan to add TM validation to playground?
16:48:39 <dape> ack dape
16:48:40 <Zakim> dape, you wanted to do you plan to add TM validation to playground?
16:51:58 <kaz> (PR 1049 merged)
16:52:16 <kaz> topic: PR 1058
16:52:31 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1058 PR 1058 - Add JSON pointer assertion to definition of body sec location
16:55:10 <kaz> sk: (adds "WIP" to the title of the PR 1058)
17:00:32 <kaz> topic: PR 1062
17:00:48 <Ege> thank you kaz! :)
17:00:53 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1062 PR 1062 - TD schema restrictions
17:03:08 <kaz> (PR 1062 will be merged after Ege's typo fix)
17:03:14 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1062#issuecomment-785224632 Sebastian's comment
17:03:17 <kaz> [adjourned]
17:03:22 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
17:03:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/02/24-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
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