13:02:24 RRSAgent has joined #wot 13:02:24 logging to https://www.w3.org/2021/02/03-wot-irc 13:02:51 sebastian has joined #wot 13:02:51 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool, Sebastian_Kaebisch 13:02:59 Meeting: WoT-IG/WG 13:03:26 Chair: Sebastian/McCool 13:03:41 present+ Jack_Dickinson 13:05:19 tksuzuki has joined #wot 13:05:26 mjk has joined #wot 13:06:13 McCool has joined #wot 13:06:41 Ege has joined #wot 13:06:57 present+ Dave_Raggett, Michael_Koster, Takahisa_Suzuki, Tomoaki_Mizushima 13:07:02 zakim, pick a scribe 13:07:02 Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Ege_Korkan 13:07:14 zakim, pick a scribe 13:07:14 Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Sebastian_Kaebisch 13:07:20 zakim, pick a scribe 13:07:20 Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Jack_Dickinson 13:08:02 scribenick: mjk 13:08:10 present+ Tetsushi_Matsuda 13:08:17 zakim, who is on the call? 13:08:17 Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Jack_Dickinson, Dave_Raggett, Michael_Koster, 13:08:21 ... Takahisa_Suzuki, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Tetsushi_Matsuda 13:08:48 topic: agenda review 13:09:09 -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_March_2021 Agenda 13:10:24 topic: invited experts 13:10:49 seb: Michael Koster is applied for IE status, no longer with SmartThings 13:11:23 matsuda has joined #wot 13:11:49 seb: Philip? writing a WoT implementation on RiotOS is also a candidate for IE status 13:13:04 s/Philip?/Philip Blum from RIOT OS/ 13:13:08 topic: minutes from January 27th 13:13:26 s/from RIOT OS// 13:13:34 -> https://www.w3.org/2021/01/27-wot-minutes.html Jan-27 13:15:05 ryuichi has joined #wot 13:15:15 present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura 13:15:15 seb: any objections to publish the minutes? 13:15:24 (no objections) 13:15:50 topic: joint meeting with accessibility group 13:16:13 s/joint/review notes from joint/ 13:16:25 -> https://www.w3.org/2021/01/27-rqtf-minutes.html APA joint minutes 13:17:21 mm: ML created github issue for creating new use cases for accessibility 13:17:41 mm: some follow-on issues need to be created 13:18:03 seb: any objections to publish? 13:18:09 (no objections) 13:18:26 q+ 13:18:57 ack k 13:19:08 kaz: we should review the existing use cases and add more if needed 13:19:25 ml: APA group agreed to add issues 13:20:25 topic: updates 13:21:14 seb: new CG created Web of Things Japanese CG 13:22:03 toumura: it is a place for Japanese discussion, documentation, and use cases around WoT 13:22:19 s/add issues/add issues for use cases/ 13:23:40 mizushima: there are many people interested in WoT and we wanted to create a way to engage with deployment and other activities 13:24:05 seb: looking forward to more updates 13:24:11 dezell has joined #wot 13:25:29 topic: change github branch name to "main" 13:25:59 q+ to are there any issues known when changing to main? 13:26:12 mm: we should merge PRs first and agree on a date to change 13:26:38 seb: will the default branch be "main" now? 13:26:44 present+ David_Ezell 13:27:03 kaz: yes, "main" will be the new default 13:27:21 mm: maybe start with wot-testing as a first experience 13:28:00 kaz: there is a set of commands for doing this 13:28:26 s/doing this/doing this described in PLH's message/ 13:28:29 seb: we have until April, call to all TF leads to implement the change 13:29:17 ack dape 13:29:17 dape, you wanted to are there any issues known when changing to main? 13:29:24 daniel: are there any known issues being discussed? 13:29:50 kaz: none yet but there is a place for discussion 13:30:33 seb: which repo should we use as a first test? 13:30:57 mm: agree to implement on wot-testing 13:31:29 kaz: some have already switched over with no issues 13:32:30 mm: everyone will need to update their fork or re-something 13:33:35 ege: the github default is already "main" 13:34:02 (kaz suggest we@@ 13:34:12 topic: joint calls 13:34:27 s/we@@/we discus the detail during the PlugFest call later.)/ 13:34:33 seb: waiting for a schedule with Microsoft DTDL team 13:34:48 ml: they are too busy now 13:35:07 seb: what about the CDD ontology? 