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12:01:41 <kaz> Meeting: WoT Marketing
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12:11:16 <kaz> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Marketing_WebConf#Jan_26.2C_2021
12:11:36 <kaz> scribenick: cris
12:11:38 <cris> topic: previous minutes
12:11:49 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2021/01/19-wot-marketing-minutes.html Jan-19
12:11:57 <cris> sebastian: we spoke about video captions
12:12:37 <cris> ... also we discussed about web site content. In particular,  we focused on the menu entries and the getting started page
12:13:07 <cris> ... Ege proposed to use the lecture material that he is using for IoT course at TUM
12:13:19 <cris> ... any objections to publish the minutes?
12:13:31 <cris> ... ok, minutes approved.
12:13:35 <cris> topic: video
12:13:53 <cris> sebastian: I'll show you the current version of the video.
12:13:59 <cris> ... (showing the video)
12:17:50 <cris> cris: the video is great, well done!
12:18:06 <cris> sebastian: I'm really satisfied about this version of the video
12:18:22 <cris> ... from my side it is ready to be published
12:18:41 <kaz> q+
12:18:52 <cris> ... last issue is to add a watermark logo on the top right corner
12:19:00 <cris> mc: I like it too
12:19:17 <cris> ... we have to chose the thumbnail for the video
12:19:44 <cris> ... can we choose a thumbnail for youtube?
12:19:55 <cris> cris: yes, it is possible
12:20:14 <cris> mc: the last scene is boring I like the one with wot in the background
12:20:19 <kaz> q?
12:20:19 <cris> cris: +1 from my side
12:20:34 <kaz> +1
12:20:44 <cris> mc: maybe the watermark will not fit very well in every frame
12:21:00 <cris> ... if it is small it should work
12:21:33 <cris> sebastian: I think it is ready to conclude the work with the video
12:21:43 <cris> mc: I'll prepare the paper work to pay the author
12:22:24 <kaz> present+ Coralie_Mercier
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12:22:37 <kaz> q?
12:22:41 <koalie> present+ Coralie
12:22:44 <cris> mc: my main concern is that the video is promising a lot. I hope we could deliver the same experience
12:22:55 <koalie> [Coralie arrives; apologizes for losing track of time :/ ]
12:23:21 <cris> sebastian: (summarize what we had discussed so far for Coralie)
12:23:54 <koalie> q+
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12:24:15 <cris> sebastain: (shows a thumbnail proposal)
12:24:17 <kaz> present+ Daniel_Peintner
12:24:38 <cris> Coralie: I am not sure about the process to use the thubnail
12:24:45 <cris> ... where do you want to publish the video?
12:24:58 <kaz> s/thubnail/thumbnail/
12:25:06 <cris> sebastian: it is ok to publish in the main w3c youtube channel
12:25:15 <koalie> ack me
12:25:33 <cris> mc: I agree too. btw our explainer video is there.
12:25:43 <cris> ... but it has a wrong thumbnail
12:25:52 <cris> sebastian: right
12:26:07 <cris> kaz: let's ask Dominique
12:26:32 <cris> ... by the way we have to make sure that the animator is working on the caption
12:26:51 <kaz> s/caption/caption as well/
12:26:52 <cris> sebastian: first he'll finish the video with the watermark
12:26:56 <kaz> ack k
12:27:11 <cris> sebastian: youtube has a caption feature
12:27:28 <cris> kaz: we can provide the caption file ourself
12:27:35 <cris> ... and than convert
12:28:14 <kaz> s/we can provide the caption file ourself/if the animator can provide a caption file, e.g., WebVTT or TTML, we can ask Dom to work on that for Webcaster./
12:28:21 <kaz> s/... and than convert//
12:28:40 <cris> topic: Website PRs
12:29:03 <cris> daniel: there are two PR. The first is about the navigation bar
12:29:19 <kaz> -> https://w3c.github.io/wot-marketing/ Welcome page
12:29:46 <cris> ... the home entry in the navigation bar was removed.
12:29:49 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/105 PR 105 - Navi updates
12:30:03 <cris> ... the second one is about the activities entry
12:30:15 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/107 PR 107 - feat: restructure general activities entry page
12:31:05 <cris> ... the activity page is split in three sections.
12:31:34 <cris> ... activities relative to task forces, general events and Web Conference meetings
12:31:44 <cris> mc: do we have content for each task force?
12:31:50 <kaz> q+ to mention use cases tf and marketing tf
12:31:53 <cris> daniel: yes we do
12:32:20 <cris> ... I removed the taskforces without content
12:32:56 <cris> mc: It useful to add use cases meeting because it is the very first point of contact with the outsiders
12:33:41 <cris> ... you might add the dates for vF2F and PlugFest. They are almost fixed.
