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20:05:00 <wseltzer> present+ nadalin, agl, akshay, davidturner, jeffh, jeremyerickson, matthewmiller, selfissued, ninasatragno, raerivera, sbweeden, timcappalli
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20:07:43 <jfontana> tony: untriaged issues.
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20:09:09 <jfontana> https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1559
20:09:56 <jfontana> tony: don't this this will block PR, can assign to futures.
20:10:17 <jfontana> ...close or move to open status
20:10:36 <jfontana> MMiller: keep it open and close it out in the future.
20:11:02 <jfontana> https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1560
20:12:15 <jfontana> jeffH: in ctap 2.1 can manage discoverable credentials - this is not the web authn level
20:12:26 <jfontana> tony: wait for a response?
20:12:33 <jfontana> jeffH: wait for David.
20:12:38 <jfontana> ...to respond
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20:13:28 <nsteele> present+ mmiller
20:13:45 <mmiller> There we go
20:13:48 <jfontana> akshay: this is food for thought here
20:14:08 <jfontana> ...delete it.
20:14:15 <jfontana> https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1563
20:14:44 <jfontana> tony: seems like a deployment issue
20:15:08 <jfontana> nickS: I can flag this and discuss next week. I can chat with felix in CG
20:15:36 <jfontana> https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1566
20:16:07 <jfontana> tony: go back to #1565
20:16:14 <jfontana> https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1565
20:18:24 <jfontana> akshay: this is a newe API, something more for browsers to adapt
20:18:54 <jfontana> agl: can't get rid of the old name.
20:19:01 <jfontana> jeffH: in the actual api
20:19:16 <jfontana> akshay: close this is my suggestion
20:19:20 <jfontana> tony: any others?
20:19:38 <jfontana> mmiller: does levl 2 introduce the idea, is that the confusion
20:20:04 <jfontana> agl: resident keys have confused some people, we tried to clarify, but ran into old fields
20:20:13 <jfontana> ...want to support browsers that don't know Level 2
20:20:43 <jfontana> jefh: we did not change web IDL
20:22:01 <jfontana> mmiller: level 2 mandates values
20:22:03 <selfissued> I also suggest we close this
20:22:28 <jfontana> bradley RP still needs to send the old values for the old browsers
20:22:58 <selfissued> This would make things worse - not better
20:23:50 <jfontana> jeffH: we have a futures catchall
20:23:58 <jfontana> tony: let's put it there
20:24:01 <jfontana> https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1566
20:24:55 <jfontana> tony: need apple on the call
20:25:24 <jfontana> nickS;can submit to webkit. I will close this
20:25:31 <jfontana> https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1567
20:27:13 <jfontana> akshay: trying to create credential, need exclude list.
20:27:24 <jfontana> tony: close?
20:27:49 <jfontana> agl: don't think we should. Lucas is github, if they are struggling, others will
20:30:40 <jfontana> bradely: don't want to ask user to re-authenticate, this goes back to our past, have a hybrid-command
20:32:26 <jfontana> agl: what is the concrete use case?
20:32:53 <jfontana> nickS:I think this is a specific implementation issue
20:35:09 <jfontana> agl: let's reply and ask
20:36:21 <jfontana> mmiller: lots of RPs will struggle here from a naming perspective
20:37:02 <jfontana> bradley: i think this is more for re-authenticate. does not make sense for make credential
20:37:09 <jfontana> ..or before it happens
20:37:50 <jfontana> bradley: let's find out what he wants.=
20:38:12 <jfontana> nicks: I will follow up with him. and have him submit apple bug to webkit
20:38:21 <jfontana> https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1568
20:39:00 <jfontana> akshay: I think this is probably not needed.
20:39:17 <jfontana> agl: is lack of android support the crux here
20:39:29 <jfontana> ...yes
20:40:19 <jfontana> mmiller: what is going on here?
20:40:35 <jfontana> bradely: android does not support discoverable creds or CTAP2
20:41:42 <jfontana> tonhy: what do we do with #1568
20:41:51 <jfontana> ...move to futures
20:41:55 <jfontana> agl: L3?
20:42:05 <jfontana> tony: move to L3
20:42:48 <jfontana> https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1569
20:44:00 <jfontana> akshay: I need to look more on this, will follow-up
20:45:20 <jfontana> ...earlier, can add external key, did not specify transport. all keys are second factor. problem is we dont' have all the info. we need
20:45:56 <jfontana> tony: akshay will follow-up
20:46:13 <jfontana> jeeffH: do we need more information from cred props
20:48:20 <jfontana> selfissue: these all seem like L3 issuese
20:48:31 <jfontana> tony: I think we are done with open issues and triaged issues
20:48:52 <jfontana> ...two to follow up on #1560 and #1566. won't impact L2
21:00:17 <wseltzer> rrsagent, draft minutes
21:00:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/02/10-webauthn-minutes.html wseltzer
21:00:37 <wseltzer> chair: Nadalin, Fontana
21:00:42 <wseltzer> rrsagent, draft minutes
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21:01:54 <wseltzer> rrsagent, bye
21:01:54 <RRSAgent> I see no action items