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16:47:28 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
16:47:28 <trackbot> Date: 24 February 2021
16:47:34 <becky> chair: becky
16:47:48 <becky> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
16:47:49 <becky> agenda+ Rechartering CfC:
16:47:49 <becky> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2021/charter.html
16:47:49 <becky> agenda+ Task Force Updates
16:47:50 <becky> agenda+ FAST Progress
16:47:50 <becky> agenda+ Final review of Web Auth issue #1557
16:47:50 <becky> https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/issues/1557
16:47:50 <becky> agenda+ New Charters Review
16:47:50 <becky> https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
16:47:50 <becky> agenda+ Horizontal Review Issues Tracker
16:47:51 <becky> https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
16:47:51 <becky> agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
16:47:52 <becky> agenda+ CSS Update (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
16:47:52 <becky> agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs)
16:47:52 <becky> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
16:47:52 <becky> agenda+ Other Business
16:48:00 <becky> zakim, clear agenda
16:48:00 <Zakim> agenda cleared
16:48:09 <becky> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
16:48:09 <becky> agenda+ Rechartering CfC:
16:48:09 <becky> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2021/charter.html
16:48:09 <becky> agenda+ Task Force Updates
16:48:10 <becky> agenda+ FAST Progress
16:48:10 <becky> agenda+ Final review of Web Auth issue #1557
16:48:10 <becky> https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/issues/1557
16:48:10 <becky> agenda+ New Charters Review
16:48:10 <becky> https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
16:48:11 <becky> agenda+ Horizontal Review Issues Tracker
16:48:11 <becky> https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
16:48:11 <becky> agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
16:48:12 <becky> agenda+ CSS Update (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
16:48:12 <becky> agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs)
16:48:12 <becky> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
16:48:12 <becky> agenda+ Other Business
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16:56:20 <janina> present+
16:57:16 <Christos_Petrou> present+
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16:59:49 <paul_grenier> present+
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17:00:40 <Fazio_> Present+
17:01:13 <becky> regrets: Amy Carney, Matthew Atkinson
17:01:18 <becky> present+
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17:02:11 <Gottfried> present+
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17:02:24 <Ela> present+
17:02:26 <JF> Present+
17:02:33 <JF> Scribe: JF
17:02:43 <JF> agenda?
17:02:47 <JPaton> present+
17:02:52 <JF> Zakim, first item
17:02:52 <Zakim> I don't understand 'first item', JF
17:03:00 <JF> Zakim, take up item 1
17:03:00 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from becky]
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17:03:54 <JF> BG: discussion on turning on captions - need to have a chair made host
17:04:04 <JF> BG: any other reviews or announcements?
17:04:58 <JF> GZ: have discussed personalization and media queries Lvl 5. Has a student who has done a great PoC - includes some features we've looked for. Student has a polyfil if interested
17:05:14 <JF> ...Student could come and do a presentation either for here, or for another group
17:05:34 <JF> BG: thinks personalization would be interested. Open question - anyone else?
17:05:42 <JF> Q+
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17:05:48 <paul_grenier> +1 interested
17:05:59 <IanPouncey> present+
17:06:35 <JF> JF: thinks that APA should host this and invite other interested parties
17:06:55 <JF> MC: we can invite people to any meeting on a one-off basis
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17:07:19 <fredrik_fischer> present+
17:07:24 <JF> BG: not sure if we have anything critical - Propose to work with Gottfried to arrange a call
17:07:31 <JF> GZ: Can work with student to do that
17:07:44 <JF> BG: can we shoot for next week? will that be enough time?
17:08:04 <JF> GZ: can investigate and respond tomorrow
17:08:13 <JF> JS: do we know who we want to invite
17:08:16 <JF> Q+
17:08:26 <JF> BG: share with AG WG?
17:10:21 <JF> JS: suggest we spend some time on a call - invite as many as we can think of, and then maybe even create a brief demo video
17:10:42 <JF> GZ: student already made a video for thesis - in German with english Captions/sub-titles
17:10:48 <JF> ack me
17:11:00 <JF> BG: plan for 2 weeks for now? (March 10)
17:11:08 <JF> GZ: will need to check with student
17:11:42 <JF> BG: Any other announcements?
17:11:43 <fredrik_fischer> Sorry, for some reason my mic is out of joint. How much time should be allocated for Mar 10?
17:11:46 <Gottfried> Video with demo of my student's work: https://youtu.be/cmnjqyWQvvw
17:11:47 <JF> zakim, next item
17:11:47 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Rechartering CfC: -- taken up [from becky]
17:12:05 <fredrik_fischer> Thanks!
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17:12:43 <Fazio> Present+
17:12:47 <JF> BG: we have a CfC - most agreed but a few editorial changes needed to be made
17:13:01 <JF> ...so some minor updates to charter
17:13:12 <becky> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2021/charter.html
17:13:39 <JF> ...believe that because these were simply editorial changes no need for another CfC. Next step is to send to W3M review
17:14:04 <JF> BG: note that some start and end dates remain TBC
17:14:31 <JF> zakim, next item
17:14:31 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Task Force Updates -- taken up [from becky]
17:14:48 <JF> BG: anyone who can provide updates?
17:14:55 <Fazio> Nothing in COGA
17:15:12 <JF> PG: Pronunciation are moving ahead to complete our FPWD - target end of this week early next week
17:15:25 <Fazio> still working through issues on our Making Content Usable doc
17:15:43 <JF> BG: Personalization  - moving through issues to prepare for CfC for CR - slogging thrrough issues
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17:17:41 <JF> JO: RQTF had a good call - RAUR almost ready. couple of i's to dot and t's to cross with XAUR.
17:18:05 <JF> ...interesting conversations around 'conversational applications' (sic?)
17:18:25 <JF> JS: we also discussed a color workshop
17:18:43 <JF> ...hoping to put together a presentation to offer to workshop, but unable to do that.
17:19:29 <JF> Seeking an APA member to participate - looking to set up virtual workshop sessions (+interactive), and believe there are at least 2 items of interest
17:19:49 <JF> ...daltonization and flash mitigation - can those be addressed in the user-agent space?
17:20:12 <becky> https://www.w3.org/Graphics/Color/Workshop/
17:20:42 <JF> JS: workshop in April/May - schedule not yet announced
17:21:15 <JF> DF: some small editorial updates on Content Usable
17:21:28 <JF> zakim, next item
17:21:28 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- FAST Progress -- taken up [from becky]
17:22:05 <fredrik_fischer> @JF: like your responses to it at least. And your wit. ;)
17:22:12 <JF> JO: Michael and I have been meeting regularly - making good progress. Have some questions that we'll want to surface (shortly)
17:22:33 <JF> we'll be seeking input - want buy-in and feedback
17:22:56 <JF> MC: Looking to restart Functional Requirements group
17:23:30 <JF> ...there is a connection here with WCAG 3 and other activities - we have ideas on how that would work, but want the feedback
17:23:50 <JF> ...working on a database to illustrate a demo - almost there
17:24:13 <JF> zakim, next item
17:24:13 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Final review of Web Auth issue #1557 -- taken up [from becky]
17:24:39 <becky> https://w3c.github.io/webauthn/#sctn-accessiblility-considerations
17:24:52 <becky> https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/issues/1557
17:24:53 <JF> BG: we had a CfC that we responded to. Group has closed our issue and provided an accessibility section
17:25:00 <JF> Thanks to paul for responding to questions
17:25:24 <JF> BG: [reads aloud their edit]
17:27:09 <JF> BG: we need to close the loop here - note we've reviewed response and then officially close it
17:27:25 <JF> PG: happy with changes - makes it clear for implementors
17:27:26 <fredrik_fischer> I'm very happy with the changes, too. Looking forward to implementations.
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17:28:46 <fredrik_fischer> Thanks for the good work Paul!
