IRC log of pronunciation on 2021-02-24
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- Meeting: Spoken Pronunciation Task Force Teleconference
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- Date: 24 February 2021
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- Agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
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- Agenda+ Technical Approach document https://w3c.github.io/pronunciation/technical-approach/
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- Agenda+ Additional examples https://w3c.github.io/pronunciation/samples/index.html
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- Agenda+ Other Business
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- agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from Irfan]
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- chair: Paul Grenier
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- scribe: Irfan Ali
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- paul_grenier: is there anything pending things?
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- mhakkinen: collecting additional example
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- mhakkinen: I will add these additional examples in existing pages
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- janina: we need w3 format in these sample documents
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- Roy: will add the format to these documents
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- mhakkinen: textHelp samples could be referred when we talk about implementation. Pearson is also into implementation. need one more screen reader vendor
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- SteveNoble_: Pearson is using Text to speech extension
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- Pearson is using SSML examples since very long time for wide range of use cases. some of the practice test are available but not sure if you can see any underline code.
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- JF: NVDA has plugin architecture. wondering if that might be a root we want to pursue.
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- mhakkinen: we did discuss that in the past and certainly one way to go. we discussed it with Shadi which didn't end up with funding.
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- janina: it was not like a notice of post funding that we would fit into. we have long way to get any grant to go for this project.
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- JF: do we have any idea about the work effort?
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- JF: we can explore more funding resources. There are organization that we can reach out to get some funding.
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- mhakkinen: we know the pathway but big thing is to get technical document published and find next step
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- mhakkinen: one of the topic SSML came in our QTI meeting.
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- mhakkinen: QTI is the IMS standard for authoring assessment and test content and they allow the inclusion of SSML.QTI work is the implementation path. Its premature but they have done it. It is kind of socializing of our work.
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- agendum 2 -- Technical Approach document https://w3c.github.io/pronunciation/technical-approach/ -- taken up [from Irfan]
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- paul_grenier: tech approach document is nearing its first draft. couple of things to do including introduction, adding additional examples. Will we be adding the reference of the demos of the examples
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- adding the reference of use-cases, gap analysis and other documents in tech ref document
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- any other info that we should include that we should have
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- paul_grenier: Roy will take care of the branch from main to master
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- mhakkinen: the examples that are in the document such as raven, can we take care of the scrolling issue?
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- paul_grenier: take care of that
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- NOTE: Our meeting with developers was last July 29 recorded here:
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- https://www.w3.org/2020/07/29-pronunciation-minutes.html
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- paul_grenier: if you are not comfortable providing PR or adding it to the document, pls send an email to group since everyone is not watching the github. Look for a final review before publishing it.
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- +1 to Janina
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- janina: make sure that everyone is reading the same content before CFC. CFC is snapshot which will be final document.
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- paul_grenier: my first pass included the sample code. there is still room for improvement. if anyone wants to take additional lok, please do so now.
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- agendum 3 -- Additional examples https://w3c.github.io/pronunciation/samples/index.html -- taken up [from Irfan]
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- paul_grenier: we talked about it. Mark is talking about including any additional example. Mark wont including any current implementation to this page
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- mhakkinen: on our wiki page, we have a section to be headed for implementation. I will add those references including TextHelp and Pearson
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- paul_grenier: is it good idea to invite people to open the issues directly on wiki page?
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- mhakkinen: yes
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- agendum 4 -- Other Business -- taken up [from Irfan]
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- irfan: will send the format to update the CFC documents. Janina will review and then Shawn can take it forward.
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- paul_grenier: any other announcement?
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- janina: I'll note that we're closing on this we have a call with Judy this afternoon where one of the stock coordination items is upcoming publications, so I think we're close enough to be discussed there.
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