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13:55:07 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
13:55:07 <trackbot> Date: 20 January 2021
13:55:16 <jasonjgw> chair: jasonjgw
13:55:19 <jasonjgw> present+
13:55:22 <jasonjgw> agenda+        APA Working Group Charter development and the RQTF contribution.
13:55:22 <jasonjgw> agenda+        RAUR and XAUR – review, issues, and progress toward publication.
13:55:22 <jasonjgw> agenda+        W3C Workshop on Wide Color Gamut and High Dynamic Range for the Web.
13:55:25 <jasonjgw> agenda+        MiniApp accessibility.
13:55:28 <jasonjgw> agenda+        Accessibility of remote meetings and relationship with Education/Outreach working group deliverables.
13:55:31 <jasonjgw> agenda+        Miscellaneous updates and topics relevant to Task Force work.
13:55:42 <jasonjgw> zakim, list agenda
13:55:42 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda:
13:55:43 <Zakim> 1. APA Working Group Charter development and the RQTF contribution. [from jasonjgw]
13:55:43 <Zakim> 2. RAUR and XAUR – review, issues, and progress toward publication. [from jasonjgw]
13:55:43 <Zakim> 3. W3C Workshop on Wide Color Gamut and High Dynamic Range for the Web. [from jasonjgw]
13:55:43 <Zakim> 4. MiniApp accessibility. [from jasonjgw]
13:55:44 <Zakim> 5. Accessibility of remote meetings and relationship with Education/Outreach working group deliverables. [from jasonjgw]
13:55:45 <Zakim> 6. Miscellaneous updates and topics relevant to Task Force work. [from jasonjgw]
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14:02:42 <joconnor> present+
14:02:50 <joconnor> scribe: joconnor
14:03:06 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
14:03:06 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- APA Working Group Charter development and the RQTF contribution. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
14:04:07 <joconnor> JW:  We had an understanding from last time that APA are looking at us for some balance between deliverables and what we would work on again, strong commitment that  may limit topics
14:04:12 <janina> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2021/charter.html
14:04:21 <joconnor> We discussed that the MAUR is up for review, and potential AI topics
14:04:28 <joconnor> that could be examples in a charter
14:04:41 <joconnor> JS: Thats fair
14:04:57 <joconnor> We should all read that.
14:05:05 <joconnor> Its good for the charter to be more general
14:05:26 <joconnor> SH: If we did revisit MAUR what is the process for bringing other in?
14:05:43 <joconnor> JS: All those people are still welcome.
14:05:52 <joconnor> Process is open - we could add a CG
14:05:57 <joconnor> Thats how Silver is working
14:06:40 <joconnor> JS: Also versioning up still gives credit to those on previous versions
14:06:51 <joconnor> JW: That is important.
14:07:39 <joconnor> <Groups wonders what Sylia  Pfeiffer is up to>
14:08:09 <joconnor> JW: Any else?
14:08:18 <joconnor> JS: I'm comfortable with what we've got/
14:08:36 <joconnor> JW:  We also discussed if we were to list RAUR and XAUR etc?
14:08:54 <joconnor> JS: Not sure if that was settled - no harm in listing them.
14:09:40 <joconnor> JS: We didn't discuss if RQTF needs to defend our publication, purpose etc
14:09:45 <joconnor> JOC: Why?
14:10:00 <joconnor> JS: To explain the background etc - we can do that.
14:10:12 <joconnor> We have something like that from Roy on Personalization.
14:10:24 <joconnor> JW: We are reaching agreement, comments?
14:10:44 <joconnor> JS: Are we saying we want to revisit the MAUR?
14:10:57 <joconnor> JW: No-one is speaking against that
14:11:10 <joconnor> SH: Its a great idea
14:11:19 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
14:11:19 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- RAUR and XAUR – review, issues, and progress toward publication. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
14:11:51 <joconnor> JW: To summarize Josh is working on the issues we have addressed in recent meetings.
14:12:01 <joconnor> The XAUR, we are waiting review comments.
14:12:22 <joconnor> JS: Yes, I'm delayed in contacting Immersive Web
14:12:30 <joconnor> JS: We should re-read it.
14:12:50 <joconnor> We got good feedback at the 11th hour with RAUR.
14:13:05 <joconnor> JW: Lets add XAUR discussion for the next two weeks hence
14:13:20 <joconnor> Next week we have the WoT/APA call
14:13:40 <joconnor> JOC: We still have some RAUR issues to walk through
14:14:06 <joconnor> We still have 122, 123, 124
14:14:07 <jasonjgw> Josh: notes additional RAUR issues for discussion.