13:35:25 ... maybe a joint meeting at our F2F 13:35:48 ... also relevant to eclass 13:36:47 ( spelled ecl@ss) 13:37:37 seg: we would have more time at a F2F session 13:38:12 s/seg/seb/ 13:38:46 s/ecl@ss/ecl@ss - changed their spelling to "ECLASS" recently) 13:38:53 mm: we could have the joint meetings in one session if it works out 13:38:54 s/))/)/ 13:40:31 mm: collecting topics for the F2F, please add to the wiki page 13:41:54 https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_March_2021 13:42:48 topic: liaisons 13:43:01 seb: T2TRG? 13:43:30 mm: talked with Ari, there is a 2 hour session at IETF110 but it is pay to attend 13:43:56 ... scheduling a separate 2 hour joint call 13:44:19 ... agenda items include JSON Schema, OneDM 13:44:26 seb: OPC UA 13:44:43 https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/charters/wot-ocpua-2021-charter-draft.md 13:44:50 ... working on a proposal for a charter for the joint development activity 13:44:59 q+ 13:45:12 ... OPC UA W3C WoT WG 13:45:57 kaz: please don't use OPC UA W3C "Working Group" in the title 13:46:18 ... "collaboration proposal" would be safer 13:46:56 seb: ITU-T SG20 13:47:48 ... next steps to reach out and ask for review of MM's summary and identify gaps 13:47:51 action: kaz to send McCool's summary of the ITU-T SG20 work to them and invite them to the Use Cases call again 13:48:24 seb: OGC liaison 13:48:46 q+ 13:48:56 mm: had several meetings and now working with Christine Perey 13:49:08 kaz: working on extending the liaison as needed 13:49:39 s/liaison/liaison with OGC/ 13:49:42 mm: we need to meet again and get specifics about the planned work 13:50:03 q? 13:50:05 ack k 13:50:11 ... they could join one of our calls for further discussion 13:50:12 ack k 13:50:15 ack m 13:50:59 q+ 13:51:08 ml: will this impact the location information spec for TD? 13:51:40 mm: working on a concrete proposal for an information model based on the most recent plugfest 13:52:02 ... another consideration is the discovery query use case 13:52:38 ... MM and Christine Perey will make a strawman and review with OGC 13:52:59 ml: which group will review the use case strawman? 13:53:20 (use case first, discovery second and then possibly TD) 13:53:38 mm: some in AR for special query types, we will review in Discovery TF and TD TF 13:54:27 mm: will copy PF examples into a document as a starting place 13:54:34 s/special/spatial/ 13:54:39 q- 13:55:20 seb: echonet 13:55:36 kaz: will restart the discussion 13:55:48 topic: TF reports 13:56:26 rrsagent, make log public 13:56:27 dp: scripting trying to fine tune the API document around dictionary API and TD validation 13:56:33 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:56:33 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/02/03-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:57:25 mm: security - pending PR for security and privacy for Discovery 13:57:53 ... reviewing 3 implementations for feature coverage 13:59:05 seb: marketing - almost ready to release document and web landing page 13:59:17 ... still need to work on content 13:59:45 q+ 14:00:30 seb: TD call discussion on 1.1 to 2.0 feature thresholds 14:01:10 ... issues about JSON schema version and features 14:01:50 s|web landing page|once the wot-marketing repo content is fixed, we can update the redirection from https://www.w3.org/WoT/ to https://w3c.github.io/wot-marketing/| 14:02:09 ... more issues to discuss today including a Modbus binding 14:02:47 ml: architecture: discussed partial TD and TD fragment 14:03:11 mm: JSON fragment has a special meaning that may conflict with TD fragment 14:03:50 ... profile - discussed constraints on size and complexity 14:04:01 s/once/we expect once/ 14:04:08 ... more discussion is needed on tomorrow's call 14:04:11 q? 14:04:37 sk: take a 5 minute break and close 14:04:47 kaz: one comment on marketing report 14:05:09 ... added a note about redirection to the new home page 14:05:26 s/new home page/wot welcome page/ 14:05:30 sk: change to wot-pf in 5 mins, and adjourn 14:05:57 [main call adjourned; PlugFest call starts in 5mins] 14:06:03 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:06:03 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/02/03-wot-minutes.html kaz 14:41:42 dsr_ has joined #wot 15:16:59 dsr_ has joined #wot 15:35:02 dsr_ has joined #wot 16:27:15 Zakim has left #wot 16:31:17 dsr_ has joined #wot 16:56:54 dsr_ has joined #wot 18:01:57 dsr_ has joined #wot 18:42:18 dsr_ has joined #wot 19:18:54 dsr_ has joined #wot 20:25:52 dsr_ has joined #wot 21:35:52 dsr_ has joined #wot 22:03:01 dsr_ has joined #wot 22:35:19 dsr_ has joined #wot 23:07:52 dsr_ has joined #wot