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13:03:43 <kaz> Meeting: WoT Use Cases
13:05:17 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Georg, Michael_Lagally
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13:07:24 <kaz> present+ Michael_McCool, Tomoaki_Mizushima
13:08:49 <kaz> scribenick: McCool
13:08:56 <McCool> guests: Georg
13:09:22 <McCool> ml: one of the last activities was carrying forward uc and reqs into a new document
13:09:42 <McCool> ... ucs are now in a use cases document
13:09:54 <kaz> present+ Georg_Schneider
13:09:58 <kaz> present- Georg
13:09:59 <McCool> ... last update of which was dec 10
13:10:05 <kaz> zakim, who is on the call?
13:10:05 <Zakim> Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Georg_Schneider
13:11:11 <kaz> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_UseCase_WebConf#Agenda_12.1.
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13:11:57 <kaz> present+ Herve_Pruvost
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13:14:54 <Georg_Schneider> Hi everyone!
13:15:06 <cperey> present+ cperey = Christine Perey
13:15:45 <Georg_Schneider> Linked Building Data Community Group -> https://www.w3.org/community/lbd/
13:16:21 <kaz> gusts: Gorge, Herve and Christine
13:16:42 <kaz> s/Gorge/Georg/
13:17:23 <McCool> cp: intro, work in AR, enterprise and industrial use cases
13:17:34 <kaz> present+ Jack_Dickinson
13:17:47 <McCool> ... are some AR use cases that have been proposed, would like to improve, give feedback on others
13:17:53 <McCool> ... including discovery
13:18:05 <McCool> ml: appreciate the input
13:18:44 <McCool> topic: minute review
13:18:54 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2020/12/08-wot-uc-minutes.html Dec-8
13:19:02 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
13:19:08 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:19:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/12-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz
13:19:18 <McCool> ml: moved over documents to new use cases repository
13:19:26 <mlagally> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases
13:19:32 <McCool> ... both use case and requirements
13:20:45 <McCool> ... also looked at some particular use cases and merged some PRs, reviewed issues, etc.
13:20:59 <kaz> i/one of the last/topic: preliminary/
13:21:01 <McCool> ml: have not gotten any negative input; any objections?
13:21:12 <McCool> ... hearing no objections, the minutes will be published
13:21:36 <McCool> topic: contributions to deliverables (PRs)
13:21:51 <McCool> ml: Hybridcast PR, PR #73
13:22:02 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/73 PR 73
13:22:17 <McCool> ml: added references
13:22:27 <McCool> ... modified existing use case
13:22:58 <McCool> ... note that modifications were to index.html file
13:23:41 <kaz> q_
13:23:47 <kaz> s/q_//
13:23:48 <kaz> q+
13:23:54 <McCool> ml: ideally from now on new use cases should go into index.html
13:24:17 <McCool> g: what is process?   Fork, create branch and PR?
13:24:35 <McCool> ml: yes; there is also a template, but it is currently in MD only
13:24:56 <McCool> ml: can we get a volunteer to create an html template?
13:25:06 <McCool> kaz: we can just use the conversion script
13:25:35 <McCool> ml: kaz, can you please do that, then?
13:25:35 <kaz> action: kaz to generate an HTML version template for use cases
13:25:39 <McCool> kaz: yes, will do
13:26:22 <McCool> ml: structure is very simple; good to look at existing use cases
13:26:53 <McCool> ml: use cases are more complete than requirements at this point
13:27:05 <McCool> ml: much of the content for requirements is still in MD
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13:29:36 <McCool> ml: think in general it is better to work directly on the index.html and not on separate fragments
13:30:23 <McCool> mm: should update readmes to steer people away from editing the MD files
13:30:50 <McCool> cp: would like some assistance on getting up to speed; maybe a sidebar meeting?
13:31:53 <McCool> mm: cp, we can schedule a 1:1, but it would have to be next week
13:32:13 <McCool> ml: I can also help, in same time zone
13:32:24 <McCool> ml: let's go back to the PR we were looking at
13:32:31 <McCool> ... PR 73
13:32:50 <McCool> ... just adding references to an existing use case; trivial, propose merging
13:32:54 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/73 PR 73
13:33:00 <McCool> ml: (merges PR73)
13:33:17 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/38 PR 38
13:33:23 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:33:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/12-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz
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13:34:14 <kaz> s/contributions to deliverables (PRs)/PR 73/
13:34:20 <kaz> i/PR 38/topic: PR 38/
13:34:22 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:34:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/12-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz
13:35:48 <McCool> ml: is this ready to merge?
13:36:03 <kaz> present+ Jennifer_Lin
13:36:18 <McCool> mm: there were a few comments that were not updated in the PR, but I suggest we merge now and deal with those when we do the PR to convert to HTML
13:36:33 <McCool> ml: ok
13:37:10 <McCool> ml: will create an issue, summarize the required changes
13:37:20 <McCool> ... unfortunately jennifer has left the meeting
13:37:42 <McCool> mm: let's create the issue, Jennifer can comment on it and we can send her and email about it
13:38:12 <McCool> ml: (merges PR38)
13:39:23 <McCool> jl: back; I have some news I would like to share
13:40:58 <kaz> present+ Michael_Koster
13:42:54 <kaz> present- Jennifer_Lin
13:43:18 <kaz> s/jl: back; I have some news I would like to share//
13:43:23 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:43:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/12-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz
13:44:52 <McCool> ml: issue 85 will deal with the conversion of the dashboard uc to html and incorporation of the updates
13:45:18 <McCool> topics: publication roadmap
13:46:12 <McCool> ml: we have many outstanding issues; but want to get a solid draft by March
13:46:24 <McCool> ... to give us time to review, so we can do a Note in May
13:46:45 <kaz> i|issue 85|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/85 Issue 85|
13:49:22 <kaz> q+
13:51:00 <McCool> ml: think we need a longer conversion about AR; assigning her to issue 83 is too soon
13:52:49 <McCool> ml: my first take is that the issue has a lot of detail that could go directly into the template
13:54:18 <McCool> cp: I do think that the contributions need some improvement, and a bit narrow
13:54:57 <McCool> mm: I propose that you state your concerns and input on the issue; normally we want to do a PR only after reaching convergence
13:55:20 <McCool> kaz: we should ensure that we are neutral in particular, about other standards
13:56:30 <McCool> ml: we also have a lot of issues without owners, several of which are important
13:56:48 <McCool> ... but we may be able to close some of them
13:56:48 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+no%3Aassignee issues without owners
13:57:08 <kaz> i/we also/topic: issues without owners
13:59:54 <McCool> ml: although I think the healthcare ucs have been covered now so we can probably retire that issue
14:00:33 <McCool> mm: public health vs. private; I see we have pandemic monitoring, ICU, and health notifiers
14:00:41 <McCool> ... I would agree with closing the issue then
14:01:08 <McCool> ml: ok, will close issue 16
14:01:25 <Georg_Schneider> Thank you for the opportunity to join today. I am looking forward in contributing building related use cases in the upcoming calls and discuss them with you. Georg
14:02:39 <McCool> mm: just noticed there are some duplicates, eg for timeseries
14:02:53 <McCool> mm: also cross-referencing can be done in a final pass
14:03:02 <McCool> ml: ok, will see if I can do some cleanup
14:03:24 <McCool> ml: out of time, propose adjourning; next week will look at ITU-T use cases; please review
14:04:18 <kaz> [adjourned]
14:04:22 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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