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15:00:47 <kaz> Meeting: WoT-WG - TD-TF
15:00:54 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura
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15:05:50 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Koster, Daniel_Peintner
15:06:37 <kaz> present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch
15:06:41 <kaz> Chair: Sebastian
15:10:49 <sebastian> topic: review minutes
15:10:58 <kaz> scribenick: sebastian
15:11:02 <sebastian> https://www.w3.org/2021/01/27-wot-td-minutes.html
15:11:36 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
15:11:41 <kaz> s/html/html Jan-27/
15:11:54 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
15:12:55 <kaz> present+ Cristiano_Aguzzi
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15:14:52 <kaz> (Sebastian goes through the minutes)
15:15:26 <sebastian> any objections to bring them to public?
15:15:30 <sebastian> no
15:16:43 <kaz> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Thing_Description_WebConf#Feb_3.2C_2021
15:17:01 <sebastian> topic: WoT binding
15:18:16 <sebastian> there is a PR available about the Modbus work to provide a prototype document
15:18:17 <sebastian> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/109
15:19:09 <sebastian> so far, the PR have an TD example provided
15:21:08 <sebastian> there needs some still some work on different topics as mentioned in the PR
15:21:35 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
15:21:47 <Ege> https://w3c.github.io/wot-binding-templates/ontology/mqtt
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15:22:59 <kaz> s/109/109 wot-binding-templates PR 109 - Refining Modbus protocol binding/
15:23:02 <mjk> q?
15:23:54 <Ege> q+
15:24:39 <sebastian> there was some discussion about the structure of the new document
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15:25:57 <sebastian> it was recommended to follow the approach as  shown in chatper 5.3.1 of the binding template docuement in combination of a set of examples similar as shown in chapter 4.3.
15:26:24 <Ege> https://github.com/vcharpenay/uRDF.js
15:28:47 <kaz> s|https://w3c|-> https://w3c|
15:29:09 <kaz> s|/mqtt|/mqtt MQTT in RDF|
15:29:57 <mjk> q?
15:30:11 <kaz> present+ Christine_Perey
15:30:19 <sebastian> Ege: shall we work on the binding template document?
15:30:35 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
15:30:50 <kaz> s/uRDF.js/uRDF.js uRDF Store/
15:31:14 <sebastian> lets wait when we have the Modbus binding prototype ready and get agreement on this. Proposal to copy all protocol specifcs to seperate document
15:31:29 <kaz> s/lets/... let's/
15:31:40 <sebastian> Ege: do we need section 4.3?
15:32:14 <kaz> i|shall we|-> https://w3c.github.io/wot-binding-templates/#sec-interaction-patterns WoT Binding Templates Editor's Draft - 4.3 Interaction Affordances|
15:32:41 <sebastian> MK can support on the Modbus work
15:33:02 <cris> https://github.com/eclipse/thingweb.node-wot/tree/3e9ccd44072a097d0452b5c306819c6d8fb04e12/packages/binding-modbus#modbusrange
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15:33:53 <McCool_> (sorry I'm late, had a conflict)
15:34:02 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/issues/110
15:34:06 <kaz> present+ Michael_McCool
15:34:10 <sebastian> Chapter 4.3 will be updated by Ege
15:37:41 <kaz> topic: TD - PR 1042
15:38:16 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1042 TD PR 1042 - Add additionalResponses to Form
15:40:19 <kaz> sk: shows the preview of the table at "5.3.4.2 Form" including "response"
15:40:37 <kaz> -> https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/mmccool/wot-thing-description/pull/1042.html#form TD preview - 5.3.4.2 Form
15:42:14 <cris> q?
15:42:17 <cris> q+
15:42:24 <kaz> ack e
15:42:26 <Ege> https://developers.meethue.com/develop/hue-api/lights-api/
15:43:50 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
15:44:06 <Ege> a successful response is like:
15:44:07 <Ege> [     {"success":{"/lights/1/state/bri":200}},     {"success":{"/lights/1/state/on":true}},     {"success":{"/lights/1/state/hue":50000}} ]
15:44:34 <kaz> s/lights-api/lights-api Hue developer page (need login)/
15:45:01 <kaz> q?
15:45:04 <kaz> ack c
15:48:19 <Ege> example failure message in hue api
15:48:19 <Ege> [     {         "error": {             "type": 7,             "address": "/lights/1/state/on",             "description": "invalid value, 123,, for parameter, on"         }     },
15:48:44 <mjk> q?
15:59:25 <mjk> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6570
15:59:33 <mjk> URI templates
16:20:26 <kaz> topic: TD - PR 1034
16:20:53 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1034 PR 1034 - Init information about WoT relation types
16:22:07 <Ege> brb
16:23:13 <kaz> -> https://www.iana.org/assignments/link-relations/link-relations.xhtml IANA Link Relations
16:25:09 <kaz> -> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6573 RFC 6573 - The Item and Collection Link Relations
16:30:01 <kaz> (PR1034 has been merged)
16:30:12 <kaz> topic: TD - PR 1024
16:30:54 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1024 PR 1024 - WIP: Topics around Thing Model
16:31:49 <kaz> sk: shows Cristiano's 2nd example at https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1024#issuecomment-768966909
16:39:23 <McCool_> q+
16:40:17 <cris> q+
16:41:01 <McCool_> ack m
16:42:29 <sebastian> ack c
16:46:16 <McCool_> q+
16:47:33 <kaz> topic: TD Issue 972
16:47:53 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/972 TD Issue 972 - JSON Schema for Thing Model
16:48:50 <kaz> sk: shows his latest comments at https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/972#issuecomment-772565826
16:49:56 <kaz> q+
16:50:01 <kaz> ack m
16:52:24 <kaz> kaz: Think Model is a template to generate actual TDs
16:52:44 <kaz> ... so we don't have to make all the possible Thing Model valid JSON, do we?
16:52:48 <kaz> s/Think/Thing/
16:53:56 <kaz> ... maybe we could simply think about some preprocessing (to convert {{WATER_MINIMUM}} into a valid TD parameter) before applying some schema validation
16:56:41 <kaz> sk: if we wrap {{boolanKey}}, etc., with "" (double quotations), we could apply usual JSON Schema validation
16:57:30 <kaz> kaz: yeah, that's fine but we still need quick check of the template notation, i.e., {{booleanKey}}, is a valid expression as a Thing Model fragment
16:57:39 <kaz> s/boolanKey/booleanKey/
16:59:36 <kaz> ... so my question is, does a Thing Model really need to be a valid JSON?
16:59:44 <kaz> mm: think it should be
17:00:27 <kaz> kaz: ok, if the answer is yes, we should go for it :)
17:02:24 <kaz> sk: (adds some more comments to Issue 972)
17:02:44 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/972#issuecomment-772665041 Sebastian's new comments for Issue 972
17:03:11 <kaz> i/topic: TD Issue 972/scribenick: kaz/
17:03:47 <kaz> ek: btw, do we want to maintain two separate schemas?
17:05:59 <kaz> kaz: to be strict, Thing Model has a bit different syntax from usual Thing Description instance, so we still need to have two (a bit) different schemas, one for Thing Model and another for Thing Description
17:06:02 <kaz> sk: right
17:06:11 <kaz> [adjourned]
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