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19:59:35 <PWinstanley> chair: Caroline Burle
19:59:50 <PWinstanley> regrets+ Riccardo
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20:00:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2020/06/09-dxwg-minutes.html PWinstanley
20:00:21 <PWinstanley> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2020.06.09
20:00:29 <PWinstanley> meeting: DXWG Plenary
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20:05:27 <Caroline_> Present+
20:05:28 <AndreaPerego> trackbot, start meeting
20:05:28 <annette_g> present+
20:05:30 <PWinstanley> present+
20:05:30 <Caroline_> Chair: Caroline_
20:05:30 <kcoyle> present+
20:05:31 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
20:05:32 <ncar> present+
20:05:34 <Ana> Present+ Ana
20:05:34 <trackbot> Meeting: Dataset Exchange Working Group Teleconference
20:05:34 <trackbot> Date: 09 June 2020
20:05:34 <PWinstanley> scribe: PWinstanley
20:05:44 <AndreaPerego> present+
20:05:54 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
20:05:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2020/06/09-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego
20:05:59 <PWinstanley> topic: admin
20:06:29 <Caroline_> https://www.w3.org/2020/05/26-dxwg-minutes
20:06:41 <PWinstanley> proposed: accept minutes of 26th May
20:06:44 <AndreaPerego> +1
20:06:47 <Caroline_> +1
20:06:51 <annette_g> +1
20:06:53 <Ana> +1
20:07:00 <PWinstanley> +1
20:07:05 <kcoyle> +1
20:07:06 <ncar> +1
20:07:08 <PWinstanley> resolved: accept minutes of 26th May
20:07:24 <PWinstanley> topic: Prof
20:07:26 <AndreaPerego> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2020.06.09
20:07:30 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
20:07:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2020/06/09-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego
20:08:38 <PWinstanley> topic: ConnegP
20:09:07 <AndreaPerego> s/topic: Prof//
20:09:17 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
20:09:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2020/06/09-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego
20:09:41 <PWinstanley> ncar: No issues as we are just waiting for the expected feedback from IETF to come officially.  As mentined in earlier meetings there is a change that they want made to the way we have designed the headers style
20:10:15 <PWinstanley> ... once we get formal notification we will coordinate changes across the documents, ensure that they are aligned, and prepare the next publication.
20:10:58 <PWinstanley> ... We have been waiting for a couple of weeks.  It might help if Chairs were to ask IETF to expedite this
20:11:12 <PWinstanley> action: PWinstanley to write to IETF
20:11:13 <trackbot> Created ACTION-424 - Write to ietf [on Peter Winstanley - due 2020-06-16].
20:11:29 <Caroline_> q?
20:12:33 <PWinstanley> ncar: A news item - one of the tools that supports connegp is being put forward to facilitate vocabulary interoperability testing across a set of vocab holders
20:13:11 <PWinstanley> ... We are hoping to get this done quite soon.
20:14:52 <Caroline_> q?
20:15:12 <PWinstanley> topic: Prof
20:17:29 <PWinstanley> ncar: A small update - the 2 implementations have been updated .. the Australian Gov ontology profile (this is a basic profile to ensure that all Australian Gov ontologies are designed in roughly similar ways).  this has helped validate the types of roles that we have in the doc;
20:17:39 <Caroline_> q?
20:18:02 <ncar> The link to the Aust Gov Ont profile in development: https://github.com/AGLDWG/agop/
20:18:40 <PWinstanley> ... the second implementation is a register/catalogue of profiles created for anyone to use to register profiles not registered elsewhere
20:20:11 <PWinstanley> .  the W3id register has 6+ profiles and another 4+ will be added.  This tells us that there are ways of organising semantic web content that hasn't previously been formalised.  One is a SKOS vocab (this covers various types of pattern for creating vocabularies, but in a formally-specified way)
20:21:12 <PWinstanley> regrets+ antoine
20:21:17 <Caroline_> q?
