IRC log of rqtf on 2021-02-17

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Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 17 February 2021
13:52:57 [jasonjgw]
chair: jasonjgw
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agenda+ RAUR updates, if any.
13:53:00 [jasonjgw]
agenda+ Smart agent/natural language dialogue system accessibility.
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agenda+ XAUR: discussion prior to preparing for publication of wide review draft.
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agenda+ W3C Workshop on Wide Color Gamut and High Dynamic Range for the Web (continued).
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agenda+ Continuing work on media synchronization.
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agenda+ Miscellaneous updates and topics relevant to Task Force work.
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present+
13:53:31 [janina]
present+
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Chair: jasonjgw
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present+
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scribe: SteveNoble
14:05:02 [jasonjgw]
zakim, next item
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agendum 1 -- RAUR updates, if any. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
14:06:25 [SteveNoble]
janina: Item 14 - call participants and status - preserving data after the call
14:06:49 [joconnor]
JOC: Is that a preservation of meta data thing?
14:07:06 [SteveNoble]
janina: Knowing who was in the call
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Judy: need to be cautious about capturing meeting chats unless participants know this in advance
14:09:25 [joconnor]
JOC: So how is that an a11y thing?
14:09:39 [SteveNoble]
janina: knowing the name of the speaker is very useful
14:10:53 [SteveNoble]
Judy: also a common request from deaf participants
14:12:38 [jasonjgw]
zakim, next item
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agendum 2 -- Smart agent/natural language dialogue system accessibility. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
14:13:35 [joconnor]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Voice_agent_user_requirements
14:15:33 [SteveNoble]
Judy: Voice agent seems a bit restrictive
14:17:41 [SteveNoble]
joconnor: The wiki sets up various definitions, and then drills down more to voice agents to limit scope
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14:19:27 [SteveNoble]
jasonjgw: If it doesn't have text input and output that can be an accessibility issue
14:20:14 [joconnor]
JW: we need to look at Natural language processing and dialogue systems
14:20:31 [SteveNoble]
jasonjgw: Some work in natural language has improved voice/text translation
14:21:14 [janina]
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14:21:48 [SteveNoble]
judy: Concerned that the topic has "voice agent" in the header - may seem disability restrictive
14:21:54 [joconnor]
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14:23:04 [SteveNoble]
Judy: Smart agent or digital assistant may be more inclusive
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s/may seem/it's/
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s/may be more/would be more/
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14:28:24 [SteveNoble]
janina: Consider web interface modality as a starting place - different paradigms - some have screen some do not - but here we have primarily a conversational approach
14:29:31 [janina]
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14:29:36 [SteveNoble]
joconnor: Primarily these tools focus on voice
14:30:13 [SteveNoble]
joconnor: Problem with the "big" umbrella is that is too large
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14:33:21 [SteveNoble]
JPaton: Makes sense to look at the whole digital assistant universe at some point, but makes sense to drill into more defined interfaces like voice assistants
14:33:54 [SteveNoble]
janina: Maybe "conversational assistant?"
14:35:07 [SteveNoble]
janina: If we can limit to certain knowledge domains we would get more meaningful results
14:36:32 [SteveNoble]
Judy: use cases to consider such as someone who is deaf, quiet speech, etc.
14:39:29 [joconnor]
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14:40:13 [SteveNoble]
Judy: the voice agent area may be very intriguing from a research perspective, but framing the discussion at a more cross-disability level at the start would be more helpful
14:42:22 [SteveNoble]
jasonjgw: The term "conversational agent" may be more inclusive -- allows for text input/output and so forth
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q+ to comment on helping with the definition
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14:43:59 [SteveNoble]
joconnor: We need a good definition to move forward
14:45:41 [SteveNoble]
jasonjgw: Natural language includes a much larger focus - not dependent upon speech
14:47:01 [janina]
q?
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14:48:45 [JPaton]
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14:48:48 [SteveNoble]
janina: This is why we had VoiceXML spec, but it never seemed to be implemented
14:49:49 [janina]
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14:49:49 [Zakim]
Judy, you wanted to comment on helping with the definition
14:49:59 [Judy]
[JB: NLP is a decades-old subfield of linguistics, and we can take advantage of these kinds of established definitions to help us frame our note]
14:50:06 [janina]
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14:51:47 [SteveNoble]
JPaton: Some systems include speech and text - not just speech
14:52:49 [SteveNoble]
jasonjgw: Could write something to start?
14:53:22 [SteveNoble]
joconnor: We need help on the definitions from others
14:53:39 [janina]
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14:54:29 [SteveNoble]
Judy: Agree that we need definitions, but doubt it can be done very quickly - make take more time to develop solid underpinnings
14:54:47 [janina]
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14:56:31 [SteveNoble]
jasonjgw: Can begin with writing the definition and then we can flesh out
14:58:25 [SteveNoble]
jasonjgw: Action for next meeting to work on the definition assigned to Jason
14:59:03 [jasonjgw]
zakim, next item
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agendum 3 -- XAUR: discussion prior to preparing for publication of wide review draft. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
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zakim, bye
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