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15:17:26 <Zakim> RRSAgent, make logs Public
15:17:27 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), ivan
15:17:36 <ivan> ivan has changed the topic to: Meeting Agenda 2020-09-14: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-publ-wg/2020Sep/0002.html
15:17:37 <ivan> Chair: wendy
15:17:37 <ivan> Date: 2020-09-14
15:17:37 <ivan> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-publ-wg/2020Sep/0002.html
15:17:37 <ivan> Meeting: Publishing Working Group Telco
15:17:37 <ivan> Regrets+ billk, tzviya
15:22:08 <ivan> regrets+ george
15:44:11 <ivan> regrets+ lars
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16:02:18 <ivan> scribe+ gpellegrino
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16:04:37 <wendyreid> https://www.w3.org/publishing/groups/publ-wg/Meetings/Minutes/2020/2020-08-24-pwg
16:04:42 <gpellegrino> wendyreid: Hi everyone! We are getting close to the end of the charter, this is one of the last call
16:04:50 <gpellegrino> ... minutes approved!
16:05:13 <gpellegrino> ... join the EPUB3 WG!
16:06:15 <mgarrish> present+
16:06:35 <gpellegrino> ... we have to talk about last things before sending the docs
16:06:48 <gpellegrino> ... we are resolving some issue that became during testing
16:07:36 <gpellegrino> mgarrish: mostly there where issue with the TOC
16:07:42 <gpellegrino> ... and the primary entry page
16:07:56 <gpellegrino> (can you post the issue URLs in IRC)?
16:08:33 <gpellegrino> ... the linking method required for the primary entry page, and also if it was required (it depends on the format)
16:09:11 <gpellegrino> ... there was also a mismatching between the processing algorithm and the TOC specs
16:09:11 <ivan> q+
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16:09:52 <gpellegrino> garth: in the current spec we will get: TOC is not required
16:10:59 <gpellegrino> * quite difficult to scribe :( *
16:12:20 <gpellegrino> garth: if you have one it needs to be <nav role="doc-toc">
16:12:29 <garth> q?
16:12:31 <wendyreid> ack ivan
16:12:33 <garth> q+
16:13:11 <gpellegrino> ivan: the fact that we removed the requirement, it means we have to pickup one of the tests from the test suite
16:13:27 <gpellegrino> ... it is in the index page
16:13:28 <laurent> q+
16:14:01 <gpellegrino> laurent: doing that you can close issue #65
16:14:07 <wendyreid> ack garth
16:14:19 <laurent> ack laurent
16:14:51 <gpellegrino> garth: we think it's likely people will read this and will do it the right way
16:15:03 <mgarrish> q+
16:15:06 <Avneesh> q+
16:15:07 <gpellegrino> ivan: the TOC discussion was the most long and passionate we had
16:15:09 <laurent> q+
16:15:13 <gpellegrino> ... we got a compromise
16:15:42 <wendyreid> ack mgarrish
16:16:09 <gpellegrino> mgarrish: could we point a note there?
16:16:21 <wendyreid> ack Avneesh
16:16:22 <gpellegrino> wendyreid: regular or editor's note?
16:16:29 <Avneesh> q-
16:16:30 <gpellegrino> ivan: regular note
16:16:35 <wendyreid> action: wendyreid to add note to audiobooks
16:16:38 <wendyreid> ack laurent
16:17:02 <gpellegrino> laurent: it is good to have a note now, but as a maintenance issue I think to manage it correctly
16:17:03 <ivan> q+
16:17:29 <wendyreid> ack ivan
16:17:30 <laurent> s/I think/I think we have/
16:18:39 <gpellegrino> ivan: in theory the new version of the W3C process will become live tomorrow, so when this document will become a rec, we can made some modifications, without having to come back to the beginning
16:19:03 <gpellegrino> ... the idea is something like a "live-reccomendation"
16:19:27 <gpellegrino> ... we have to vote for this type of reccomendation
16:20:38 <wendyreid> PROPOSED: Request the Director to move Publication Manifest and Audiobooks to Proposed Recommendation
16:20:40 <mgarrish> +1
16:20:43 <ivan> +1
16:20:43 <gpellegrino> +1
16:20:50 <wendyreid> +1
16:20:50 <laurent> +1
16:20:51 <Avneesh> +1
16:20:52 <juliette_mcshane> +0
16:20:56 <wendyreid> tzviya: +1
16:20:58 <garth> +1
16:20:59 <BenSchroeter> +1
16:21:04 <duga> +1
16:21:40 <wendyreid> RESOLVED: Request the Director to move Publication Manifest and Audiobooks to Proposed Recommendation
16:23:36 <wendyreid> PROPOSED: Request the Director allow Publication Manifest and Audiobooks to be continuously developed as part of the the maintenance working group per Process 2020
16:23:37 <Avneesh> q+
16:23:41 <mgarrish> +1
16:23:47 <BenSchroeter> +1
16:23:49 <juliette_mcshane> +1
16:24:07 <Teenya> +1
16:24:13 <gpellegrino> Avneesh: Ivan there are two type of continiuos process in process 2020
16:25:04 <wendyreid> PROPOSED: Request the Director allow Publication Manifest and Audiobooks to be continuously developed as part of the the maintenance working group per Process 2020 after achieving Recommendation Status
16:25:09 <ivan> +1
16:25:11 <BenSchroeter> +1
16:25:20 <garth> +1
16:25:21 <gpellegrino> +1
16:25:23 <Avneesh> +1
16:25:26 <wendyreid> +1
16:25:31 <laurent> +1
16:25:35 <juliette_mcshane> +1
16:25:49 <wendyreid> RESOLVED: Request the Director allow Publication Manifest and Audiobooks to be continuously developed as part of the the maintenance working group per Process 2020 after achieving Recommendation Status
16:26:12 <gpellegrino> ivan: now on the practical stuff, I wait for a green light from Matt to start the process
16:26:45 <gpellegrino> ... when we start the process, we can't edit the specs
16:27:16 <gpellegrino> ... I hope the guy who made all the comments has finished with his work :)
16:27:54 <gpellegrino> wendyreid: I think it something from Laurent's team
16:28:12 <gpellegrino> laurent: Yes! It is Pierre
16:28:31 <gpellegrino> ivan: His work was great, but I hope he has finished
16:28:43 <gpellegrino> laurent: Yep, he has done
16:29:27 <gpellegrino> ivan: once the PR has gone, your company rep has to vote
16:29:35 <laurent> s/something/somebody
16:30:11 <gpellegrino> wendyreid: thank you to all
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16:31:04 <ivan> zakim, end meeting
16:31:04 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been ivan, avneesh, gregorio, gpellegrino, juliette, BenSchroeter, laurent, charles, CharlesL, brady, juliette_mcshane, duga, Garth, teenya,
16:31:07 <Zakim> ... mgarrish
16:31:07 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:31:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2020/09/14-pwg-minutes.html Zakim
16:31:09 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, ivan; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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16:32:01 <ivan> rrsagent, bye
16:32:01 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in https://www.w3.org/2020/09/14-pwg-actions.rdf :
16:32:01 <RRSAgent> ACTION: wendyreid to add note to audiobooks [1]
16:32:01 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2020/09/14-pwg-irc#T16-16-35