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15:02:32 <kaz> Meeting: WoT Discovery
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15:03:15 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Andrea_Cimmino, Farshid_Tavakolizadeh, Jack_Dickinson, Kunihiko_Toumura
15:03:29 <kaz> scribenick: FarshidT
15:04:22 <kaz> topic: Prev minutes
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15:05:32 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2021/01/04-wot-discovery-minutes.html Jan-4
15:05:53 <FarshidT> topic: minutes
15:06:50 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima, Cristiano_Aguzzi
15:07:07 <kaz> approved
15:07:09 <FarshidT> no objections to publishing the minutes
15:07:22 <kaz> topic: Issues and PRs
15:07:39 <kaz> topic: PR 108
15:07:44 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/108 PR 108
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15:09:10 <kaz> kaz: objections to merge this?
15:09:12 <kaz> (none)
15:09:18 <kaz> (merged)
15:09:29 <cperey> Looking for WebEx link
15:13:38 <kaz> topic: joint call with the Spatial Data on the Web
15:14:49 <kaz> kaz: joint call with the SDW-IG next Monday, Jan 19
15:14:54 <kaz> ... during the Discovery call
15:15:02 <cperey> Sorry... I can clarify
15:15:08 <cperey> next Monday is Jan 18
15:15:20 <cperey> the meeting about AR is on Tuesday Jan 19
15:15:31 <cperey> Sorry...
15:15:33 <cperey> Yes
15:15:44 <kaz> s/19/18/
15:15:55 <cperey> How do I send a message to [wot-discovery] list?
15:16:15 <FarshidT> topic: PR 1-7
15:16:24 <FarshidT> s/1-7/107/
15:16:29 <FarshidT> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/107
15:19:07 <FarshidT> kaz: will wait for McCool to address Andrea's concern
15:20:17 <kaz> topic: Issue 98
15:20:41 <FarshidT> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/98
15:21:09 <kaz> (Kaz confirmed Christine is aware of the PP)
15:23:50 <kaz> zakim, who is on the call?
15:23:50 <Zakim> Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Andrea_Cimmino, Farshid_Tavakolizadeh, Jack_Dickinson, Kunihiko_Toumura, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Cristiano_Aguzzi
15:23:57 <FarshidT> ft: we suppose to confirm which proposal is more preferable
15:25:21 <FarshidT> ft: some people have already voted
15:25:22 <kaz> present+ Christian_Glomb, Jack_Dickinson, Michael_Koster, Christine_Perey
15:25:33 <kaz> zakim, who is on the call?
15:25:33 <Zakim> Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Andrea_Cimmino, Farshid_Tavakolizadeh, Jack_Dickinson, Kunihiko_Toumura, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Christian_Glomb, Michael_Koster,
15:25:36 <Zakim> ... Christine_Perey
15:25:39 <FarshidT> ca: what information will be included? Will it be standardized?
15:26:59 <FarshidT> ft: it will be just registration data. We can decide later if this will be mandatory.
15:32:14 <FarshidT> ac: can we extend the model to include metadata for filtering items?
15:32:38 <FarshidT> ft: we have the type for "Directory" but not yet added to TD context. See https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/54
15:35:40 <FarshidT> ca: it may be better to define a separate context for TDD instead of adding the class or other vocab to TD's context
15:37:28 <kaz> kaz: Farshid, can you generate a PR for this?
15:37:58 <kaz> Farshid: would like to think about Issue 34 on links as well
15:38:08 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/34 Issue 34
15:38:48 <kaz> i/34/topic: Issue 34/
15:41:08 <FarshidT> ft: need to pick an appropriate relation type
15:41:30 <kaz> ft: e.g., describdby from https://www.iana.org/assignments/link-relations/link-relations.xhtml
15:41:43 <FarshidT> mk: we could pick a registered type, e.g., describedBy
15:43:15 <FarshidT> mk: i think there is a type for collections which may be a good option
15:46:03 <FarshidT> kaz: if we define this, we need to make sure other processors understand it
15:50:24 <FarshidT> ft: will create a PR including the link and TD models inside TDD. Will use describedby relation type instead of furtherExploration as it is registered.
15:50:39 <cris_> +1 for Koster's proposal. collection rel type fits well in my opinion
15:51:51 <FarshidT> mk: allowing multiple relation types is a good idea and very useful in directories. It also relieves us from the burden of trying to choose one.
15:52:01 <FarshidT> kaz: I agree.
15:53:49 <FarshidT> kaz: we can go with describedby and then look into alternatives such as "collection" and "item".
15:54:13 <kaz> s/"item"./"item" based on some concrete use case and flow./
15:55:03 <FarshidT> mk: describedby is intended for pointing to another resource, describing a resource through certain mean. It could even be pointing to some openapi spec.
15:56:26 <FarshidT> ft: we can combine it with the content type to specify how the resource is described.
15:57:37 <kaz> topic: Issue 104
15:57:40 <FarshidT> mk: I agree, the generic describedby relation type can be used appropriately in different use cases.
15:57:51 <kaz> s/topic: Issue 104//
15:57:53 <kaz> topic: Issue 104
15:57:56 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/104 Issue 104
15:59:14 <FarshidT> ac: we don't have an appropriate framing document. Have reached out to Sebastian and he is looking into it.
16:00:14 <FarshidT> ca: have you tried to implement anything to address framing?
16:00:20 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/104 Andrea's updated comments
16:01:12 <FarshidT> ac: i am experimenting. I have tried a JSON-LD 1.1 library and got some input from the maintainers of that library.
16:02:06 <FarshidT> ac: the problem is not the conversion, but the lack of the frame to do it.
16:02:49 <kaz> kaz: maybe talking with the DID-WG guys would be helpful
16:03:16 <kaz> s/helpful/helpful given the JSON-LD WG is in a maintenance mode./
16:04:10 <kaz> kaz: let's continue the discussion during the next Discovery call and also possibly during the TD call.
16:04:13 <kaz> [adjourned]
16:04:17 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
16:04:21 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:04:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/11-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
16:06:26 <kaz> i/Prev minutes/scribenick: kaz/
16:06:28 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:06:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/11-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
16:07:08 <kaz> i/no objections/scribenick: FarshidT/
16:07:09 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:07:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/11-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
16:07:24 <kaz> s/topic: Issues and PRs//
16:07:25 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:07:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/11-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
16:07:53 <kaz> i/topic: PR 108/scribenick: kaz/
16:07:54 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:07:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/11-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
16:08:52 <kaz> s/Monday, Jan 19/Monday, Jan 18/
16:08:53 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:08:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/11-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
16:09:23 <kaz> i/topic: PR 107/scribenick: FarshidT/
16:09:24 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:09:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/11-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
16:09:59 <kaz> i/Farshid, can you gen/scribenick: kaz/
16:10:17 <kaz> i/topic: Issue 34/scribenick: FarshidT/
16:10:19 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:10:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/11-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
16:11:52 <kaz> i/maybe talking/scribenick: kaz/
16:11:54 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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