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16:08:02 <trackbot> Meeting: Mobile Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
16:08:02 <trackbot> Date: 21 January 2021
16:08:25 <Kim_patch> present+
16:08:54 <Kim_patch> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mobile-a11y-tf/2021Jan/0006.html
16:09:05 <Kim_patch> https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/1489
16:14:42 <Kim_patch> Kim: I like Sukriti's email. One larger issue – desktop and mobile increasingly coming together
16:16:31 <Kim_patch> Detlev: an iOS double top and hold and then drag – that may not be easy to do. Even if it's universally available that way of implementing it would not really make a difference.
16:17:12 <Kim_patch> Sukriti: on android long press and hold – have to change settings to enable
16:18:53 <Kim_patch> Detlev: it says these may not become universal – this is the main point we need to tackle – assistive touches aren't equivalent to single tap operations
16:19:27 <Kim_patch> Sukriti: overall stance is that we still need this success criteria
16:19:51 <Kim_patch> Detlev: not the case that with more universal assistive touch it would be solved
16:22:17 <Kim_patch> Detlev: we've asked a few people including people in Munich who are working with mice and speech input and someone else with spastick impairments and they all said they could do – quite proud of that, but they are all experts
16:27:07 <Kim_patch> Sukriti: there's the point that it's not necessarily easy even if you can do it
16:27:27 <Kim_patch> Detlev: assistive touch is not available or doable for many people – that's reason enough
16:28:01 <Kim_patch> Sukriti: cd c:\Buildif you can't get to the application what's the point of making it accessible
16:28:20 <Kim_patch> Sukriti: that's a backward argument
16:32:45 <Kim_patch> ACTION: Detlev will send Sukriti some more thoughts and Sukriti will summarize
16:32:45 <trackbot> Created ACTION-91 - Will send sukriti some more thoughts and sukriti will summarize [on Detlev Fischer - due 2021-01-28].
16:35:22 <Kim_patch>  chair: Kimberly_Patch
16:35:59 <Kim_patch> Present+ Sukriti, Detlev
16:36:20 <Kim_patch>  zakim, list participants
16:36:20 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Kim_patch, Sukriti, Detlev
16:36:32 <Kim_patch> rrsagent, make minutes
16:36:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/21-mobile-a11y-minutes.html Kim_patch
16:39:20 <Kim_patch> rrsagent, bye
16:39:20 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in https://www.w3.org/2021/01/21-mobile-a11y-actions.rdf :
16:39:20 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Detlev will send Sukriti some more thoughts and Sukriti will summarize [1]
16:39:20 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2021/01/21-mobile-a11y-irc#T16-32-45