20:21:19 <PWinstanley> q+
20:21:25 <Caroline_> ack PWinstanley
20:21:45 <PWinstanley> PWinstanley: how best to broadcast about this
20:22:37 <PWinstanley> ncar: do we record implementations, or do we send out a report for review?  It might be good to get it sent out, and it might be good to get the implementation experience reviewed
20:24:05 <PWinstanley> http://www.icegov.org/about/
20:24:20 <Caroline_> q+
20:27:56 <Caroline_> https://odsc.com/
20:28:22 <Caroline_> ack Caroline_
20:28:47 <PWinstanley> Caroline_: maybe not to get implementations, but promotion of the work through ICEGOV, ODSC, etc through global and regional conferences might be helpful to get exposure to this conneg & prof work
20:28:53 <PWinstanley> topic: dcat
20:29:05 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
20:29:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2020/06/09-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego
20:30:08 <PWinstanley> AndreaPerego: there was a small meeting (3) discussing mainly the versioning topic.  the work is still in progress.  There is currently no change.
20:30:45 <PWinstanley> https://www.w3.org/2020/06/03-dxwgdcat-minutes
20:32:31 <Caroline_> regrets+ Alejandra
20:32:34 <PWinstanley> AndreaPerego: versioning is related to communities who have different practices, so we need to consider what to do to balance the interests of different types of stakeholders.  Lifecycle is an option for focus
20:33:19 <PWinstanley> ... but because of things being community-specific getting crosswalk is difficult and providing guidance should be for beginners in the field rather than experts
20:33:45 <PWinstanley> ...  this might also be distributed between the DCAT spec and primer/s
20:33:54 <PWinstanley> q+
20:33:57 <AndreaPerego> regrets+ Antoine
20:33:58 <Caroline_> ack PWinstanley
20:34:03 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
20:34:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2020/06/09-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego
20:35:05 <AndreaPerego> q+
20:35:10 <Caroline_> ack AndreaPerego
20:35:14 <Caroline_> q+
20:35:17 <PWinstanley> PWinstanley: calling on others from different domains to contribute
20:35:30 <annette_g> q+
20:36:52 <PWinstanley> AndreaPerego: one of the points of versioning it to focus on real-world problems and purposes.  One scenario is using versioning internally as a guide to the status of a publication, but it can also inform external users to ensure that they use  the 'right' dataset or point to a specific dataset
20:37:04 <Caroline_> ack Caroline_
20:37:08 <PWinstanley> ... The last meeting was just working out possible options
20:37:10 <Caroline_> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kOp810ep3gQ2iezVXH-abX2q2QubqxNmyJ2bcX6WAFw/edit#gid=905183908
20:37:43 <PWinstanley> Caroline_: the above spreadsheet is one document that you're working on?
20:37:58 <PWinstanley> AndreaPerego: yes, and on the wiki there is a table
20:38:06 <PWinstanley> the github wiki
20:38:11 <Caroline_> ack annette_g
20:38:57 <PWinstanley> annette_g: just pointing out that with communities and where I work 'workflow' is important and it means different things to different people.
20:38:57 <AndreaPerego> Page on versioning in the GH wiki: https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/wiki/Material-for-a-SPRINT-on-Versioning
20:39:28 <AndreaPerego> q+
20:39:34 <Caroline_> ack AndreaPerego
20:39:41 <PWinstanley> ... I think for this to work for the sciences it needs to be something that is flexible so that people don't feel left out because it looks different to what they expect/use
20:40:24 <PWinstanley> AndreaPerego: what do you think would be helpful for these communities?  Are there specific steps, or do we need cross-community harmonisation?
20:42:35 <PWinstanley> annette_g: there are calls from funders to bring about more coherent about data publications.  I can talk to some people who might be able to provide guidance on what would be helpful
20:43:01 <Caroline_> q?
20:43:20 <PWinstanley> rrsagent, create minutes v2
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20:43:29 <PWinstanley> topic: open actions
20:43:49 <PWinstanley> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/open
20:44:19 <annette_g> action: annette_g to talk to some people who might be able to provide guidance on what would be helpful with respect to versioning and workflows in DCAT3.
20:44:19 <trackbot> Created ACTION-425 - Talk to some people who might be able to provide guidance on what would be helpful with respect to versioning and workflows in dcat3. [on Annette Greiner - due 2020-06-16].
20:45:39 <PWinstanley> close action 422
20:45:54 <PWinstanley> close action-422
20:45:54 <trackbot> Closed action-422.
20:46:14 <AndreaPerego> s/close action 422//
20:46:58 <PWinstanley> rrsagent, create minutes v2
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20:47:14 <Caroline_> q?
20:47:34 <PWinstanley> Caroline_: meeting closed
20:47:36 <PWinstanley> bye!
20:47:39 <AndreaPerego> Thanks and bye
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20:47:47 <Ana> bye!