14:14:17 <joconnor> https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/122
14:14:18 <joconnor>  etc
14:18:07 <joconnor> TOPIC: [ITU-T] 2.2 Routing and communication channel control #122
14:18:11 <joconnor> https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/122
14:22:54 <joconnor> The RQTF team seems to feel this requirement is already in RAUR https://www.w3.org/TR/raur/#routing-and-communication-channel-control
14:23:39 <joconnor> TOPIC: [ITU-T] 2.6 Emergency calls: Support for Real-time text (RTT) #123
14:23:42 <joconnor> https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/123
14:26:29 <SteveNoble> Josh: the and/or has captured the distinction - we asked for riche media but we have fall-back mechanisms
14:27:33 <joconnor> TOPIC:  [ITU-T] 2.10 Live transcription and captioning support #124
14:27:37 <joconnor> https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/124
14:28:54 <SteveNoble> Commentator asks, "Isn’t live transcription and captioning same thing?"
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14:30:42 <joconnor> The symbol needs to captioning specific
14:30:50 <joconnor> https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/124
14:32:52 <joconnor>  We could solve this with REQ 12a: Honor user preferences relating to live transcription and captioning as well as provide support for signing or related symbol sets.
14:33:55 <SteveNoble> Judy: captioning can sometimes relate to recorded or live media, while live events will have live transcriptions
14:35:09 <SteveNoble> Janina: we are talking here about real-time, so the distinction seems moot
14:37:24 <SteveNoble> Josh: not a huge gain in making these distinction
14:38:19 <joconnor> • REQ 12a: Honor user preferences relating to live transcription, captioning  and provide support for signing or an AAC related symbol set.
14:38:22 <SteveNoble> Janina: Could include something like "e.g., AAC"
14:39:30 <joconnor> • REQ 12a: Honor user preferences relating to live transcription, captioning  and provide support for signing or related symbol set e.g. an AAC.
14:40:09 <joconnor> • REQ 12a: Honor user preferences relating to live transcription, captioning  and provide support for signing or type of symbol set e.g. AAC.
14:43:41 <SteveNoble> Janina: useful to refer our suggested change to commenter
14:43:52 <joconnor> scribe: joconnor
14:44:24 <joconnor> TOPIC: New User Needs documents
14:45:21 <jasonjgw> Josh: potential options have been raised for further user needs-related documents that could be developed.
14:45:53 <jasonjgw> MiniApp accessibility could lead to a document.
14:46:10 <jasonjgw> Voice interaction is another possibility.
14:46:43 <jasonjgw> Cosnideration has been given to supporting the work of Silver/WCAG 3 regarding speech interfaces.
14:47:02 <jasonjgw> MAUR is also on the lst.
14:47:11 <jasonjgw> Janina: MiniApps, voice agents, and MAUR.
14:47:17 <joconnor> SH: There is also remote meeting
14:47:30 <joconnor> JW: Thats on the agenda
14:47:54 <joconnor> JB: Just to comment on this
14:48:09 <joconnor> Regarding Mini Apps there is work on this via Roy
14:48:16 <joconnor> It could be helpful to work with him.
14:48:33 <joconnor> The question is how much of a deep dive would have to be done.
14:48:57 <joconnor> On Voice Agents area - there is a workshop in progress, a little on the backburner now.
14:49:09 <joconnor> Roy will have some input also into that.
14:49:24 <joconnor> The question is about efficiency.
14:50:04 <joconnor> We need to support out the level of involvement.
14:50:13 <joconnor> JS: Josh is talking about a user needs doc.
14:50:23 <joconnor> JB: This may not be the time to do that.
14:51:23 <joconnor> JS:  Regarding MAUR - it exists because we had a need for supporting media in HTML 5.
14:51:39 <joconnor> There were many areas that needed to be specified.
14:52:28 <joconnor> JB: We are in a different situation now.
14:53:08 <joconnor> JS: How can we do that without articulating user needs and requirements?
14:53:12 <joconnor> JB: DOnt know.
14:53:16 <joconnor> q+
14:53:59 <joconnor> JS: This is an old argument - to get involvement and capture use cases, before turning to specification writing.
14:56:50 <joconnor> JW: Natural language dialog systems are what we call them
14:57:28 <joconnor> JB: The Mini Apps and Smart Agent work is being led out of China.
14:58:14 <joconnor> JS: So are we going to get Josh working on one? Or is two a possibility?
14:58:23 <joconnor> JB: We have some resource here.
14:58:33 <joconnor> We could spread out the work a bit.
15:00:32 <joconnor> JOC: Lets come back to this
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15:00:41 <joconnor> JW: Should Mini Apps remain on the agenda?
15:00:45 <joconnor> JS: Yes
15:00:54 <joconnor> JW: We can discuss in two weeks.
15:01:07 <joconnor> JW: Thanks everyone.
15:01:15 <jasonjgw> zakim, bye
15:01:15 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been jasonjgw, SteveNoble, scott_h, JPaton, joconnor
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