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21:02:11 <PWinstanley> meeting: DXWG Pplenary
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21:02:40 <PWinstanley> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2021.01.26
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21:08:04 <PWinstanley> agenda - https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2021.01.26
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21:08:28 <PWinstanley> proposed:  accept https://www.w3.org/2020/12/01-dxwg-minutes
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21:10:09 <annette_g> apparently I was there
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21:10:51 <PWinstanley> resolved:  accept https://www.w3.org/2020/12/01-dxwg-minutes
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21:12:14 <AndreaPerego> topic: DCAT
21:12:46 <roba> riccardoAlbertoni: recap: met last Wed - focus on DCAT requirements pending
21:13:07 <roba> ... selected easy to close - 3 out of 11 closed
21:13:25 <roba> ... how to represent CRS - example already included
21:14:03 <roba> ... publication control for metadata - considered unhelpful to limit
21:15:00 <roba> ... related vocabulary mapping to DCAT - not evidence in Use Case to link, more than one way possible, not possible to select a single solution.
21:15:49 <roba> ... recieved feedback on WD from Renaton Iannelli - about new class for "Data Series"
21:16:15 <roba> PWinstanley: we are trying to plan how much work to be done in near future.
21:16:47 <roba> ... how much capacity do we have - levels of commitment to DCAT work?
21:18:19 <roba> ... looking for evidence that people have looked and find it is acceptable
21:18:50 <roba> ... its an iceberg - what we see is a small subset
21:19:07 <riccardoAlbertoni> q?
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21:20:17 <AndreaPerego> topic: CONNEGP
21:20:20 <roba> topc: updates on ConnegP
21:20:28 <roba> s/topc/topic/
21:20:57 <AndreaPerego> s/topic: CONNEGP//
21:20:57 <roba> Nick: waiting on feedback from IETF process on use of link headers
21:21:12 <roba> ... have asked Lars for recent headers
21:21:36 <roba> s/recent headers/update.
21:21:59 <PWinstanley> s/recieved/received/
21:22:06 <roba> ... we have a fallback - to make HTTP a informative section
21:22:39 <roba> ... Feedback from communities looking for means to provide alternative geometries.
21:23:17 <roba> ... in OGC testbed Nick (SURROUND) implemented OGC APIs with ConnegP.,
21:24:04 <PWinstanley> roba: been rebuilding APIs for OGC, awaiting the decision of IETF
21:24:14 <ncar> Draft rendering of the PROF Implementation Report: https://raw.githack.com/w3c/dx-prof/implementations/prof-implementation-report/index.html
21:24:30 <roba> roba: have been updating OGC infrastructure to support ConnegP header changes - can handle whatever way it falls out.
21:24:48 <roba> topic: PROF update
21:25:11 <roba> Nick: implementation using all components in place
21:25:38 <roba> ... when OGC deployment last property to have implementation evidence covered
21:26:13 <roba> ... work on multiple aspects of prof - cataloguing, validation, documentation etc
21:26:40 <roba> PWinstanley: is checka getting much interest (forking, starring)
21:26:43 <ncar> Profiles Catalogue: https://profcat.conneg.info
21:27:10 <roba> Nick: not a lot but a range of commercial activities using it
21:27:55 <roba> ... Profiles catalog up at w3id.org - a DCAT profile for profiles, with ConnegP
21:28:13 <roba> ... expect OGC and others to also have similar catalogs
21:28:36 <roba> PWinstanley: does this subclass resource - have Profile as a subclass of dcat:Resource?
21:29:15 <roba> Nick: yes it does.. tool called CatPrez - "vanilla DCAT" - with profile based plugin to extend
21:29:28 <roba> PWinstanley: mutant of VocPrez?
21:29:51 <roba> Nick: yes a generalised version
21:30:19 <roba> ... supports polymorphism - DCAT and Profiles
21:30:23 <ncar> DGGS Cat: https://dggs.org/
21:30:35 <roba> PWinstanley: can use for Datasets and Services ?
21:31:13 <roba> Nick: yes we have an example from the OGC testbed work (DGGS)
21:31:59 <roba> PWinstanley: in DCAT 3 we have opportunity to update implementations - subclass pattern of interest
21:32:40 <roba> Nick: if someone can provide some test data from multiple DCAT profiles we can tick off DCAT 3 properties.
21:33:07 <ncar> GeoSPARQL 1.1 Profile: https://github.com/opengeospatial/ogc-geosparql/blob/master/1.1/profile.ttl
21:33:07 <roba> Nick: we have a high profile implementation of PROF for GeoSPARQL
21:33:24 <ncar> GeoSPARQL: https://raw.githack.com/opengeospatial/ogc-geosparql/master/1.1/profile.html
21:34:46 <roba> ... GeoSPARQL WG realise they have multiple parts, can be handled a set of profiles - handling both versioning and collation of resources
21:35:19 <roba> Nick: We have other groups contact us around use of profiles - e.g, IEC CIM
21:35:52 <roba> PWinstanley: yes a number of people in Norway ?