12:33:52 <cris> daniel: I'll do
12:34:31 <kaz> s/It useful/It's usefule/
12:34:39 <kaz> s/usefule/useful/
12:35:09 <cris> sebastian: in the entry page, what about adding the video here?
12:35:33 <cris> daniel: good question, I would not autoplay but yes we could try to add
12:36:00 <cris> mc: Why don't you try to add it below the tweets feed?
12:36:31 <cris> ... getting started is a little vague. It should be renamed (i.e., documentation)
12:36:32 <kaz> q?
12:36:43 <cris> ... tutorials link is also missing
12:36:55 <cris> daniel: right
12:37:33 <cris> q+
12:38:09 <cris> mc: also I'd add a link to the spec in the documentation page
12:38:41 <cris> daniel: there's already the link in the task force pages
12:38:51 <cris> mc: we could link from multiple points
12:39:22 <cris> ... IMO Getting Started should be called Documentation and Developers Tutorials
12:40:03 <cris> ack cris
12:40:27 <cris> q?
12:40:50 <cris> daniel: about the video we have to work on it
12:41:01 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/ Jeff's video thumbnail on the WoT Landing page
12:41:24 <cris> kaz: we can something like in the page above
12:41:33 <kaz> ack k
12:41:33 <Zakim> kaz, you wanted to mention use cases tf and marketing tf
12:42:31 <cris> sebastian: daniel, could you provide some options for video position?
12:43:20 <cris> daniel: At least we could have it as a tweet
12:43:38 <cris> ... the problem is that the tweet will be moved downwards
12:43:58 <sebastian> q?
12:44:41 <cris> cris: I've seen video used as gif background
12:44:55 <cris> mc: I think positioning it below the tweet feed it is ok
12:44:56 <kaz> s/we can something/we can do something/
12:45:08 <cris> daniel: I'll show some picture proposal
12:45:21 <cris> ... did you merge the two PRs?
12:45:25 <kaz> s/the page above/the WoT Landing page above/
12:45:29 <cris> sebastian: It is the next step
12:46:07 <cris> daniel: ok I'm merging the navi update
12:46:37 <kaz> s/like in/like Jeff's video thumbnail at the left bottom of/
12:46:51 <cris> ... merging also #107
12:46:57 <cris> ... it should be live soon
12:47:31 <kaz> q+
12:48:28 <kaz> q-
12:48:48 <cris> kaz: Poc task meetings are very important because we discuss there testing and other issues
12:48:58 <cris> ... I think it should be added soon
12:49:20 <cris> topic: add TUM courses material
12:49:43 <cris> sebastian: Ege kindly shared the content of its course about WoT
12:50:13 <cris> sebastian: (shows the content of one of the pdf provided)
12:50:21 <kaz> s/Poc task meetings are/regarding the Activities page, removing the other TFs like Use Cases, PlugFest and Marketing is fine at the moment, but those TFs are also/
12:50:27 <cris> sebastian: there's some unrealted information
12:50:46 <cris> s/unrealted/unrelated/
12:50:58 <kaz> i/add TUM/mm: agree, and would like to talk about that during the Use Cases call, etc., this week./
12:51:34 <cris> mc: we could share them anyway if we clarify that the material is from TUM
12:52:00 <cris> ... of course reorganizing it as a WoT tutorial would be better
12:52:10 <cris> daniel: we should ask Ege
12:52:25 <cris> mc: usually course material is owned by University
12:52:36 <cris> ... we need their permission in the end
12:52:58 <cris> sebastian: agree we should talk about it with Ege
12:53:32 <cris> mc: still we could integrate this work stating clearly that it is a TUM tutorial
12:53:56 <cris> sebastian: I'd merge the PR so that we have the files and later organize in links
12:54:02 <cris> ... ege should have also videos
12:54:34 <cris> mc: there's also a course by University of Barcellona
12:55:05 <cris> ... we could link those course in the tutorial section
12:55:39 <kaz> rrsagent, make lo public
12:55:39 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make lo public', kaz.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
12:55:48 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:55:50 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:55:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/26-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz
12:57:05 <cris> mc: wot farm would be cool to have the farm up and running
12:58:43 <cris> ... Intel could provide a server
12:59:25 <cris> ... it would be a nice playground to understand wot specification
12:59:53 <cris> sebastian: ok. About PR 106 should we merge it?
12:59:57 <cris> mc: ok
13:00:00 <cris> daniel: ok
13:00:08 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/106 PR 106
13:00:24 <kaz> s/PR 106/PR 106 - add TUM courses for tutorial/
13:00:34 <kaz> [adjourned]
13:00:53 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:00:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/26-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz
13:02:16 <kaz> np
13:02:30 <kaz> s/np//