IRC log of pronunciation on 2021-01-06

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Meeting: Spoken Pronunciation Task Force Teleconference
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Date: 06 January 2021
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zakim, agenda?
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I see nothing on the agenda
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Agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
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Agenda+ APA charter
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Agenda+ Updates on Call with PCG
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Agenda+ Other Business
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zakim, agenda?
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I see 4 items remaining on the agenda:
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1. Agenda Review & Announcements [from Irfan]
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2. APA charter [from Irfan]
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3. Updates on Call with PCG [from Irfan]
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4. Other Business [from Irfan]
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present+
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Chair: Irfan & Paul
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/06-pronunciation-minutes.html Irfan
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present+
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present+
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present+
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scribe: Irfan
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present+
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zakim, next item
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agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from Irfan]
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Hi all, Zoom is not working so well. Will try again.
15:09:44 [Irfan]
janina: we may need to give some specific to ARIA working group for SR specification. perhaps a joined meeting with ARIA working group.
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janina: will find the specific documents
15:10:13 [Roy]
https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2021/charter.html
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agendum 2 -- APA charter -- taken up [from Irfan]
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janina: what are we going to do by 2024 end if summer. we have been granted charter as a w3c working group. APA asks this task force about deliverables. we have normative pronunciation document.
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janina: we may have authoring guide document.
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janina: we thought we were done with webRTC documents but then we found some more use cases demanding more research and work.
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paul_grenier: when we have CR document ready, do we go to personalization tf?
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Q+
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janina: you can do it in a CR document to link it to CR or PR
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JF: not sure if PR still a think
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ack j
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JF: I was trying to understand linking personalization. we are working towards common goals and dont see any overlap between the two. if you see any, would like to know.
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paul_grenier: I am not suer familiar with the group. I just brought up a use case that something personalization can handle. I could be mis-remember something.
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JF: we spent lot of time supporting alternate rendering.
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janina: when we have our specification mature, we can ask various vendor to support the technical specification
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JF: perhaps we can have AA kind of success criteria in WCAG which will encourage users to do this.
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Mhakkinen: 3.1.6 Pronunciation: A mechanism is available for identifying specific pronunciation of words where meaning of the words, in context, is ambiguous without knowing the pronunciation. (Level AAA)
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JF: we can advocate it to AA from AAA which seems more realistic
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JF: over the life of next charter period, we think we have got a robust solution and we need to take it to the next level.
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JF: that includes demos, blog post, outreach programs
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NeilS: we need to find the implementation
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JF: another way to reach-out to vendors and ask them to implement it
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JF: there are 3 or 4 kind of nature player, if we can get one or more of them, (I know someone at samsung) telling them that they have ability to customizing the names using our technology. those are kind of activities we should be thinking about going forward, how can we spread it organically.
15:28:27 [JF]
Idea: author a new technique for this: https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG21/quickref/?showtechniques=316#pronunciation
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janina: there is a draft charter and template about describing presentation of the deliverables. we can take first crack using the template and then Roy or Michael can fix it.
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janina: we would like our CFC in few weeks.
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JF: within the next two weeks
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janina: we should have our draft document ready within two weeks following templates.
15:29:50 [Roy]
https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2021/charter.html
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action: Irfan to create a document using the template for first draft
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Created ACTION-19 - Create a document using the template for first draft [on Irfan Ali - due 2021-01-13].
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JF: do we want to put a submission in virtual CSUN?
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mhakkinen: we have nothing for virtual CSUN. are they still excepting any more submission?
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JF: deadline was October
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JF: we should be looking for socializing at CSUN to spread the words.
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mhakkinen: perhaps we can check other conferences. need to be little creative and take a look
15:34:32 [Irfan]
there was a speechtech conference. we can take a look on this
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action: JF to check the venues to spread the words about pronunciation work
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Created ACTION-20 - Check the venues to spread the words about pronunciation work [on John Foliot - due 2021-01-13].
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zakim, next item
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agendum 3 -- Updates on Call with PCG -- taken up [from Irfan]
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paul_grenier: met with publishing group. most of them have not heard about work but they are interested in following up closely. very possible that we will find additional implementation form that group.
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mhakkinen: we need to touch abse with eReader. they don't have any support of pronunciation like ePub
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paul_grenier: guidance will be there. we can help them build out some examples and test their implementation. Neil can help in some math examples.
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zakim, next item
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agendum 4 -- Other Business -- taken up [from Irfan]
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zakim, close item 4
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agendum 4, Other Business, closed
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I see nothing remaining on the agenda
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