IRC log of apa on 2021-02-24

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16:47:28 [trackbot]: Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
16:47:28 [trackbot]: Date: 24 February 2021
16:47:34 [becky]: chair: becky
16:47:48 [becky]: agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
16:47:49 [becky]: agenda+ Rechartering CfC:
16:47:49 [becky]: https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2021/charter.html
16:47:49 [becky]: agenda+ Task Force Updates
16:47:50 [becky]: agenda+ FAST Progress
16:47:50 [becky]: agenda+ Final review of Web Auth issue #1557
16:47:50 [becky]: https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/issues/1557
16:47:50 [becky]: agenda+ New Charters Review
16:47:50 [becky]: https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
16:47:50 [becky]: agenda+ Horizontal Review Issues Tracker
16:47:51 [becky]: https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
16:47:51 [becky]: agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
16:47:52 [becky]: agenda+ CSS Update (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
16:47:52 [becky]: agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs)
16:47:52 [becky]: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
16:47:52 [becky]: agenda+ Other Business
16:48:00 [becky]: zakim, clear agenda
16:48:00 [Zakim]: agenda cleared
16:48:09 [becky]: agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
16:48:09 [becky]: agenda+ Rechartering CfC:
16:48:09 [becky]: https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2021/charter.html
16:48:09 [becky]: agenda+ Task Force Updates
16:48:10 [becky]: agenda+ FAST Progress
16:48:10 [becky]: agenda+ Final review of Web Auth issue #1557
16:48:10 [becky]: https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/issues/1557
16:48:10 [becky]: agenda+ New Charters Review
16:48:10 [becky]: https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
16:48:11 [becky]: agenda+ Horizontal Review Issues Tracker
16:48:11 [becky]: https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
16:48:11 [becky]: agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
16:48:12 [becky]: agenda+ CSS Update (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
16:48:12 [becky]: agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs)
16:48:12 [becky]: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
16:48:12 [becky]: agenda+ Other Business
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16:56:20 [janina]: present+
16:57:16 [Christos_Petrou]: present+
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16:59:49 [paul_grenier]: present+
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17:00:40 [Fazio_]: Present+
17:01:13 [becky]: regrets: Amy Carney, Matthew Atkinson
17:01:18 [becky]: present+
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17:02:11 [Gottfried]: present+
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17:02:24 [Ela]: present+
17:02:26 [JF]: Present+
17:02:33 [JF]: Scribe: JF
17:02:43 [JF]: agenda?
17:02:47 [JPaton]: present+
17:02:52 [JF]: Zakim, first item
17:02:52 [Zakim]: I don't understand 'first item', JF
17:03:00 [JF]: Zakim, take up item 1
17:03:00 [Zakim]: agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from becky]
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17:03:54 [JF]: BG: discussion on turning on captions - need to have a chair made host
17:04:04 [JF]: BG: any other reviews or announcements?
17:04:58 [JF]: GZ: have discussed personalization and media queries Lvl 5. Has a student who has done a great PoC - includes some features we've looked for. Student has a polyfil if interested
17:05:14 [JF]: ...Student could come and do a presentation either for here, or for another group
17:05:34 [JF]: BG: thinks personalization would be interested. Open question - anyone else?
17:05:42 [JF]: Q+
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17:05:48 [paul_grenier]: +1 interested
17:05:59 [IanPouncey]: present+
17:06:35 [JF]: JF: thinks that APA should host this and invite other interested parties
17:06:55 [JF]: MC: we can invite people to any meeting on a one-off basis
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17:07:19 [fredrik_fischer]: present+
17:07:24 [JF]: BG: not sure if we have anything critical - Propose to work with Gottfried to arrange a call
17:07:31 [JF]: GZ: Can work with student to do that
17:07:44 [JF]: BG: can we shoot for next week? will that be enough time?
17:08:04 [JF]: GZ: can investigate and respond tomorrow
17:08:13 [JF]: JS: do we know who we want to invite
17:08:16 [JF]: Q+
17:08:26 [JF]: BG: share with AG WG?
17:10:21 [JF]: JS: suggest we spend some time on a call - invite as many as we can think of, and then maybe even create a brief demo video
17:10:42 [JF]: GZ: student already made a video for thesis - in German with english Captions/sub-titles
17:10:48 [JF]: ack me
17:11:00 [JF]: BG: plan for 2 weeks for now? (March 10)
17:11:08 [JF]: GZ: will need to check with student
17:11:42 [JF]: BG: Any other announcements?
