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15:14:28 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), ivan
15:14:46 <ivan> ivan has changed the topic to: Meeting Agenda 2020-07-27: https://www.w3.org/mid/AC3DD8B7-852A-4861-872B-CF6227B8E496@rakuten.com
15:14:47 <ivan> Chair: wendy
15:14:47 <ivan> Date: 2020-07-27
15:14:47 <ivan> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/mid/AC3DD8B7-852A-4861-872B-CF6227B8E496@rakuten.com
15:34:46 <ivan> regrets+ laurent
15:40:02 <wendyreid> chair: Garth
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15:58:48 <gpellegrino> present+
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16:04:26 <garth> https://www.w3.org/publishing/groups/publ-wg/Meetings/Minutes/2020/2020-06-29-pwg
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16:04:54 <wendyreid> scribe+
16:05:09 <wendyreid> garth: Minutes from last meeting
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16:05:17 <wendyreid> ... any objections?
16:05:22 <marisa> present+
16:05:26 <wendyreid> ... 3 2 1 approved!
16:05:30 <wendyreid> ... a few testing updates
16:05:39 <ivan> Topic: testing updated
16:05:43 <tzviya> present+
16:05:57 <wendyreid> ... Google Play books are rolling out the inital implementation of audiobooks to production this week
16:06:27 <ivan> present+ simon_collinson
16:06:37 <wendyreid> ... it's not perfect, but we can find everything, the only major issue is finding the reading order from the TOC instead of the manifest
16:06:46 <ivan> present+ marisa
16:06:46 <ivan> present+ brady
16:06:56 <wendyreid> ... the sample audiobooks are all processable
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16:07:05 <ivan> present+ matt
16:07:06 <duga> present+
16:07:06 <wendyreid> ... progress!
16:07:18 <wendyreid> ... for Ivan, is there a formal thing?
16:07:25 <wendyreid> ivan: There is a series of tests you have to do locally
16:07:34 <wendyreid> ... all kinds of crazy manifests that do various things
16:07:45 <wendyreid> ... you should react accordingly to the tests
16:07:52 <dauwhe> present+
16:07:53 <wendyreid> ... you return a JSON file with the results
16:08:07 <wendyreid> garth: Offline, I will work with you on how to run these!
16:08:26 <wendyreid> ... we're probably not looking for problems, only what we can support
16:08:32 <wendyreid> ivan: Wendy or I will send the pointers
16:08:39 <wendyreid> [wendy will]
16:08:56 <wendyreid> garth: We got an email from Laurent in regards to Thorium
16:09:09 <ivan> present+ dauwhe
16:09:15 <mattg> present+
16:09:24 <wendyreid> ... they have progress but not quite ready for testing yet, no embedded manifests, no time frame but progress
16:09:29 <wendyreid> ... any other updates?
16:09:57 <wendyreid> ... I would like to use this opportunity to say that now that we have implementations, we need real content
16:10:16 <wendyreid> ... we have heard from some publishers, but we need more!
16:10:27 <wendyreid> ... anyone with influence, please talk to them
16:10:35 <garth> q?
16:10:45 <ivan> q+
16:10:58 <garth> ack ivan
16:11:15 <wendyreid> ivan: I am just beginning to be worried, the charter expires Nov 1
16:11:56 <wendyreid> ... the voting period for proposed is now 4 weeks again (was previously 6 weeks)
16:12:10 <wendyreid> ... we should have the PR out for voting at the end of September
16:12:19 <wendyreid> ... taking into account administration
16:12:34 <wendyreid> ... we should be getting reading for the transition in the beginning of septemver
16:12:42 <wendyreid> ... we have 1 month to get implementations in
16:12:57 <wendyreid> ... with google we have 2
16:13:06 <wendyreid> ... but to get Thorium and Kobo would be even better
16:13:20 <wendyreid> garth: What about Ivan and Matt's 2 implementations
16:13:27 <wendyreid> ivan: They're just experiments
16:13:37 <wendyreid> ... tempted to remove them, but I want to be self-critical
16:13:45 <wendyreid> ... they wouldn't be acceptable
16:13:48 <wendyreid> garth: Extra credit
16:14:10 <wendyreid> ... AOB?
16:14:29 <mattg> q+
16:14:46 <garth> q?
16:14:52 <garth> ack mattg
16:14:53 <mattg> https://github.com/w3c/pub-manifest/issues/226
16:14:55 <wendyreid> mattg: Into the AOB
16:15:00 <wendyreid> ... we have an open issue to close
16:15:13 <wendyreid> ... use a W3C URL redirect for our schemas
16:15:17 <wendyreid> ... we just need a vote
16:15:24 <wendyreid> ... we put a GH URL
16:15:32 <wendyreid> ... hopefully we all agree
16:15:41 <ivan> q+
16:15:46 <marisa> +1
16:15:49 <ivan> +1
16:15:51 <wendyreid> +1
16:15:53 <mattg> +1
16:15:53 <gpellegrino> +1
16:15:55 <garth> +1
16:15:58 <simon_collinson> +1
16:16:13 <dauwhe> +1 to w3c, -1 to github :)
16:16:26 <tzviya> q+
16:16:49 <garth> ack tzviya
16:16:51 <garth> q?
16:16:59 <wendyreid> tzviya: Just wanted to mention, Matt, Romain, and I had a call with the ARIA WG
16:17:09 <wendyreid> ... we published DPUB ARIA a lifetime ago
16:17:21 <wendyreid> ... we'll be doing a minor update to DPUB ARIA to deprecate some roles
16:17:37 <wendyreid> ... Matt is doing the editorial work, and we'll be shifting DPUB ARIA to ARIA officially
16:17:38 <garth> q?
16:17:46 <wendyreid> ... anything we're changing was causing errors and now will not
16:17:52 <garth> ack ivan
16:18:03 <wendyreid> ivan: The vote for the EPUB3 WG ends this friday
16:18:06 <wendyreid> .. we have 38 votes
16:18:34 <wendyreid> ... out of the 38, one abstention, 1 with comments which have been addressed in a PR
16:18:47 <wendyreid> ... unless something nasty comes in this week, we are looking good
16:19:02 <wendyreid> garth: The comments were minor and easy to handle?
16:19:03 <wendyreid> ivan: Yes
16:19:04 <garth> q?
16:19:56 <garth> q?
16:20:59 <wendyreid> garth: talk to everyone soon!
16:21:09 <ivan> zakim, end meeting
16:21:09 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been gpellegrino, ivan, BenSchroeter, wendyreid, Garth, marisa, tzviya, simon_collinson, brady, matt, duga, dauwhe, mattg
16:21:12 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:21:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2020/07/27-pwg-minutes.html Zakim
16:21:14 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, ivan; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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