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13:52:50 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
13:52:50 <trackbot> Date: 17 February 2021
13:52:57 <jasonjgw> chair: jasonjgw
13:52:59 <jasonjgw> agenda+        RAUR  updates, if any.
13:53:00 <jasonjgw> agenda+        Smart agent/natural language dialogue system accessibility.
13:53:00 <jasonjgw> agenda+        XAUR: discussion prior to preparing for publication of wide review draft.
13:53:03 <jasonjgw> agenda+        W3C Workshop on Wide Color Gamut and High Dynamic Range for the Web (continued).
13:53:06 <jasonjgw> agenda+        Continuing work on media synchronization.
13:53:09 <jasonjgw> agenda+        Miscellaneous updates and topics relevant to Task Force work.
13:53:19 <jasonjgw> present+
13:53:31 <janina> present+
13:56:43 <janina> Chair: jasonjgw
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14:02:36 <SteveNoble> present+
14:04:55 <SteveNoble> scribe: SteveNoble
14:05:02 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
14:05:02 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- RAUR  updates, if any. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
14:06:25 <SteveNoble> janina: Item 14 - call participants and status - preserving data after the call
14:06:49 <joconnor> JOC: Is that a preservation of meta data thing?
14:07:06 <SteveNoble> janina: Knowing who was in the call
14:07:48 <SteveNoble> Judy: need to be cautious about capturing meeting chats unless participants know this in advance
14:09:25 <joconnor> JOC: So how is that an a11y thing?
14:09:39 <SteveNoble> janina: knowing the name of the speaker is very useful
14:10:53 <SteveNoble> Judy: also a common request from deaf participants
14:12:38 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
14:12:38 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Smart agent/natural language dialogue system accessibility. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
14:13:35 <joconnor> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Voice_agent_user_requirements
14:15:33 <SteveNoble> Judy: Voice agent seems a bit restrictive
14:17:41 <SteveNoble> joconnor: The wiki sets up various definitions, and then drills down more to voice agents to limit scope
14:19:02 <Judy> q+
14:19:06 <JPaton> present+
14:19:11 <joconnor> present+
14:19:27 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: If it doesn't have text input and output that can be an accessibility issue
14:20:14 <joconnor> JW: we need to look at Natural language processing and dialogue systems
14:20:31 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Some work in natural language has improved voice/text translation
14:21:14 <janina> q+
14:21:48 <SteveNoble> judy: Concerned that the topic has "voice agent" in the header - may seem disability restrictive
14:21:54 <joconnor> q+
14:21:59 <joconnor> ack jud
14:22:15 <JPaton> q+
14:23:04 <SteveNoble> Judy: Smart agent or digital assistant may be more inclusive
14:25:17 <joconnor> ack jan
14:25:32 <Judy> s/may seem/it's/
14:25:47 <Judy> s/may be more/would be more/
14:28:08 <joconnor> ack josh
14:28:24 <SteveNoble> janina: Consider web interface modality as a starting place - different paradigms - some have screen some do not - but here we have primarily a conversational approach
14:29:31 <janina> q+
14:29:36 <Judy> q+
14:29:36 <SteveNoble> joconnor: Primarily these tools focus on voice
14:30:13 <SteveNoble> joconnor: Problem with the "big" umbrella is that is too large
14:30:37 <Judy> ack joc
14:31:01 <joconnor> ack JP
14:32:58 <joconnor> ack janina
14:33:04 <Judy> q+ jason
14:33:21 <SteveNoble> JPaton: Makes sense to look at the whole digital assistant universe at some point, but makes sense to drill into more defined interfaces like voice assistants
14:33:54 <SteveNoble> janina: Maybe "conversational assistant?"
14:35:07 <SteveNoble> janina: If we can limit to certain knowledge domains we would get more meaningful results
14:36:32 <SteveNoble> Judy: use cases to consider such as someone who is deaf, quiet speech, etc.
14:39:29 <joconnor> q+
14:40:02 <Judy> ack ju
14:40:13 <SteveNoble> Judy: the voice agent area may be very intriguing from a research perspective, but framing the discussion at a more cross-disability level at the start would be more helpful
14:42:22 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: The term "conversational agent" may be more inclusive -- allows for text input/output and so forth
14:43:23 <Judy> q+ to comment on helping with the definition
14:43:31 <Judy> ack ja
14:43:35 <Judy> ack joc
14:43:59 <SteveNoble> joconnor: We need a good definition to move forward
14:45:41 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Natural language includes a much larger focus - not dependent upon speech
14:47:01 <janina> q?
14:47:06 <janina> q+
14:48:45 <JPaton> q+
14:48:48 <SteveNoble> janina: This is why we had VoiceXML spec, but it never seemed to be implemented
14:49:49 <janina> ack ju
14:49:49 <Zakim> Judy, you wanted to comment on helping with the definition
14:49:59 <Judy> [JB: NLP is a decades-old subfield of linguistics, and we can take advantage of these kinds of established definitions to help us frame our note]
14:50:06 <janina> ack ja
14:51:47 <SteveNoble> JPaton: Some systems include speech and text - not just speech
14:52:49 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Could write something to start?
14:53:22 <SteveNoble> joconnor: We need help on the definitions from others
14:53:39 <janina> q?
14:54:29 <SteveNoble> Judy: Agree that we need definitions, but doubt it can be done very quickly - make take more time to develop solid underpinnings
14:54:47 <janina> q?
14:55:21 <janina> ack ja
14:55:35 <JPaton> ack JPaton
14:56:31 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Can begin with writing the definition and then we can flesh out
14:58:25 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Action for next meeting to work on the definition assigned to Jason
14:59:03 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
14:59:03 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- XAUR: discussion prior to preparing for publication of wide review draft. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
15:00:54 <jasonjgw> zakim, bye
15:00:54 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been jasonjgw, janina, SteveNoble, JPaton, joconnor
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