17:11:43 [fredrik_fischer]: Sorry, for some reason my mic is out of joint. How much time should be allocated for Mar 10?
17:11:46 [Gottfried]: Video with demo of my student's work: https://youtu.be/cmnjqyWQvvw
17:11:47 [JF]: zakim, next item
17:11:47 [Zakim]: agendum 2 -- Rechartering CfC: -- taken up [from becky]
17:12:05 [fredrik_fischer]: Thanks!
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17:12:43 [Fazio]: Present+
17:12:47 [JF]: BG: we have a CfC - most agreed but a few editorial changes needed to be made
17:13:01 [JF]: ...so some minor updates to charter
17:13:12 [becky]: https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2021/charter.html
17:13:39 [JF]: ...believe that because these were simply editorial changes no need for another CfC. Next step is to send to W3M review
17:14:04 [JF]: BG: note that some start and end dates remain TBC
17:14:31 [JF]: zakim, next item
17:14:31 [Zakim]: agendum 3 -- Task Force Updates -- taken up [from becky]
17:14:48 [JF]: BG: anyone who can provide updates?
17:14:55 [Fazio]: Nothing in COGA
17:15:12 [JF]: PG: Pronunciation are moving ahead to complete our FPWD - target end of this week early next week
17:15:25 [Fazio]: still working through issues on our Making Content Usable doc
17:15:43 [JF]: BG: Personalization - moving through issues to prepare for CfC for CR - slogging thrrough issues
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17:17:41 [JF]: JO: RQTF had a good call - RAUR almost ready. couple of i's to dot and t's to cross with XAUR.
17:18:05 [JF]: ...interesting conversations around 'conversational applications' (sic?)
17:18:25 [JF]: JS: we also discussed a color workshop
17:18:43 [JF]: ...hoping to put together a presentation to offer to workshop, but unable to do that.
17:19:29 [JF]: Seeking an APA member to participate - looking to set up virtual workshop sessions (+interactive), and believe there are at least 2 items of interest
17:19:49 [JF]: ...daltonization and flash mitigation - can those be addressed in the user-agent space?
17:20:12 [becky]: https://www.w3.org/Graphics/Color/Workshop/
17:20:42 [JF]: JS: workshop in April/May - schedule not yet announced
17:21:15 [JF]: DF: some small editorial updates on Content Usable
17:21:28 [JF]: zakim, next item
17:21:28 [Zakim]: agendum 4 -- FAST Progress -- taken up [from becky]
17:22:05 [fredrik_fischer]: @JF: like your responses to it at least. And your wit. ;)
17:22:12 [JF]: JO: Michael and I have been meeting regularly - making good progress. Have some questions that we'll want to surface (shortly)
17:22:33 [JF]: we'll be seeking input - want buy-in and feedback
17:22:56 [JF]: MC: Looking to restart Functional Requirements group
17:23:30 [JF]: ...there is a connection here with WCAG 3 and other activities - we have ideas on how that would work, but want the feedback
17:23:50 [JF]: ...working on a database to illustrate a demo - almost there
17:24:13 [JF]: zakim, next item
17:24:13 [Zakim]: agendum 5 -- Final review of Web Auth issue #1557 -- taken up [from becky]
17:24:39 [becky]: https://w3c.github.io/webauthn/#sctn-accessiblility-considerations
17:24:52 [becky]: https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/issues/1557
17:24:53 [JF]: BG: we had a CfC that we responded to. Group has closed our issue and provided an accessibility section
17:25:00 [JF]: Thanks to paul for responding to questions
17:25:24 [JF]: BG: [reads aloud their edit]
17:27:09 [JF]: BG: we need to close the loop here - note we've reviewed response and then officially close it
17:27:25 [JF]: PG: happy with changes - makes it clear for implementors
17:27:26 [fredrik_fischer]: I'm very happy with the changes, too. Looking forward to implementations.
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17:28:46 [fredrik_fischer]: Thanks for the good work Paul!
