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23:33:54 <wendyreid> zakim, start meeting
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23:33:55 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), wendyreid
23:36:23 <wendyreid> topic: Meeting Agenda 2020-09-17 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-epub-wg/2020Sep/0001.html
23:36:40 <wendyreid> Chair: wendyreid, shinyatakami
23:36:53 <wendyreid> Date: 2020-09-17
23:37:01 <wendyreid> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-epub-wg/2020Sep/0001.html
23:37:18 <wendyreid> Meeting: EPUB3 Working Group Telco
23:37:29 <wendyreid> present+
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00:03:48 <duga> scribenick: duga
00:04:21 <duga> wendyreid: Let's start!
00:05:09 <duga> Shinya: Why we are here - make epub 3 a standard
00:06:01 <duga> ... this is the first Japan friendly time meeting, we will alternate times
00:06:26 <duga> ... [Japanese]
00:06:48 <duga> ... [More Japanese]
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00:07:56 <mgarrish> present+
00:08:26 <duga> s/Shinya/shiestyle/
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00:09:14 <duga> wendyreid: Roadmap: goal is publish and produce a new epub revision
00:09:31 <duga> ... Currently epub 3.3, may change
00:09:43 <duga> ... Also want to deliver a complete end to end test suite for epub
00:09:58 <duga> ... We don't have that now, and it is a requirement for w3c
00:10:07 <duga> ... That will be a lot of work
00:10:33 <duga> ... As we write the tests we will revise the spec to clarify or fix discovered issues
00:10:49 <duga> ... Also doing an update to the a11y spec
00:11:10 <duga> ... By 2025 all books published in Europe must be accesible
00:11:30 <duga> ... Need to focus on fixed layout content that is not accessible now
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00:11:53 <Daihei> present+
00:12:04 <duga> ... Also may look at html5, CSS 3, etc
00:12:16 <duga> ... Want to keep everyone happy
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00:12:50 <duga> ... At the end of the charter (2.5 years) hope to make epub 3 a full rec
00:13:13 <duga> ... Will need to publish a first public working draft, will happen in the next few weeks
00:13:27 <duga> ... Basically the current spec with some cleanup
00:13:41 <duga> ... By CR we need the tests
00:14:21 <duga> shiestyle: [Translation from Canadian to Japanese]
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00:16:51 <duga> ... thanks you
00:17:18 <duga> wendyreid: Process - two calls
00:17:40 <duga> ... a NA/Europe call (late night in Japan)
00:18:10 <duga> ... Another morning Japan/evening NA
00:18:37 <duga> ... for the meetings that are at a terrible time where you are there is no need to attend
00:18:53 <duga> ... We two mailing lists, private and public
00:19:11 <duga> ... private is used for things like sharing our zoom link
00:19:37 <duga> ... Most work will actually be done on github
00:19:56 <duga> ... You will need an account, so get one if you don't have one
00:20:15 <duga> ... You can link your github to w3c account on your profile page - please do that
00:20:17 <wendyreid> https://github.com/w3c/epub-wg
00:20:22 <wendyreid> https://github.com/w3c/publ-epub-revision
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00:20:51 <duga> ... Two links posted. epub-wg is for admin and planning.
00:21:03 <duga> ... the second one is for the documents
00:21:29 <duga> ... Any epub issues will go in publ-epub-revision
00:21:39 <duga> ... This is the same repo as we used for the CG
00:22:04 <duga> shiestyle: [More translation to Japanese]
00:22:23 <duga> ... explaining github stuff
00:22:38 <wendyreid> q?
00:23:32 <wendyreid> https://www.w3.org/Consortium/cepc/
00:23:37 <duga> wendyreid: IRC - send your nickname to Ivan so he can match them to real names for the minutes
00:24:28 <duga> ... CEPC is our code of conduct. Read it, learn it, know it! All meetings are covered there, in person and remote, as well as github comms
00:25:32 <duga> ... Scribes. They are awesome. We will have a rotation list, please contact Wendy to be added to the list. It is a lot of fun
00:26:17 <duga> ... Decision process: we will need to decide things
00:26:44 <duga> ... A proposal will be put in the IRC channel, we vote with +1/0/-1
00:27:27 <duga> ... We will wait a week before finally deciding to give people in other timezones a chance to vote/comment
00:27:53 <duga> ... You can respond via email or in the next meeting if you want to record a vote
00:28:06 <duga> shiestyle: [Translating about process]
00:29:16 <duga> Daihei: Please explain how to ask questions, etc
00:29:33 <Daihei> q+
00:29:40 <duga> wendyreid: Use q+ in IRC. q- removes you.
00:29:52 <duga> ... Make sure to "present+" when you enter the meeting
00:29:54 <wendyreid> ack Daihei
00:30:11 <duga> Daihei: Want to give an example
00:30:18 <duga> ... Showing off q+
00:30:41 <duga> ... [Japanese] q+ [more Japanese]
00:31:08 <tzviya> q+ to mention a few more irc commands
00:31:14 <wendyreid> ack tzviya
00:31:14 <Zakim> tzviya, you wanted to mention a few more irc commands
00:31:24 <duga> tzviya: More IRC coolnesses
00:31:58 <duga> ... type "/me xyz" to send a comment that will not go to the minutes
00:33:14 <duga> ... You can add stuff after q+ to remind you off why you went on the queue
00:33:18 <Daihei> q+
00:33:37 <duga> wendyreid: There are newbie docs that discuss IRC basics
00:33:45 <wendyreid> https://www.w3.org/publishing/groups/epub-wg/WorkMode/newbie
00:33:55 <Daihei> q-
00:34:33 <duga> ... github is the best place to discuss things
00:34:39 <Daihei> The link that Wendy provided is what I wanted to ask.
00:34:45 <duga> ... don't wait for meetings, post to github
00:35:55 <duga> ... English is the operating language of the group, but if you want to post technical comments in your own language that is fine, Wendy will get them translated
00:36:30 <duga> ... Introductions, no need to scribe
00:51:55 <duga> wendyreid: Thank you everyone!
00:52:20 <duga> ... Versioning was discussed in the last meeting, starting at 3.3, that could change
00:52:58 <duga> ... As mentioned, decisions will take a week so everyone can participate
00:53:15 <duga> ... Questions?
00:53:47 <duga> ... Next agenda with better dates next Wednesday
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00:57:21 <wendyreid> rrsagent, draft minutes
00:57:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2020/09/17-epub-minutes.html wendyreid
00:57:30 <wendyreid> rrsagent, make logs public
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00:58:34 <wendyreid> zakim, end meeting
00:58:34 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been wendyreid, toshiakikoike, Yanni, shiestyle, tzviya, duga, MasakazuKitahara, mgarrish, zhengxu, jyoshii, Daihei
00:58:37 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
00:58:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2020/09/17-epub-minutes.html Zakim
00:58:39 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, wendyreid; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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00:58:47 <wendyreid> rrsagent, goodbye
00:58:47 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'goodbye', wendyreid.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
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