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13:32:47 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessibility Education and Outreach Working Group (EOWG) Teleconference
13:32:47 <trackbot> Date: 05 February 2021
13:32:52 <SharronR> Chair: Shawn
13:32:59 <SharronR> Scribe: Sharron
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13:33:23 <SharronR> present+
13:33:37 <SharronR> Scribe: SharronR
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13:35:48 <Daniel> https://github.com/w3c/wai-curricula/issues/216
13:35:50 <Laura> present+ Laura
13:35:53 <SharronR> Brent: Thanks for coming,today we are only looking at the title of the curricula. A discussion has started there is a GitHib isshes so let's get started
13:36:24 <SharronR> Topic: Title of WAI Curricula
13:37:28 <SharronR> Daniel: I have put together in the issue a list of pros and cons and a couple of use cases to focus the discussion. Looking at people finding it from outside of WAI/W#C what will be most informative?
13:38:13 <Laura> q+
13:38:18 <SharronR> s/W#C/W3C
13:38:19 <kevin> q+
13:38:23 <brent> ack laura
13:38:36 <SharronR> Laura: I prefer Web Accessibility Curricula
13:38:36 <brent> ack Kevin
13:38:43 <JasonMcKee> present+
13:39:09 <shawn> q+
13:39:12 <shawn> present+
13:39:28 <brent> ack shawn
13:40:04 <SharronR> Kevin: Don't feel strongly either way. Thinking of the context, it is on our site so front loading is not as important. Back loading is a bit more clunky but ither is fine.
13:40:53 <estella> q+
13:40:55 <SharronR> Shawn: The issue came up when I was including it in a resource on an external list.
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13:41:33 <SharronR> Shadi: WAI Curricula is an easier phrase "Have tou seen the WAI Curricula?" etc
13:41:56 <SharronR> Shawn: So you are thinking of that as the colloquial title?
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13:42:18 <Howard> present+ Howard
13:42:32 <SharronR> Shadi: We say "The Perspectives videos" even though that is not the official name?
13:42:47 <estella> +1 to Shadi
13:43:02 <estella> q-
13:43:09 <shawn> zakim, who is on the phone?
13:43:10 <Zakim> Present: SharronR, Laura, JasonMcKee, shawn, Howard
13:44:15 <shawn> present+ Estella, Shadi, Brent, Kevin, Daniel
13:44:30 <SharronR> Estella: I agree that if there is a way to link WAI curricula with web accessibility that is good. You have a short name like "WAI curricula" how is it related to the title?
13:44:58 <kevin> q+
13:45:05 <SharronR> Daniel: We could have the short name in the nav and the longer one on the page.
13:45:26 <SharronR> Shawn: In the nav it can just be "Curricula" and not need WAI
13:45:27 <brent> ack kevin
13:46:02 <SharronR> Kevin: It is problematic to conflate WAI Curricula since it is not a curricula about WAI.
13:46:24 <SharronR> Shawn: And it requires you to know about WAI
13:47:09 <SharronR> Daniel: I hear people leaning toward "Web Accessibility Curricula" is that right?
13:47:42 <SharronR> Shawn: In messaging we could encourage people to use the full title.
13:49:06 <SharronR> Brent: I am OK with either. When I read Curricula on Web Accessibility it is here is some resource that will help and is flexible. The other 'Web Accessibility Curricula' denotes a one and only way to teach the topic.
13:49:36 <JasonMcKee> i'm ok either "way." no pun intended
13:49:49 <Daniel> https://wai-curricula.netlify.app/curricula/
13:49:57 <SharronR> Shawn: Does the intro page address that?
13:50:23 <SharronR> Brent: Yes and my response was just to a consideration of the title standing alone.
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13:51:55 <krisannekinney> present+
13:52:23 <Laura> q+
13:52:27 <SharronR> Brent: Looking at the whole title when I see the full title,  putting "Web Accessibility Curricula" does not agree with the subtitle
13:52:44 <SharronR> Daniel: If is really does sound so commanding, that is not our intention
13:52:51 <Howard> q+
13:53:23 <brent> ack laura
13:53:41 <kevin> +1 to Brent's comment
13:53:55 <brent> ack howard
13:53:58 <SharronR> Laura: Now that you say it that way Brent, I do agree with you when it is next to the subtitle. Maybe a short name because I agree when you add the tag line.
13:54:45 <SharronR> Howard: I agree as well. I like the front loading of curricula and starting with 'web accessibility' sounds more authoratative than we intend.
13:55:16 <SharronR> Daniel: Yes especially since we send people to other teaching resurces in and out of WAI.
13:57:00 <SharronR> Brent: Several other resources like Easy Chack, we lead with the resource focus and follow with Web Accessibility so there is precedent.
13:57:12 <SharronR> s/Chack/Checks
13:58:04 <SharronR> Daniel: I propose to keep the title as is based on use cases and current discussion.
13:58:11 <SharronR> SharronR: +1
13:58:18 <Howard> +1
13:58:32 <Laura> +1
13:58:44 <kevin> +1
13:58:58 <estella> +1
13:59:01 <shadi> +1
13:59:07 <JasonMcKee> +1
13:59:17 <krisannekinney> +1
13:59:28 <brent> +1
13:59:52 <SharronR> Brent: Daniel is there anything else?
14:01:57 <SharronR> Daniel: The Developer Module survey is open now to review and there will be another survey coming  to review the one first page of the entire curricula.
14:02:14 <SharronR> Topic: Work for this Week
14:02:55 <shawn> q+ to comment on reviewing changes
14:03:02 <shawn> ack me
14:03:02 <Zakim> shawn, you wanted to comment on reviewing changes
14:03:30 <SharronR> Brent: Reminder of surveys - the current one is the Approval to Publish, please answer even to say no time for completing. Shawn will do a review of updating GitHub issues.
14:04:39 <SharronR> Shawn: We often list things in Work for the Week as GitHub issues. I am happy to show how to do this for those who need that review.
14:05:31 <SharronR> Brent: So that concludes the main topics and the formal discussion. People are welcome to leave if they do not need this review.
14:06:29 <SharronR> Shawn: Shares screen, records in Zoom, and show how to use the links in W4TW to review and comment on GitHub issues.
14:07:43 <Daniel> q+ to mention "source" and "rich" GitHub diff views
14:09:21 <Daniel> q-
14:11:11 <SharronR> Brent: Are you asking people to approve in GitHub?
14:11:33 <SharronR> Shawn: No, if there are no objections to a monir issue, no need to do that.
14:11:44 <SharronR> s/monir/minor
14:12:10 <SharronR> Brent: Thank you Shawn, anything else?
14:12:58 <SharronR> ...thanks for joining today and helping to finalize the title.
14:13:10 <SharronR> trackbot, end meeting
14:13:10 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
14:13:10 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been SharronR, Laura, JasonMcKee, shawn, Howard, Estella, Shadi, Brent, Kevin, Daniel, krisannekinney
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14:13:19 <RRSAgent> I see no action items