13:04:10 RRSAgent has joined #wot-uc 13:04:10 logging to https://www.w3.org/2021/02/23-wot-uc-irc 13:04:24 citrullin has joined #wot-uc 13:04:26 chair: Lagally 13:04:43 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Lagally, Philipp_Blum 13:05:09 present+ Philip_Tran, Michael_McCool 13:05:31 McCool has joined #wot-uc 13:06:59 present+ Rob_Smith 13:07:05 sebastian has joined #wot-uc 13:07:29 Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_UseCase_WebConf#Agenda_23.2. 13:07:55 present+ Christine_Perey 13:08:15 present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima 13:08:35 cperey has joined #wot-uc 13:08:49 scribenick: kaz 13:09:04 topic: Prev minutes 13:09:14 -> https://www.w3.org/2021/02/09-wot-uc-minutes.html Feb-9 13:11:03 ml: (goes through the minutes 13:11:08 s/minutes/minutes)/ 13:11:39 ml: any objections? 13:11:48 (none) 13:12:01 approved 13:12:13 topic: Liaisons 13:12:18 ml: OPC-UA, etc. 13:12:23 q+ 13:12:34 ... how to proceed? 13:12:52 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/charters/wot-ocpua-2021-charter-draft.md OPC UA cooperation proposal 13:13:16 ml: wondering about this "purpose" 13:13:45 [[ 13:13:47 The purpose is the development of an OPC UA Binding for the W3C Web of Things through an OPC UA Companion specification and mirrored as a W3C Recommendation/Note(?) document. 13:13:50 ]] 13:14:04 mm: this is a propose Charter for the OPC UA side, I thought 13:14:58 kaz: also think we need to update the description 13:15:09 ... we had discussion during the TD call as well 13:15:38 ... we should concentrate on simple liaison on datamodel definition for binding and ontology reference for TD, etc. 13:15:58 ml: who would improve this? 13:16:04 kaz: we should ask Sebastian 13:16:22 mm: yeah, we should leave this to Sebastian 13:17:03 ... if we have something normative on the W3C side, we need to think about that 13:17:22 s/that/how to handle that/ 13:17:42 ... note that we can't change our own WoT Charter for the current period 13:18:09 (some more discussion) 13:18:47 ml: yeah, I agree we need to identify clear plan 13:19:00 ... we should discuss this with Sebastian 13:19:18 ... next Linked Building Data CG 13:19:42 kaz: this is also handled mainly by Sebastian :) 13:19:57 mm: yeah, need to follow it up with him 13:20:18 ... interested in geological information inside buildings 13:20:47 ml: do we expect some more additional input? 13:20:56 mm: use case description, you mean? 13:21:16 ... we're talking about geolocation information model, etc., already 13:21:23 ... e.g., for smart buildings 13:21:57 present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch 13:22:12 (Sebastian joins) 13:22:29 ml: (asks Sebastian about the OPC UA topic) 13:22:59 ... maybe you can give some comments on your plan? 13:23:30 ... how/who would create the target document mentioned here? 13:24:01 mm: someone needs to take the lead 13:24:25 sk: originally expecting a joint group but we had some discussion during the TD call 13:24:40 ... about the expected collaboration 13:25:04 ... the idea should be more OPC UA's taking lead for their work 13:25:13 ... and we can follow their work 13:25:47 ... we expect to hold a dedicated call on further discussion related to liaison 13:26:06 q? 13:26:48 ml: think we should review their specs, etc. 13:27:36 sk: my question is who would be actively working on the collaboration 13:28:21 kaz: I'll create a doodle poll for further discussion quickly 13:28:56 ml: ok. let's move on then 13:29:08 ... next ITU-T SG 20 13:29:16 ... unfortunately, not available today 13:29:33 ... plan to have a follow-up discussion during the vF2F in March 13:29:53 ... the topic is gaps and next steps based our summary 13:30:14 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/blob/master/CONTRIBUTIONS/ITU-T-Use-case-summary.md ITU-T use case summary 13:30:25 mm: agree 13:30:46 ml: btw, regarding the Linked Building Data CG 13:30:59 ... any plan to create use case descriptions? 