17:28:50 [JF]: BG: thanks to Paul for that
17:28:54 [JF]: zakim, next item
17:28:54 [Zakim]: agendum 6 -- New Charters Review -- taken up [from becky]
17:29:26 [JF]: MC: web auth issue has been dealt with
17:29:37 [MichaelC]: -> https://w3c.github.io/webappsec/admin/webappsec-charter-2021.html PROPOSED Web Application Security Working Group Charter
17:29:37 [JF]: ...a new charter: web applications security WG
17:29:44 [JF]: a re-charter
17:30:35 [JF]: [MC reviews key elements of the new charter]
17:31:00 [JF]: MC: includes a section on a11y impacts, but no liason to APA
17:31:18 [JF]: but given they added an a11y section, suggest we let them be
17:32:09 [JF]: MC: they have a hook if we need to pursue
17:32:24 [JF]: BG: Fine with charter and not having a direct link to APA
17:32:55 [JF]: JS: also agree - fine as is. This group/community have been responsive to our concerns and feedback
17:33:11 [JF]: zakim, next item
17:33:11 [Zakim]: agendum 7 -- Horizontal Review Issues Tracker -- taken up [from becky]
17:34:00 [MichaelC]: -> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/6005 [css-ruby-1] What properties apply to annotation containers?
17:34:02 [JF]: MC: there is a CSS Ruby item we discussed last week
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17:35:59 [JF]: JF: This *may* have an impact on Pronunciation
17:37:25 [JF]: JF & PG subscribed to that issue
17:37:26 [JF]: zakim, next item
17:37:26 [Zakim]: agendum 8 -- new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from becky]
17:38:12 [JF]: MC: new on TR - ePub accessibility 1.1 and ePub TEchniques 1.1
17:38:25 [JF]: BG: suspect twe don't need to review - any thoughts?
17:38:35 [JF]: +1 to being comfortable with that work
17:38:36 [MichaelC]: -> https://www.w3.org/TR/epub-a11y-11/ EPub Accessibility 1.1
17:38:48 [MichaelC]: -> https://www.w3.org/TR/epub-a11y-tech-11/ EPUB Accessibility Techniques 1.1
17:38:56 [JF]: zakim, next item
17:38:56 [Zakim]: agendum 9 -- CSS Update (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues -- taken up [from becky]
17:39:14 [JF]: BG: Amy sent regrets, but provided this feedback
17:39:42 [becky]: Amy provided the following comment: Update: Issue created in CSSWG repo to address people-first language in Accessibility Concerns section of CSS Color Module Level 4. https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/6035
17:40:33 [JF]: JF: leave this in Amy's hands
17:40:37 [JF]: zakim, next item
17:40:37 [Zakim]: agendum 10 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) -- taken up [from becky]
17:41:13 [JF]: ACTION 2282
17:41:32 [JF]: ACTION: 2282
17:41:50 [becky]: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2021Feb/0048.html
17:42:29 [JF]: JS: believe we're promoting longer descriptions using summary/details
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17:45:07 [JF]: [process discussion]
17:46:13 [JF]: BG: will take care of that - will add link to ARIA Accessible Description
17:47:03 [JF]: BG: will issue a CfC on that comment
17:47:22 [JF]: ...reminder that everyone stay on top of their assigned actions
17:48:35 [JF]: [discussion on ACTIONS maintenance]
17:49:21 [JF]: +1 to closing ACTIONS OBE
17:49:22 [JF]: zakim, next item
17:49:22 [Zakim]: agendum 11 -- Other Business -- taken up [from becky]
17:49:41 [JF]: [crickets]
17:49:52 [JF]: BG: give back 10 minutes
17:50:08 [fredrik_fischer]: Thanks for a great meeting! And bon appetit, Becky!
17:50:08 [JF]: zakim, make logs public
17:50:08 [Zakim]: I don't understand 'make logs public', JF
17:50:23 [JF]: zakim, make minutes public
17:50:23 [Zakim]: I don't understand 'make minutes public', JF
17:50:37 [JF]: zakim, end meeting
17:50:37 [Zakim]: As of this point the attendees have been janina, paul_grenier, JPaton, Fazio, becky, Irfan, Matthew_Atkinson, JonnyJames, JF, MichaelC, NeilS, christos, Fazio_, Léonie, (tink),
17:50:40 [Zakim]: ... amy_c, Ela, Fredrik_Fischer, IanPouncey, Christos_Petrou, Gottfried
17:50:40 [Zakim]: RRSAgent, please draft minutes
17:50:40 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/02/24-apa-minutes.html Zakim
17:50:42 [Zakim]: I am happy to have been of service, JF; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye
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17:51:07 [fredrik_fischer]: JF some time, would you contact me? I'd like to know the scribing arts...
17:51:30 [fredrik_fischer]: fredrik.fischer@hilfsgemeinschaft.at would be where to go.
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18:58:56 [janina]: janina has changed the topic to: APA Teleconference; Wednesday 3 March at 1700Z
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