21:36:09 <roba> Nick: yes - and Lawrence Livermore in US
21:36:49 <roba> Rachel: are profiles on base on DCAT?
21:37:19 <roba> PWinstanley: two lines of work - update of DCAT and Content-negotiation-by-profile
21:38:24 <roba> ... originally ... requesting of a server what profiles are available... PROF allows declaration of what other profiles these may be compliant with
21:40:40 <roba> roba: PROF meets a set of requirements not specific to DCAT
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21:41:01 <roba> ... is there roadmap for DCAT profile publication?
21:41:13 <roba> PWinstanley: Max ?
21:41:41 <roba> Nick: could be a nice demonstrator...
21:42:06 <roba> ... could include VOID as well to illustrate mapping...
21:42:21 <roba> PWinstanley: could include domain-specific ones
21:42:23 <Makx> You mean the European profile? No schedule known yet.
21:42:37 <roba> ... and national profiles
21:43:23 <roba> roba: this is an issue of governance - we have lots of examples
21:43:45 <roba> PWinstanley: EU has groups in place..
21:43:58 <roba> topic: Promotion and followup of DCAT v3 PWD
21:46:19 <roba> PWinstanley: who has been able to send out note about DCAT v3, capacity to do more or ideas on how to get more feedback from people already approached?
21:46:29 <ncar> q+
21:46:39 <PWinstanley> acl ncar
21:46:44 <PWinstanley> ack ncar
21:48:13 <roba> Nick: as user of catalogues can give some semi-indepedent feedback on what DCAT v3 may offer
21:48:20 <ncar> I can provide semi-independent feedback on DCAT3 by using it with my clients. I've not been involved in DCAT3 but am in DXWG, hence the semi-independent claim
21:48:29 <annette_g> can we reiterate links to the spreadsheet and the prewritten note?
21:48:41 <riccardoAlbertoni> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_f5CAZv7rgUjJH5YXkmD6w5xS6GX5X2AmEp_LMptAfQ/edit#gid=560881316
21:49:15 <roba> topic: open actions
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21:50:39 <roba> PWinstanley: 413 - reconvening working groups
21:51:03 <roba> Nick: have not had substantial changes to process - so can close now
21:51:33 <roba> ... can reconvene when necessary
21:51:51 <roba> PWinstanley: #210 on guidance note gap analysis?
21:52:20 <roba> Nick: we dont have people to do the guidance work so this is not progressable
21:52:20 <PWinstanley> proposed: close action 210 as unlikely to get completed
21:52:33 <roba> +1
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21:52:44 <annette_g> doesn't closing imply it was complete?
21:52:45 <Makx> +1
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21:53:11 <PWinstanley> resolved: close action 210 as unlikely to get completed
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21:53:40 <riccardoAlbertoni> close action-210
21:53:40 <trackbot> Closed action-210.
21:54:05 <PWinstanley> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/429
21:55:26 <riccardoAlbertoni> close action-429
21:55:26 <trackbot> Closed action-429.
21:55:35 <AndreaPerego> q+
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21:55:47 <roba> PWinstanley: AOB?
21:56:33 <roba> AndreaPerego: new version of Geospatial version of DCAT-AP aligned with DCAT v2 published just before christmas
21:56:57 <roba> ... looked at what is happening on GeoSPARQL - used terms from 1.1
21:57:43 <roba> ... looks like some properties may be relevant for DCAT v3
21:58:23 <roba> ... q for Nick: is it possible to follow the GeoSPARQL living draft?
21:59:26 <roba> Nick: in theory yes ... decision was to be open - issues in 1.1 draft - rendering to HTML not yet available
21:59:49 <roba> ... shortly available - meeting tomorrow with raise
22:00:00 <roba> s/with/will/
22:00:13 <ncar> GeoSPARQL 1.1 spec folder: https://github.com/opengeospatial/ogc-geosparql/tree/master/1.1/spec
22:00:18 <riccardoAlbertoni> GeoDCAT-AP - Version 2.0.0 available at  https://semiceu.github.io/GeoDCAT-AP/drafts/latest/
22:00:49 <Makx> And here https://semiceu.github.io/GeoDCAT-AP/releases/2.0.0/
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22:01:31 <roba> ... issue is rendering needs to be updated automatically.. will raise with WG
22:02:21 <ncar> Great to be back in touch everyone! I hope to attend some DCAT meetings for DCAT3 demo use
22:02:33 <AndreaPerego> GeoDCAT-AP 2: https://semiceu.github.io/GeoDCAT-AP/releases/2.0.0/
22:02:51 <riccardoAlbertoni> close action-413
22:02:51 <trackbot> Closed action-413.
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