13:31:25 ... would like to publish the first draft of the WoT Use Cases within a few weeks 13:32:11 sk: unfortunately, not able to join the use cases call for a while 13:32:24 ... so not really sure about the plan 13:32:41 ml: we had a joint call with them 13:32:51 sk: will ping the CG guys 13:32:55 ml: great 13:33:16 q? 13:33:32 ack k 13:34:10 kaz: have been talking with the ECHONET guys 13:34:18 ... will talk with them again on March 5 13:34:23 ... will get back to you all 13:34:34 ... possibly could have input for future use cases 13:35:26 topic: MR 97 - add edge-computing.md into index.html 13:35:42 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/97 MR 97 13:36:03 ml: would merge this 13:36:13 (merged) 13:37:09 RobSmith has joined #wot-uc 13:37:28 topic: MR 86 - Update Smartcity Dashboard UC 13:37:41 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/86 MR 86 13:38:07 pt: added comments 13:38:24 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/86#pullrequestreview-595141626 Philip Tran's comments 13:38:49 ml: can make these changes 13:39:30 mm: updates with missing references as well 13:39:32 -> https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/wot-usecases/86/20a5eb5...mmccool:89774c2.html diff 13:39:50 pt: what kind of references? 13:39:55 mm: existing standards, etc. 13:40:13 ... e.g., OGC's work 13:40:43 ml: why don't we merge this and McCool can make editorial changes 13:40:45 mm: ok 13:40:48 (merged) 13:41:14 topic: MR 94 - Focus AR/VR Guide use case on AR 13:41:27 ml: work on AR/VR originally proposed by Rob and Kaz 13:42:11 ... updated by McCool 13:42:21 mm: would suggest we merge this 13:42:45 cp: the use case is actually AR guide. right? 13:43:43 mm: VR might not require geolocation information though AR does 13:43:53 ... that's why focus on AR here 13:43:55 cp: ok 13:44:05 ml: (goes through Rob's comments) 13:44:18 q+ 13:44:24 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/94#pullrequestreview-586653088 Rob's comments 13:44:45 rs: there is a guidance on responsible use case of spatial data by the SDW IG 13:45:27 -> https://w3c.github.io/sdw/responsible-use/ The Responsible Use of Spatial Data 13:45:41 rs: related security/privacy issues as well 13:45:53 mm: will look at it 13:46:04 rs: tx 13:46:20 ml: would make sense to extend the security/privacy section? 13:46:24 mm: that's my plan :) 13:46:27 rs: great 13:47:01 ml: can we merge this MR itself and then work on the comments? 13:47:10 mm: that's fine 13:47:20 ka: I'm OK too 13:47:33 (merged) 13:48:07 topic: MR 90 - Joint activity for a standardized OPC UA Binding 13:48:17 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/90 MR 90 13:48:34 sk: this is the main README but not sure if it's still relevant 13:48:58 ... should have the discussion during the separate call 13:49:07 ml: OK to keep it open then? 13:49:10 sk: ok 13:49:19 https://github.com/w3c-lbd-cg/wot-usecases/blob/feature_UpdateWithBim/USE-CASES/W3C-LBD-CG.md 13:49:43 mlagally has joined #wot-uc 13:49:45 i/https/topic: Linked Building Data CG (revisited)/ 13:49:47 https://github.com/w3c-lbd-cg/wot-usecases/blob/feature_UpdateWithBim/USE-CASES/W3C-LBD-CG.md 13:50:03 sk: got response from the Linked Building guys 13:50:15 ... they're working on a use case description 13:50:20 ml: great 13:50:38 topic: WG Note planning 13:50:51 ml: basic timeline 13:50:53 [[ 13:50:53 - consolidated draft in next call 13:50:54 - two week's review 13:50:54 - publication approval in vF2F 13:50:54 ]] 13:51:45 q+ 13:51:51 ack s 13:52:12 -> https://w3c.github.io/wot-usecases/ Use Cases draft 13:53:07 ml: wondering about if we could have dedicated contributions from the co-Editors 13:53:19 mm: we'll have the PlugFest next week 13:53:32 ... should prioritize the work items 13:53:43 ... how to bring it to the vF2F? 13:53:53 ml: would have email discussion 13:54:11 q? 13:55:45 kaz: given the tight schedule, would suggest we make the TF resolution today instead of the next UC call in 2 weeks 13:57:40 ... and bring the draft to the main call tomorrow on Feb 24 13:58:01 ... we can add some note mentioning there might be some minor changes 13:58:16 +1 13:58:21 ml: asking the whole group for review asap is good 13:59:41 ... but would like to confirm the draft is ready during the next call in 2 weeks 14:00:47 mm: we need to think about when to have use case discussion during the vF2F 14:00:52 ml: ok 14:01:00 let's talk about that during the main call tomorrow 14:01:05 [adjourned] 14:01:12 rrsagent, make lob public 14:01:12 I'm logging. I don't understand 'make lob public', kaz. Try /msg RRSAgent help 14:01:22 a/rrsagent, make lob public// 14:01:26 rrsagent, make log public 14:01:33 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:01:33 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/02/23-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz 14:01:35 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:01:35 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/02/23-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz 14:01:39 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:01:39 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/02/23-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz