16:03:25 RRSAgent has joined #tt 16:03:25 logging to https://www.w3.org/2021/02/18-tt-irc 16:03:28 RRSAgent, make logs Public 16:03:29 Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference 16:03:37 Agenda: https://github.com/w3c/ttwg/issues/174 16:03:46 Previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2021/02/04-tt-minutes.html 16:03:59 Present: Glenn, Nigel 16:04:00 Chair: Nigel 16:04:05 Regrets: Gary 16:04:49 nigel has changed the topic to: TTWG Teleconference 2021-02-18. Agenda: https://github.com/w3c/ttwg/issues/174 16:06:22 (connecting... just finished the last call) 16:07:11 Present+ Atsushi, Cyril 16:07:28 cyril has joined #tt 16:07:32 Topic: This meeting 16:07:43 scribe: nigel 16:08:06 Nigel: Today we have TTML2 CR republication, Workplan if anyone has anything to cover and master branch renaming. 16:08:10 .. Any other business? 16:08:21 Topic: TTML2 Publication of updated CR 16:09:00 Nigel: I've had no objections to proceeding so the Decision Review Period initiated in our last call 2 weeks ago is now confirmed as a WG Decision. 16:09:11 .. That means we can go ahead and publish an updated CR of TTML2. 16:09:35 .. Need to check state of the Editor's Draft, and publication process and timeline. 16:10:12 Nigel: Glenn, you merged everything, right? 16:10:19 Glenn: Yes I merged everything that was outstanding. 16:10:23 Nigel: Thanks for doing that. 16:10:41 .. I think the only other change we need to make is to the earliest exit date. 16:10:49 Glenn: I need the document publication date in it as well. 16:11:08 .. Is it still covered by the 1 March 2019 Process document? 16:11:41 Nigel: No, the latest published one is 15 September 2020 16:11:50 -> https://www.w3.org/2020/Process-20200915/ Latest published Process doc 16:11:57 Atsushi: And TTWG has moved to the newest one. 16:12:10 Glenn: Policy on having to update the governing process document? 16:12:35 Nigel: I think we have to update because we just rechartered based on Process 2020. 16:12:41 Glenn: Okay, so I need to update that as well. 16:12:54 Atsushi: Actually the pub rules have not been changed. 16:13:08 .. We had introduced CRD and CRS but the process for updating CR has not changed so much. 16:13:14 .. On the publishing side. 16:13:28 Glenn: So you're saying if we update to the new Process document we should not expect any ramifications? 16:14:05 Atsushi: For a CRD we could just publish after a WD decision, but I think we want to publish a CRS which should be a draft for PR. 16:15:12 Glenn: Pubrules will tell me what the options are for designating this as a particular document type and give me a set of options for which type to use 16:15:35 .. I haven't done that yet because I didn't have a date. 16:15:47 .. If I can get a date then I will run it through pubrules and see what happens. 16:15:59 .. I may have to label it as CR2 of 2nd Ed of TTML2. 16:17:57 Nigel: Looking at the process now, it looks like CRS is only for substantive changes, and CRD is significant changes that benefit from review. 16:18:39 https://www.w3.org/2020/Process-20200915/#w3c-recommendation-track 16:20:02 .. From that perspective we could defer all these changes until PR, or publish a CRD. 16:20:32 .. I think the resolution we made was for a CRS though, despite there being no substantive change. 16:20:42 Atsushi: I thought we would go to a CRS. 16:20:45 Nigel: Me too. 16:21:03 Atsushi: I believe we need to go through the requirement for CRS. 16:21:29 Nigel: Agreed, I think we need an Update Request. 16:21:38 -> https://www.w3.org/2020/Process-20200915/#update-requests Update Request 16:21:49 Atsushi: I believe we do not need to go through WR again. 16:21:55 Nigel: Same here.