17:28:50 <JF> BG: thanks to Paul for that
17:28:54 <JF> zakim, next item
17:28:54 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- New Charters Review -- taken up [from becky]
17:29:26 <JF> MC: web auth issue has been dealt with
17:29:37 <MichaelC> -> https://w3c.github.io/webappsec/admin/webappsec-charter-2021.html PROPOSED Web Application Security Working Group Charter
17:29:37 <JF> ...a new charter: web applications security WG
17:29:44 <JF> a re-charter
17:30:35 <JF> [MC reviews key elements of the new charter]
17:31:00 <JF> MC: includes a section on a11y impacts, but no liason to APA
17:31:18 <JF> but given they added an a11y section, suggest we let them be
17:32:09 <JF> MC: they have a hook if we need to pursue
17:32:24 <JF> BG: Fine with charter and not having a direct link to APA
17:32:55 <JF> JS: also agree - fine as is. This group/community have been responsive to our concerns and feedback
17:33:11 <JF> zakim, next item
17:33:11 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- Horizontal Review Issues Tracker -- taken up [from becky]
17:34:00 <MichaelC> -> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/6005 [css-ruby-1] What properties apply to annotation containers?
17:34:02 <JF> MC: there is a CSS Ruby item we discussed last week
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17:35:59 <JF> JF: This *may* have an impact on Pronunciation
17:37:25 <JF> JF & PG subscribed to that issue
17:37:26 <JF> zakim, next item
17:37:26 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from becky]
17:38:12 <JF> MC: new on TR - ePub accessibility 1.1 and ePub TEchniques 1.1
17:38:25 <JF> BG: suspect twe don't need to review - any  thoughts?
17:38:35 <JF> +1 to being comfortable with that work
17:38:36 <MichaelC> -> https://www.w3.org/TR/epub-a11y-11/ EPub Accessibility 1.1
17:38:48 <MichaelC> -> https://www.w3.org/TR/epub-a11y-tech-11/ EPUB Accessibility Techniques 1.1
17:38:56 <JF> zakim, next item
17:38:56 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- CSS Update (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues -- taken up [from becky]
17:39:14 <JF> BG: Amy sent regrets, but provided this feedback
17:39:42 <becky> Amy provided the following comment: Update: Issue created in CSSWG repo to address people-first language in Accessibility Concerns section of CSS Color Module Level 4. https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/6035
17:40:33 <JF> JF: leave this in Amy's hands
17:40:37 <JF> zakim, next item
17:40:37 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) -- taken up [from becky]
17:41:13 <JF> ACTION 2282
17:41:32 <JF> ACTION: 2282
17:41:50 <becky> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2021Feb/0048.html
17:42:29 <JF> JS: believe we're promoting longer descriptions using summary/details
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17:45:07 <JF> [process discussion]
17:46:13 <JF> BG: will take care of that - will add link to ARIA Accessible Description
17:47:03 <JF> BG: will issue a CfC on that comment
17:47:22 <JF> ...reminder that everyone stay on top of their assigned actions
17:48:35 <JF> [discussion on ACTIONS maintenance]
17:49:21 <JF> +1 to closing ACTIONS OBE
17:49:22 <JF> zakim, next item
17:49:22 <Zakim> agendum 11 -- Other Business -- taken up [from becky]
17:49:41 <JF> [crickets]
17:49:52 <JF> BG: give back 10 minutes
17:50:08 <fredrik_fischer> Thanks for a great meeting! And bon appetit, Becky!
17:50:08 <JF> zakim, make logs public
17:50:08 <Zakim> I don't understand 'make logs public', JF
17:50:23 <JF> zakim, make minutes public
17:50:23 <Zakim> I don't understand 'make minutes public', JF
17:50:37 <JF> zakim, end meeting
17:50:37 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been janina, paul_grenier, JPaton, Fazio, becky, Irfan, Matthew_Atkinson, JonnyJames, JF, MichaelC, NeilS, christos, Fazio_, Léonie, (tink),
17:50:40 <Zakim> ... amy_c, Ela, Fredrik_Fischer, IanPouncey, Christos_Petrou, Gottfried
17:50:40 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
17:50:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/02/24-apa-minutes.html Zakim
17:50:42 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, JF; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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17:51:07 <fredrik_fischer> JF some time, would you contact me? I'd like to know the scribing arts...
17:51:30 <fredrik_fischer> fredrik.fischer@hilfsgemeinschaft.at would be where to go.
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18:58:56 <janina> janina has changed the topic to: APA Teleconference; Wednesday 3 March at 1700Z
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